Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

[Paradise]

You absolutely deal them for firsts. We're focused on 2020 & beyond. That's our window. neither is likely to be around at that point, so you move them for assets & cap space if you can.

What is interesting is due to some pleasant surprises, we can actually cobble together some attractive packages by combining cost-effective vets (Carroll, Booker) with cheap young players (Levert, RHJ, Dinwiddie). If a team decides to blow it up & rebuild, we may be able to offer an attractive package, or at worst facilitate a 3 team deal.

Why would we do that?

Dinwiddie is 23, RHJ is 22, LeVert is 23. That’s our entire core nucleus. Why would we deal them and we are the ones rebuilding?

[MrDollarBills]

You absolutely deal them for firsts. We're focused on 2020 & beyond. That's our window. neither is likely to be around at that point, so you move them for assets & cap space if you can.

What is interesting is due to some pleasant surprises, we can actually cobble together some attractive packages by combining cost-effective vets (Carroll, Booker) with cheap young players (Levert, RHJ, Dinwiddie). If a team decides to blow it up & rebuild, we may be able to offer an attractive package, or at worst facilitate a 3 team deal.

if we are focused on 2020 and beyond why would we trade LeVert, RHJ, or Dinwiddie? All three of them have serious upside and are under the age of 25.

If anything, Dinwiddie needs to be secured long term immediately. letting him hit the open market would be a fireable offense.

[kamaze]

If someone throws a 1st round pick for either Booker/DMC (or both) at the deadline should we do it?

Makes sense if you look at the bigger picture and long term rebuild POV but losing those 2 who bring so much grit, game and leadership will definitely hurt. We have great player development so having assets to acquire good young talent makes sense but the team must be balanced with some vets such as those two.

Tough one.

Id keep them DMC just came off back2back 20 point games, Booker had his 4th double double. Brooklyn is already a young team those 2 vets are good money.

[Prokorov]

If someone throws a 1st round pick for either Booker/DMC (or both) at the deadline should we do it?

Makes sense if you look at the bigger picture and long term rebuild POV but losing those 2 who bring so much grit, game and leadership will definitely hurt. We have great player development so having assets to acquire good young talent makes sense but the team must be balanced with some vets such as those two.

Tough one.

Id keep them DMC just came off back2back 20 point games, Booker had his 4th double double. Brooklyn is already a young team those 2 vets are good money.

one or the other... not both

booker is a free agent at the end of the year. if you can get a first for an expiring booker we probably wouldnt be able to resign anyhow you do it

DMC is under contract, but moving his money makes our cap situation alot easier and then maybe we can bring back booker

we need one as a vet presense

[kamaze]

Forget the cap on the floor and in the locker room the two are good.

[Prokorov]

Forget the cap on the floor and in the locker room the two are good.

forget the cap is how you end up as a perennial 30 win team

[kamaze]

Forget the cap on the floor and in the locker room the two are good.

forget the cap is how you end up as a perennial 30 win team

Don't know why you're talking about the cap Brooklyn is doing fine in that department. The only player they need to bring back is Booker DMC is under contract next year I believe.

[kamaze]

Forget the cap on the floor and in the locker room the two are good.

forget the cap is how you end up as a perennial 30 win team

Don't know why you're talking about the cap Brooklyn is doing fine in that department. The only player they need to bring back is Booker DMC is under contract next year I believe.

Nets are 24th in salaries this year and the only player they have to bring back is Booker. I'd like them to bring Joe Harris back too but that's up to Marks.

DMC makes $15 million next year.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

I’d definitely trade high on Dinwiddie and Carroll. I wouldn’t trade Dinwiddie for any old 1st but I’d include him in a deal for a young prospect with star potential. Jabari Parker anybody?

[kamaze]

They found Dinwiddie and he became a good player Herr why would you want to trade him? Hes on a bargain contract too.

Jabari is banged up Id stay away from him.

[Ror1997]

What's with the Jabari Parker hard on this board has? Lol

[MrDollarBills]

Dude i was about the same thing lol. Every other month someone wants to trade for Jabari Parker, as if the dude doesn't have messed up knees. I don't get the infatuation

I'm not trading a 12 and 6 PG who is hitting 38% of his long ball attempts for someone who tears his knees up every other year. At this point his name has more value than what he actually brings to the table

[Kilo]

What about something like Stanley Johnson and Jon Leuer for DeMarre Carroll?

[DeRoma]

Phoenix has some talented players that aren't being developed. I think we can get some diamonds in the rough in their roster.

[Prokorov]

Forget the cap on the floor and in the locker room the two are good.

forget the cap is how you end up as a perennial 30 win team

Don't know why you're talking about the cap Brooklyn is doing fine in that department. The only player they need to bring back is Booker DMC is under contract next year I believe.

Our cap is actually REALLY tight, as i pointed out in the salary cap thread.

We have 16.6 million in cap room.... and that is BEFORE we:

-sign booker like you want
-sign dinwiddie who will command considerbly more then the 1.5 he is making now
-Extend Russell
-Extend RHJ



Lets say we bring back booker on a team friendly deal. lets say he takes a paycut even. 3/24.

that leaves us at : 9 million

lets say dinwiddie also takes a team friendly deal. call it 3/27.

that leavues us at: 1.5 million

Do you want to bring back joe harris? if you do thats puts us over the cap... even if he comes dirt cheap at say 4/16.

Then if we extend russell or RHJ that puts us well over the cap. extending both might put us in the tax.

Even if lin opts out, and dinwidde basically just takes his salary, we are still right at the cap or over the cap depending on what we do with RHJ or Russell.

We dont have all this cap space like the last 2 offseasons. Crabbe/Carroll/Mozgov ate into all of that money and RHJ/Russell will need extensions unless you want them to become restricted free agents - which typically get overpaid.

[Prokorov]

forget the cap is how you end up as a perennial 30 win team

Don't know why you're talking about the cap Brooklyn is doing fine in that department. The only player they need to bring back is Booker DMC is under contract next year I believe.

Nets are 24th in salaries this year and the only player they have to bring back is Booker. I'd like them to bring Joe Harris back too but that's up to Marks.

DMC makes $15 million next year.

being 24th in salary doesnt mean much when 22 teams are over the cap.

i posted the cap numbers. if we bring all these guys back we will be over the cap. even if they all take team friendly deals

[Prokorov]

I’d definitely trade high on Dinwiddie and Carroll. I wouldn’t trade Dinwiddie for any old 1st but I’d include him in a deal for a young prospect with star potential. Jabari Parker anybody?

It really depends what they think Lin will do... we cant really afford to give dinwiddie 4/40 - 4/48 if lin doesnt opt out. if lin does opt out, then i think you have to keep dinwdide on that same contract level as lin. 10-13 million.

Otherwise, yea i think selling high n dinwddie is a good idea... although im not sure on the market given he would be a rental. bad teams could just plan to throw money at him in the offseason and good teams would need to really think he puts them over the top. if they think Lin opts in, we might be tempted to take any first we can get as cap wise having both probably doesnt work.

[Prokorov]

They found Dinwiddie and he became a good player Herr why would you want to trade him? Hes on a bargain contract too.

Jabari is banged up Id stay away from him.

Because he is a pending free agent who will cost us anywhere from 4/40 to 4/56 and that makes it a really tough decision for us especially if lin doesnt opt out.

[Curns13]

They found Dinwiddie and he became a good player Herr why would you want to trade him? Hes on a bargain contract too.

Jabari is banged up Id stay away from him.

Because he is a pending free agent who will cost us anywhere from 4/40 to 4/56 and that makes it a really tough decision for us especially if lin doesnt opt out.

I know the table above says he’s a free agent, but i’m almost positive we have him next year for under $2M as well. Says here he is:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/spencer-dinwiddie-15390/

[Aussienet3]

Can we do any sign and trades?