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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#341 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:01 pm

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The problem is, if D'Angelo Russell decides to hell with it and signs a RFA offer sheet on June 30th, the Nets are **** ed.
I thought the offer sheet couldn't be officially signed until July 7th?



I thought they moved the date up to June 30th?? i'm not sure

He can sign an offer sheet during the moratorium, but the Nets get 48hrs from the date the sheet is signed or the moratorium ends (whichever is later).
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#342 » by Rich Rane » Tue Jun 4, 2019 11:36 pm

Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.
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Post#343 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 5, 2019 12:36 am

Rich Rane wrote:Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.


i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#344 » by Rich Rane » Wed Jun 5, 2019 12:46 am

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Rich Rane wrote:Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.


i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.


Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#345 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 5, 2019 12:50 am

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Rich Rane wrote:Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.


i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.


Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.


and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#346 » by Rich Rane » Wed Jun 5, 2019 12:57 am

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i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.


Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.


and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.


Unless we cap ourselves out and just rely on MLE and minimums. I don't know, I've never been a believer on the backcourt stars winning big without a great big in the frontcourt. Just bad memories of Kidd-Carter hoping for Krstic to develop or hoping Cliff or Mikki Moore's jumper would ease their workload.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#347 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 5, 2019 1:02 am

I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward
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Post#348 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:02 am

I'm getting greedy. Trade Dinwiddie, sign Kyrie & DLo. Keep our picks, keep LeVert, keep Allen. Sign AD or another 30% max in 2020 after Crabbe, DWill & Harris come off the books.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#349 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:27 am

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Rich Rane wrote:Sigh I love D-Lo, but I'm having a hard time believing Nets go far in the playoffs with a core of him and Kyrie. If Kyrie's coming, which even after every report and rumor that's come out and I'm still not convinced, they need to swing another deal for a 4.


i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.

Portland also lucked out in having to face a Denver team that still has a lot of maturing to do despite the collection of talent on that team. They should’ve beat Portland in 6, especially with HCA and no Nurkic.

If Portland faced any other top 5 team in the 2nd round, I think they lose the series.

Plus, getting swept in the conference finals without KD and Boogie on the court is embarrassing.

I can potentially be convinced that Kyrie =Dame’s but DLo would have to improve considerably off the ball to be as effective as CJ McCollum is.
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Post#350 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:28 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward

That lineup doesn’t have the be the Nets final form. They can always trade either of those guys for a disgruntled star down the road.
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Post#351 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:32 am

TheNetsFan wrote:I'm getting greedy. Trade Dinwiddie, sign Kyrie & DLo. Keep our picks, keep LeVert, keep Allen. Sign AD or another 30% max in 2020 after Crabbe, DWill & Harris come off the books.


Chances are whoever trades for AD is probably where he resigns.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#352 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:33 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward

That lineup doesn’t have the be the Nets final form. They can always trade either of those guys for a disgruntled star down the road.


LeVert, if he stays healthy could feasibly take a big step forward. What he showed in the playoffs was some serious stuff against a team that had significant length on the perimeter and in the paint.
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Post#353 » by MGrand15 » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:38 am

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i mean, portland just made the WCF with Lillard/McCollum. nets would be a better, younger version of that with more ability to add to that core in the draft and trades.


Portland also had a lot of early exits on their path to this season. If they're to get over the hump next season, Nurkic will have to have returned and play at a high level.


and we are young enough where we have time to build to get their ourselves.


Only scary part about the move is Kyrie and Lillard are opposites emotionally. Kyrie's been unhappy for the last 4 years at least. Not always his fault but he's still the common denominator. Is he willing to grow with a 2nd round level team? I would assume yes if he signs here but idk about that dude.

Lillard has kept that franchise together like glue through the ups and downs.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#354 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 5, 2019 2:55 am

DLo had mentioned a S&T 2 times in 2 different recent interviews iirc. I wouldn't be shocked if he's used in a S&T to acquire Irving himself. He fits that team's(Celtics) timeline probably much better than the Pels and AD would probably be a draft night trade if it were to happen.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#355 » by FrenchNBAFan » Wed Jun 5, 2019 3:13 am

If we break our core for these Kyrie/Davis I'm done with the Brooklyn Nets.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#356 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 5, 2019 3:47 am

I'd honestly be shocked if Russell isn't back next year. I know this is silly season and none of us are on realgm to talk about boring moves, but it really seems like there was a faint whiff of success/progress/public recognition and we're right back into the Billy King news cycle of going after every big name out there, with no clear public indications that they want to come here, and nothing on the current roster off limits. I just don't think that's how Marks operates.

AD is a guy I could see them making a bold move for, but we weren't on his preferred list so that would obviously have to change. We also don't have the draft picks other teams in the race have.

I really think by far the most likely scenario is that 80% of the roster is back, Marks adds 1 or 2 veteran pieces in the front court, and makes some kind of bold move at the draft (since that's been his MO every year). Obviously I'd love 1 of those veteran pieces to be KD, Kawhi, or Harris and while I think it's possible it's also possible we strike out and Marks goes in a different direction. Like Horford or Porter. But most important is that with the amount of draft capital they have this year, coming away with another 1 or 2 pieces like Kurocs/Allen/Levert to keep improving the core and the amount of ammo to win the next superstar trade.
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Post#357 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Jun 5, 2019 3:51 am

http://amicohoops.net/thunder-reportedly-aiming-to-trade-out-of-first-round/

our 2nd rder for okc's #21 pick? another pick to offer in trades..
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Post#358 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Jun 5, 2019 3:54 am

I seriously would settle for Randle or Hachimura at PF. Tobias Harrias/Bojan Bogdanovic at SF. Butler/Kawhi are likely to resign with their own teams. And Durant seems like is going to the Knicks.
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Post#359 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 5, 2019 4:01 am

I think there's a legitimate chance Durant comes here. I think he's a basketball guy who wants to have fun, probably didn't love the way he got portrayed after his heel turn, and may like the idea of playing with a team of up and coming talent. I don't see the appeal of the knicks to any FA with options since they are still pretty dysfunctional. The Porzingas saga was literally like 5 minutes ago.

Durant could easily decide to go to the Clippers or somewhere other than here, but I do think we're a destination that would make sense.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#360 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Jun 5, 2019 5:03 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward

That lineup doesn’t have the be the Nets final form. They can always trade either of those guys for a disgruntled star down the road.


LeVert, if he stays healthy could feasibly take a big step forward. What he showed in the playoffs was some serious stuff against a team that had significant length on the perimeter and in the paint.
I love LeVert but home needs to develop a consistent jumpshot. It'll help diversify his game so he's not constantly relying upon his ability to beat his defender off the dribble and score tough baskets in the paint.

If he develops anything of a reliable jumpshot in the midrange and proves a capable 3pt shooter, he'll be knocking on the door of allstar consideration in the East.

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