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Re: This offseason 

Post#361 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:08 am

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Curns13 wrote:Mills would immediately be our best bench guy and could start when needed. If we dont get Porter or Hill, he'd be a great consolation prize.

I don't dislike Mills, but I don't love him and more importantly I am not a fan of 2 point guard sets, especially as starters and especially someone as short/small as Mills.

Hill is a combo guard and a legitimate starter, along with, more importantly, a long and strong defender fully capable of defending other starter if not star guards, either 1's or 2's. I don't love him either but he makes a lot more sense from a purely basketball standpoint even though he'll cost a fortune compared to who he actually is and his age.
just wait til the back end of that max overpay. Instead of using the space to make up for the celtics trade to get back assets you got a contract you are stuck with

I honestly don't think he'll have much of a dropoff before his upcoming contract is final, what I do think is it's ridiculous for him to ever get more than $20 mill a season just as an in general, even in today's NBA/cap era.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#362 » by Curns13 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:08 am

kamaze wrote:How about JayMychal Green from Memphis? he's a free agent. They're playing the Spurs right now.

Older and worse than RHJ. We already have 4 power forwards, RHJ and Booker are both better Acy would be close as well.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#363 » by reelsgm » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:13 am

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jbeachboy wrote:sixers are letting sergio go because they want ben simmons to run point guard.

Personally I don't believe it's in the Colangelo's DNA to give the keys to an untested rookie PG even one who was first pick overall.

TJ McConnell starts until at least ASB unless while working his minutes up - Simmons can somehow convince the Colangelos he wont muck things up.


Simmon will be the PG when he comes back from injury since the coach Brown has already stated exactly that. He's a point forward and they sure didn't draft him #1 overall to come off the bench.


Had Simmons played this season, he probably wouldn't have started at Point. Sixers tried rookies under previously tanking-Brown then Colangelos came in and installed Ish Smith, this season Sergio Rodriguez and Jerryd Bayless both acquired BEFORE Simmons injury.

I heard Brown's words and there have been rookies at point, Kyrie, Lillard, Rose, Wall. Simmons as Starter Point Forward would be unique though.

Since you're so presumptuously confident that Simmons starts at Point then I look forward to speaking at beginning of the season, if you're right I'll give you credit.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#364 » by pickIBL » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:05 am

I like my prospects the same way I like my women... foreign- pickIBL
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Re: This offseason 

Post#365 » by FlipFlopShot » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:34 am

None of these international players look all that great.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#366 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:08 am

FlipFlopShot wrote:None of these international players look all that great.


Neither does most of our team :lol:
I got the burner-Kevin Durant

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Post#367 » by kamaze » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:12 am

I got the burner-Kevin Durant

Cream rises to the top-Nic Claxton
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Post#368 » by Paradise » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:20 am

Curns13 wrote:
kamaze wrote:How about JayMychal Green from Memphis? he's a free agent. They're playing the Spurs right now.

Older and worse than RHJ. We already have 4 power forwards, RHJ and Booker are both better Acy would be close as well.

Nah. Green is 26 and he averaged 8/7/.38% 3pt/.60 TS%. He's a much better player than Booker.



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Re: This offseason 

Post#369 » by hood30 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:27 am

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hood30 wrote:
reelsgm wrote:Personally I don't believe it's in the Colangelo's DNA to give the keys to an untested rookie PG even one who was first pick overall.

TJ McConnell starts until at least ASB unless while working his minutes up - Simmons can somehow convince the Colangelos he wont muck things up.


Simmon will be the PG when he comes back from injury since the coach Brown has already stated exactly that. He's a point forward and they sure didn't draft him #1 overall to come off the bench.


Had Simmons played this season, he probably wouldn't have started at Point. Sixers tried rookies under previously tanking-Brown then Colangelos came in and installed Ish Smith, this season Sergio Rodriguez and Jerryd Bayless both acquired BEFORE Simmons injury.

I heard Brown's words and there have been rookies at point, Kyrie, Lillard, Rose, Wall. Simmons as Starter Point Forward would be unique though.

Since you're so presumptuously confident that Simmons starts at Point then I look forward to speaking at beginning of the season, if you're right I'll give you credit.


Brown had stated that Simmon was the starting PG before he got injured...Brown stated clearly he was going to be their point-forward, just like Lebron...Bayless was simply going to play off the ball as a shooter who spreads the floor.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#370 » by Prokorov » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:35 pm

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Curns13 wrote:
kamaze wrote:How about JayMychal Green from Memphis? he's a free agent. They're playing the Spurs right now.

Older and worse than RHJ. We already have 4 power forwards, RHJ and Booker are both better Acy would be close as well.

Nah. Green is 26 and he averaged 8/7/.38% 3pt/.60 TS%. He's a much better player than Booker.



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I like green but not for what it would take... i just hate cutting into cap space with 12-18M role player contracts.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#371 » by Papi_swav » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:03 pm

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Good, so let's max him out so Pistons have to pay him and they can be in cap hell.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#372 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:14 pm

The more I think about it, the more I hate the idea of KCP. He is just not that good. I mean he shot .399% from the field, jacks up 6 3's a game at 35%, doesn't get to the line, suspect playmaker, PER in the 12's...

Yes he's a really good defender, but again, this is like Afflalo coming off rookie deal, except Afflalo was INCREDIBLY more efficient and a better shooter.

KCP on a max is a bad look imho. He's instantly a bad contract and he isn't so good to where you want him taking all the minutes from our young guys like McDaniels, Dinwiddie, Goodwin, whoever we draft, even RHJ's minutes at the 3, or any of LeVert's, hell even Lin's.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#373 » by Prokorov » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:27 pm

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Good, so let's max him out so Pistons have to pay him and they can be in cap hell.


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best news all weekend... one of my top 3 fears... if not #1 was us singing KCP to a huge deal. hope this is true and not just them trying to scare people off
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Re: This offseason 

Post#374 » by Prokorov » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:29 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:The more I think about it, the more I hate the idea of KCP. He is just not that good. I mean he shot .399% from the field, jacks up 6 3's a game at 35%, doesn't get to the line, suspect playmaker, PER in the 12's...

Yes he's a really good defender, but again, this is like Afflalo coming off rookie deal, except Afflalo was INCREDIBLY more efficient and a better shooter.

KCP on a max is a bad look imho. He's instantly a bad contract and he isn't so good to where you want him taking all the minutes from our young guys like McDaniels, Dinwiddie, Goodwin, whoever we draft, even RHJ's minutes at the 3, or any of LeVert's, hell even Lin's.


yes... what ive been saying all along. he is a role guy and not even an elite one. you give him 20+ million and he isntantly becomes one of the 10 worst contracts in the league. im not convinced he is better then Levert. id put him just above the bazemore and crabbes of the world. at east i could talk myself into otto porter. id be throwing fits with KCP on a near-max offer.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#375 » by Paradise » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:30 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Paradise wrote:
Curns13 wrote:Older and worse than RHJ. We already have 4 power forwards, RHJ and Booker are both better Acy would be close as well.

Nah. Green is 26 and he averaged 8/7/.38% 3pt/.60 TS%. He's a much better player than Booker.



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I like green but not for what it would take... i just hate cutting into cap space with 12-18M role player contracts.

Cap fluctuates so it doesn't matter how much. It's all based off the market. You won't ever sign anyone under the market level for long. Even Lin will be due to an increase if we were to surprisingly turn it around in two seasons. $12-18M is the new $6-7M from the previous CBAs.


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Re: This offseason 

Post#376 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:31 pm

Seems like KCP is out of the question now, so first look may be Porter then? Still don't think we'll get him though.

If we get George Hill, I would want Milsap here too. They seem like a good fit playstyle-wise with the guys we have in place... Lin/Hill/Levert/Milsap/Lopez could compete. You better believe with Kenny at the helm we'd be competing hard each night.

Then I'd look to move Booker or RHJ for an 18 draft pick. Otherwise then I wouldn't move much off the bench. Din/IW/Goodwin/Skil/Acy/(RHJ or Booker)/Hamilton and 2 draft picks to throw in... good with me. Didn't we finish with one of the highest scoring benches in the league this year anyway?


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Re: This offseason 

Post#377 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:41 pm

welp Prok you got your wish lol.

Looks like George Hill may be the only realistic option.

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Post#378 » by FlipFlopShot » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:47 pm

Throwing out max is too easy anyway. Back to Restaurant: Impossible, American Pickers and MythBusters.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#379 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:19 pm

I'm still all in on Otto Porter.

And happy that KCP is off the table.
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Re: This offseason 

Post#380 » by Curns13 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:52 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm still all in on Otto Porter.

And happy that KCP is off the table.

I'd say Washington are as well unfortunately.

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