2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread

[SpeedyG]

How does Bol Bol play against physical players? I imagine the grown men in the NBA would able to deal a little blows n dents into him throughout the game.

I don't see the skillset of AD nor Porzingas in him though... that's playing down to AD n KP imo

People are questioning how Zion can finish in the nba...Bol better be used to taking shots off balanced coz he'll get pushed off his spot every single time.

He's intriguing but damn if he isn't a stick. I probably wouldn't mind taking a chance on him depending on who else is left, but I'm making sure my performance team gets some beef on him (and one his frame can support).

It's good to have length, but I'd be damn if my 7 ft whatever with crazy wingspan is taking fades and low percentage shots I'd scream at my guards for taking.

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Kenny would have him taking 3s of course.

Hey if he can knock down the three I'm all for it.

But you negate his size if you park him outside to be a stretch 4.

Whoever takes him, they need to have a plan (physical standpoint, skillset standpoint, and how he'll be used in that team offensively and defensively).

If you take him thinking well he's long and can shoot and can dribble some, great let's take him without having a plan or vision, it's probably not going to work.

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[shakendfries]

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this is the kind of prospect you'd pair with a top notch development staff and wind up with a perennial all-star

[MrDollarBills]

We would be insane not to draft that kid if he's available or if we can package picks and move up.

[MrDollarBills]

People are questioning how Zion can finish in the nba...Bol better be used to taking shots off balanced coz he'll get pushed off his spot every single time.

He's intriguing but damn if he isn't a stick. I probably wouldn't mind taking a chance on him depending on who else is left, but I'm making sure my performance team gets some beef on him (and one his frame can support).

It's good to have length, but I'd be damn if my 7 ft whatever with crazy wingspan is taking fades and low percentage shots I'd scream at my guards for taking.

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Kenny would have him taking 3s of course.

Hey if he can knock down the three I'm all for it.

But you negate his size if you park him outside to be a stretch 4.

Whoever takes him, they need to have a plan (physical standpoint, skillset standpoint, and how he'll be used in that team offensively and defensively).

If you take him thinking well he's long and can shoot and can dribble some, great let's take him without having a plan or vision, it's probably not going to work.

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I don't get why you WOULDN'T want him taking threes? Look at his jump shot and range. That would be like drafting Dirk or Porzingas and not wanting them to shoot threes, feel me?

It's 2018, not 1988.

[SpeedyG]

It's not a problem really. But there's a reason why Porz is called the unicorn and why Dirk is a HOF player.

Is Bol that? He's shooting at a ridiculous rate right now so maybe he is in that unicorn mold.

But like I said, you take him that far out and you negate what males you drool...his height. He might as well be 6'9 or 6'10 and he'll be the same player if that's all you're looking for.

Shooting big men aren't a new thing. Guys like Perkins have been able to shoot even back in the days.

So the focus for me is what can he really do at that size (both length and weight) from the perimeter against Nba caliber defenses?

Right now I don't think he has the strength, but that's easy to develop as a player matures. Can his knees hold up with additional weight? The really tall players historically have had issues with longevity.

Need to see more, but of a few clips/highlights, I'm not sure he can dribble from 3pt line and them go all the way to the hole against Nba defenses.

Yes, the three point shooting is great, but to me that's the gravy, not the meat and potatoes of what will make him great.

I mean, unless he can sustain shooting 50% from NBA range and then yeah...thats elite territory and at that point you don't care if he can't put the ball on the floor lol



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SB Nation has us taking De’Andre Hunter at 9.

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Bol Bol - 32 Pts, 11 Rebs.

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He has the skill set of Porzingis,” Fraschilla said of Bol. “The difference is between the ages of 16 and 19, Porzingis was basically in the second-best league in the world, training with and against men, training as a professional and Bol was transferring high school and playing AAU. The skillset is similar but the preparation for the NBA is going to be completely different.”

Defensively, Bol has the potential to make a huge impact due to his 7-8 wingspan and 9-7 standing reach.

One criticism of Bol has always been his work ethic and it’s unclear how much he truly loves the game.

“The biggest adjustment that Bol’s going to have, which has always been the criticism, is how hard is he going to work to develop into the best player he can possibly be,” Fraschilla said. “There’s always been the question about does he play hard every game? How hard will he work to improve? You give him the benefit of the doubt because of his age but that’s the big difference between Porzingis [and Bol] will be the preparation for the NBA.”

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Bol Bol - 32 Pts, 11 Rebs.

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He has the skill set of Porzingis,” Fraschilla said of Bol. “The difference is between the ages of 16 and 19, Porzingis was basically in the second-best league in the world, training with and against men, training as a professional and Bol was transferring high school and playing AAU. The skillset is similar but the preparation for the NBA is going to be completely different.”

Defensively, Bol has the potential to make a huge impact due to his 7-8 wingspan and 9-7 standing reach.

One criticism of Bol has always been his work ethic and it’s unclear how much he truly loves the game.

“The biggest adjustment that Bol’s going to have, which has always been the criticism, is how hard is he going to work to develop into the best player he can possibly be,” Fraschilla said. “There’s always been the question about does he play hard every game? How hard will he work to improve? You give him the benefit of the doubt because of his age but that’s the big difference between Porzingis [and Bol] will be the preparation for the NBA.”

I watched this game... as good as the box score looks and as good as Bol bol was offensively oregan lost this game and Treyvon Reed thoroughly abused bol bol to the point where they doubled and blitzed him the end of the game (to no avail). Bol finished with the better stat line but Reed would have to be named player of the game...

Reed is 7'2" so Bol wont face many guys his size even in the NBA but it was a glimpse at some of the defensive struggles he has beyond big box score numbers.

[SpeedyG]

This game highlights his potential better compared to other clips I've seen. Someone's going to fall in love with his potential

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[shakendfries]

This game highlights his potential better compared to other clips I've seen. Someone's going to fall in love with his potential

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idk Speedy, the complaint that he's too thin and gets bullied in the post sounds exactly like what scouts were saying about Anthony Davis in 2012..,.

NBA Comparison: Kevin Garnett/Marcus Camby

Strengths: Fluid athleticism, incredible length and guard agility in a 6’10 package ... Davis is a game wrecking defensive presence and disruptor unlike any incoming draft prospect in quite some time (4.8 BPG) ... He combines the physical shot blocking package of a 7’6 wingspan and quick leaping ability with a relentless motor and high-level defensive intelligence ... In addition to his length, the speed at which he chews up ground allows him to affect shots all over the court ... He has phenomenal recovery speed and can cover up the defensive blemishes of teammates ... Single-handedly suffocates opponents physically and mentally, as they know all attempts within his vicinity will be heavily contested at minimum ... Looks like a natural guarding on the perimeter, with quick feet and exceptional hands for a man his size- averages 1.5 steals per game, an unheard of figure at the college center spot ... Rarely gets into foul difficulty despite his aggressive, attack every shot nature ... Davis uses his freakish gifts on the boards as well, snatching nearly 10 rebounds (3 off.) in 31 minutes of action ... Not afraid to mix it up on the interior despite his frail build ... Highly efficient offensive weapon (13.8 PPG, 65% FG) ... Predominantly an off-the ball target, cleaning up on alley-oops both off the pick and roll and dribble hands offs ... Few passes are out of reach, seemingly able to elevate as high as required. RUNS the court ... While not necessarily a power finisher, his explosiveness of the deck is effortless ... Capable of mid-air body adjustments on errant passes ... Displays the body control to hang and alter release to finish through a bump ... His jump shot form is aesthetically pleasing (71% FT), and its effectiveness certainly can be cultivated with work and experience ... Shows glimpses of pick and pop aptitude ... Bullet outlet passes are a major strength ... Can handle the ball in space with occasional facilitation of the offense, and does not appear limited to straight line drives ... Commits under a turnover per game as a freshman big, highlighting his guard skills ... Still only 18 years of age, Davis grew 7 inches (6’3-6’10) between his HS junior and senior seasons ... Dynamic versatility at both ends of the floor makes for boundless potential ...

Weaknesses: The number one drawback on Davis is his overall strength, or lack thereof .. Despite his youth, he is unquestionably thin and the issue remains just how much weight he can add, and how that added weight will affect his speed and agility ... His shoulders suggest he can build on his frame, and he’s noticeably chiseled his arms, however a thin waist likely means he won;t be able to bulk up substantially ... Must work on his core and lower body- easily gets pinned and backed down in the paint ... Unable to establish and maintain position inside, often finding himself bumped off balance ... Rarely used in isolation post-up’s during his freshman campaign, particularly given his size advantage on many nights and solid footwork ... Offensive canvas is raw, with obvious enormous room for improvement ... Doesn’t yet have a feel for his jump shot, often rushing the attempt and shooting a flat shot ... There are times where he displays extreme comfort handling the ball, but face-up/dribble-drive maneuvers are few and far between ... While he’s a tremendous secondary and tertiary leaper, he too often leaves his feet on pump fakes ... It’s hard to fault him for being shot block happy, but the lack of discipline is not to his benefit ... His athleticism and length won’t cover up all shortcomings against super competition ... Projecting Davis going forward, there’s not much to dislike ... Physical maturity is the only visible hurdle standing in his path to beast mode.

Adam Ganeles 2/23/12

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[SpeedyG]

Davis was listed as 6'10 253. He's gotten stronger and grew a couple more inches I'm sure. But Bol is being listed right now at 7'2 235.

I think Porzingis is the closer comp. I will put the caveat that I've only seen clips of him, which really doesn't show lateral quickness etc on defense.

He's got the length for sure and that might be enough. But I recall watching Davis and his fluidity quickness and explosion you can tell he'll translate to the NBA.

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[shakendfries]

Davis was listed as 6'10 253

Anthony Davis was actually listed at 222 at the time.

HEIGHT: 6'10" (208 cm) WEIGHT: 222 lbs (101 kg)

He's definitely a plodder and seems slow laterally, but I doubt there's a guard in the league who'd look forward to switching to Bol Bol or Jarrett Allen off the PNR.

[SpeedyG]

Davis was listed as 6'10 253

Anthony Davis was actually listed at 222 at the time.

HEIGHT: 6'10" (208 cm) WEIGHT: 222 lbs (101 kg)

He's definitely a plodder and seems slow laterally, but I doubt there's a guard in the league who'd look forward to switching to Bol Bol or Jarrett Allen off the PNR.

It really doesn't change the argument though. I've seen Bol listed as low as 225. Watching them play, I don't think Bol is the athlete (both strength, agility, and explosiveness) that AD was.

And for good reason...he's 4 inches taller!

Like I said, strength really isn't the issue. A lot of players from collegiate level to pros...thats the easiest thing to fix. I'm sure bol will get stronger.

But 7'2 is such a rare height in the NBA and that's for good reason. You generally just don't find guys that tall that are able to move like those 4-6 inches shorter than them. Then you have to figure how they will handle the additional weight. Bol's legs are crazy thin. It's not like he just lacks upper body strength...

So the strength is a concern, but it's not a big concern. It's how his game translates to the NBA that you have to figure out, and how the additional weight will affect him.

He's intriguing, but as I said earlier, your team needs to have a full plan and vision how to develop him:

how do you want to develop his body?

Are you going to groom him as a 4? 5?

What skills does he have that translates?

What other skills does he need?

How does he fit with your team? Your strategy and plan?

I think you need to have all that if you take him.

So curious for those who are high on him right now. I know a few of you have brought up how intriguing he is to pair with Allen.

If you're one of those, how do you envision them fitting/playing together both offensivelt/defensively?

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[MrDollarBills]

I would be stunned if Bol is even over 219-225.

[SpeedyG]

I would be stunned if Bol is even over 219-225.

Yeah I think it was ESPN or bball reference that had him at 235. But just looking at him I think the 220-225 is more what I'm thinking.

Definitely not against us taking a flyer on him though. He's certainly worth the risk and if there's anything that we know about this team is they focus on player development. I feel confident he'll be his best self here

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[shakendfries]

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Zion Williamson vs Indiana:

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[MrDollarBills]

I would target Romeo Langford to be honest.

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I would target Romeo Langford to be honest.

Ja Morant is rapidly rising as a lottery pick too.

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[MrDollarBills]

yeah I've seen him, his ball handle and passing is nasty. I dunno if Nets are targeting PG though.

we need a wing with some scoring umph and athleticism.