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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#361 » by Jay555 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:16 pm

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GTR11 wrote:Nic must start Nic period. His D is elite level and gives us lob threat as additional option. For him to be effective, we need Dragic to suck it up and give us all he got.

Dragic as I predicted will be key player for both teams. If he plays good BK in 5-6, he's ass we lose. Him putting pressure and passing is a key. We almost won with KD being none factor.


You are overly confident. If Rob is back, Celtics would be formidable. It's going to be a long series.

Or you over exaggerating his impact. I didn't see him dominate us one time with his impact.

See how that works.


Celtics had No 1 D because of Rob.. Rob makes their D elite and also gives them lob threat. (Like Nic)
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Post#362 » by GTR11 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:19 pm

On a good news, Curry is not unplayable as I thought. Still dumbfounded why they didn't target him and abused him every single position.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#363 » by Eatgreenz » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:21 pm

Fire Nash as always think most of us can agree on that. I hope this game showed why Bruce can't see Ben. Ben can just make so many more plays and defense is 1st all nba. Bruce is Ben's mini who will shoot 3's
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Post#364 » by Born_Ready » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:23 pm

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Claud wrote:Something else bothering me..

Why do the refs allow Boston to play such physical defense, but if we match their physicality we get called bs fouls?
It just doesn't feel fair the way they're calling it.

Not to mention smart is always flopping and flailing dangerously all over the court, but that's considered high IQ and not reckless?


Me and my oldest son was having this exact same conversation about 20 mins ago. KD is frail and it’s obvious when he’s getting pushed and Boston is allowed to reach, foul all game long and gets a way with it.

The one that pissed me off was the charge they called on KD against Marcus Smart (y’all know the one I’m talking about). Smart knew it was bogus walks to the paint winks at Udoka and Udoka gives him a thumbs up. That was the most horrendous call of the day in my opinion. Either let them play equally or call it both ways.

I don’t want to just blame the officials tho. Brooklyn has ample opportunities throughout the game to put Boston away.


We should have learned a lesson from last postseason when Tucker was all over KD and the refs let a lot go. Ime remembered that's how the Bucks were able to slow KD down a bit, so he threw Williams at him who has a similar build to Tucker and mind in Smart and Tatum as well. That's why we need to run more screens to get KD open more often and take some of the stress of having overly physical defenders on him.

We're asking KD to play 40+ minutes as our initiator on offense, ISO specialist, and as our best defender. He's gonna wear down. And I'm not going to excuse his play today because he had a ton of mental mistakes, but he's got to be feeling all the minutes he's piled up since coming back from his knee injury.


Yeah, one would have to assume the amount of minutes KD has endured post injury has to be weighing on him. I’m used to him having a careless turnover or two, but it gets over looked because he’s so lethal on offense.

I believe Dantoni not being able to influence the play calling is transparent and as good of a player Nash was to get open, or get players open, he can’t coach players to do the same. Makes zero sense honestly.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#365 » by GTR11 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:25 pm

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You are overly confident. If Rob is back, Celtics would be formidable. It's going to be a long series.

Or you over exaggerating his impact. I didn't see him dominate us one time with his impact.

See how that works.


Celtics had No 1 D because of Rob.. Rob makes their D elite and also gives them lob threat. (Like Nic)

Bob is not entire team and he can easily be eliminated from the play after PnR just like they did with Nic. This is not regular season either. If he would've been all that some him portrait him to be he'd be max contract all star.

You know why he's not? I doubt you will because it won't fit your narrative you going so hard for.
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Post#366 » by GTR11 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:31 pm

Ben is an all star max player 1st team all D. Making Bob on par player like Saltics do is laughable.
Some of you need to open your eyes and be 100 about Bob. He's athletic freak and typical rim runner. Very good player that getting overhyped. He ain't game changer.

Also he constantly hurt. Being reliant on him is absurd.
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Post#367 » by Jay555 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:39 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:Or you over exaggerating his impact. I didn't see him dominate us one time with his impact.

See how that works.


Celtics had No 1 D because of Rob.. Rob makes their D elite and also gives them lob threat. (Like Nic)

Bob is not entire team and he can easily be eliminated from the play after PnR just like they did with Nic. This is not regular season either. If he would've been all that some him portrait him to be he'd be max contract all star.

You know why he's not? I doubt you will because it won't fit your narrative you going so hard for.


Calm down. I am just simply pointing out it would be a long series if they get Rob back.

What's with all the narrative talk?
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Post#368 » by gigantes » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:39 pm

Shark wrote:We're asking KD to play 40+ minutes as our initiator on offense, ISO specialist, and as our best defender. He's gonna wear down. And I'm not going to excuse his play today because he had a ton of mental mistakes, but he's got to be feeling all the minutes he's piled up since coming back from his knee injury.

Yeah, it's ridiculous to see the number of "fans" here sh-tting on KD. I'm not big on that expression, but if the shoe fits..

This team would probably be competing for a top lottery pick without KD. It's crazy to see a 33yr old guy coming off such a terrible injury have to do almost everything for a team, and of course be the #1 target by the league's top defense.

Meanwhile, a much younger, fresher Jayson Tatum doesn't have to do nearly as much for his team as Durant does.
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Post#369 » by GTR11 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:40 pm

Our boy Allen is an all star that filled in. Some of you know why Bob's name wasn't even mentioned?
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Post#370 » by GTR11 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:44 pm

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Celtics had No 1 D because of Rob.. Rob makes their D elite and also gives them lob threat. (Like Nic)

Bob is not entire team and he can easily be eliminated from the play after PnR just like they did with Nic. This is not regular season either. If he would've been all that some him portrait him to be he'd be max contract all star.

You know why he's not? I doubt you will because it won't fit your narrative you going so hard for.


Calm down. I am just simply pointing out it would be a long series if they get Rob back.

What's with all the narrative talk?


I'm cool, not even sweating it.

This will be quick series if we had Ben and Joe. Bob wouldn't been a factor. I can easily make a case Joe would've made more impact stretching the floor and allowing KD get more space. Which means his impact that much more effective than Bob's who can be eliminated as an option after PnR.
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Post#371 » by Kobe187 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:48 pm

Intense physical game with the Celtics getting away with a lot of shoving, grabbing, reaching etc. Surprised Drummond wasn’t back in the lineup to close out the game considering the Nets had the lead. Claxton played good and should’ve been inserted into the lineup sooner in the 1st but you must close out with a bigger lineup in the final minute when there’s chaos and body’s banging everywhere, both Celtics buckets in the final seconds were layups in the paint.
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Post#372 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:54 pm

KD was bad but we ran zero action to help get him open.

Even on our last possession, what are we even doing there? Kyrie was trying to drive against 4 dudes.

The coaching disparity is an embarrassment. Udoka took KD out of the game and Nash had no counter, it was Kyrie who brought the team back after a brutal 3rd quarter.

Joe Tsai is literally crazy for letting this continue another year
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#373 » by Jay555 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:54 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:Bob is not entire team and he can easily be eliminated from the play after PnR just like they did with Nic. This is not regular season either. If he would've been all that some him portrait him to be he'd be max contract all star.

You know why he's not? I doubt you will because it won't fit your narrative you going so hard for.


Calm down. I am just simply pointing out it would be a long series if they get Rob back.

What's with all the narrative talk?


I'm cool, not even sweating it.

This will be quick series if we had Ben and Joe. Bob wouldn't been a factor. I can easily make a case Joe would've made more impact stretching the floor and allowing KD get more space. Which means his impact that much more effective than Bob's who can be eliminated as an option after PnR.


The thing is we do not have them. If we had Ben and Joe, Celtics would have tanked the last game and tried to avoid us at all costs.
If we had Ben and Joe healthy, we would be favourite. Period. I am talking about a series that Ben might be back in G4 or G5 hence a long series.
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Post#374 » by brannigan73 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:03 am

Loss mainly on Durant although that last defensive possession was mystifying. Marcus Smart is a career 32% three point shooter which honestly surprisely me I thought he was a little better then that maybe 35% which still isnt particularly good for a modern NBA guard who doesnt shoot it usually unless he is wide open. I'd have to watch it again but I feel like it was porbably Claxton's fault he should have held back.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#375 » by Born_Ready » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:04 am

I just saw the last play of the game and KD was watching Smart as Tatum slipped behind him on the final possession. When they see that stuff on film they need to learn how paying attention to details is so important. Had he ran with Tatum to the basket he could have gotten a block, caused Tatum to force it, etc. Game 2 must Brooklyn must be better in all facets of the game to keep their playoff hopes alive.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#376 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:07 am

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Calm down. I am just simply pointing out it would be a long series if they get Rob back.

What's with all the narrative talk?


I'm cool, not even sweating it.

This will be quick series if we had Ben and Joe. Bob wouldn't been a factor. I can easily make a case Joe would've made more impact stretching the floor and allowing KD get more space. Which means his impact that much more effective than Bob's who can be eliminated as an option after PnR.


The thing is we do not have them. If we had Ben and Joe, Celtics would have tanked the last game and tried to avoid us at all costs.
If we had Ben and Joe healthy, we would be favourite. Period. I am talking about a series that Ben might be back in G4 or G5 hence a long series.

We'll see, just hyped after couple goos shots and Corona. I expected much more from Ime and Saltics. We just choked the game on the last possession. Frustrated but not mad.

Also don't expect much of the changes. These coaches and players know each other too well to expect anything different.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#377 » by GTR11 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:12 am

Have to give credit to Kyrie. He absolutely made difference today. Without him and KD being ass it's a blow out.

If only he can give us a little more of half time Kyrie games, I'm not worried about this Saltic team. This Ramadan limiting him.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#378 » by Eatgreenz » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:05 am

If theis and hortford are on the floor why the fu** is Blake not playing perfect matchups for him
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#379 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:09 am

Just fire Nash before gm 2....

Whoever steps in can easily install a real offensive system
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#380 » by Claud » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:09 am

Why Not give LMA some minutes? He tends to OWN Horford who went off on us.

I'd start LMA with Clax off then bench for game 2. If LMA looks like ****, then play Drummond.

Drummond played too unfocused for my liking + gets cooked on defense.

LMA at least can space the floor, hit some Js, make FTs, etc. Better spacing = more efficient 7/11

It's not like Drummond is a world beater on D.

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