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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#381 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Jun 6, 2019 12:21 am

MGrand15 wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:since okc interested in trading their #21 pick to avoid luxury tax. we could offer our 2nd rder to them. Then package Crabbe+#21 to a team like Hawks as salary dump to free up cap space. Offer Tobias Harris Max. Resign Dlo with Max. Sign Julius Randle. And we'll still have our own #17 and #27 to work with. I would think about trading DW+Allen+17th to Houston for Clint Capella. If not, i'll be fine with retaining Allen as our starting center.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Tobias Harris
Randle
Capella

We'll be a very balanced team. We'll kill teams inside and outside. Randle and Capella will be eating up all the rebs.


Man, can you stop throwing out that OKC trade please? The 21st pick for the 31st pick is such a ridiculous trade :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://amicohoops.net/thunder-reportedly-aiming-to-trade-out-of-first-round/
okc looking to trade outta the 1st rd cuz the salary for the 1st rder will be guaranteed. they're trying to avoid the luxury tax.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#382 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Jun 6, 2019 12:39 am

IceManBK1 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:since okc interested in trading their #21 pick to avoid luxury tax. we could offer our 2nd rder to them. Then package Crabbe+#21 to a team like Hawks as salary dump to free up cap space. Offer Tobias Harris Max. Resign Dlo with Max. Sign Julius Randle. And we'll still have our own #17 and #27 to work with. I would think about trading DW+Allen+17th to Houston for Clint Capella. If not, i'll be fine with retaining Allen as our starting center.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Tobias Harris
Randle
Capella

We'll be a very balanced team. We'll kill teams inside and outside. Randle and Capella will be eating up all the rebs.


Man, can you stop throwing out that OKC trade please? The 21st pick for the 31st pick is such a ridiculous trade :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://amicohoops.net/thunder-reportedly-aiming-to-trade-out-of-first-round/
okc looking to trade outta the 1st rd cuz the salary for the 1st rder will be guaranteed. they're trying to avoid the luxury tax.


Read on Twitter

old news, but Nets have targeted both Randle and Capela before. Now is the time to sign/trade for them.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#383 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 6, 2019 1:43 am

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IceManBK1 wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:
Man, can you stop throwing out that OKC trade please? The 21st pick for the 31st pick is such a ridiculous trade :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://amicohoops.net/thunder-reportedly-aiming-to-trade-out-of-first-round/
okc looking to trade outta the 1st rd cuz the salary for the 1st rder will be guaranteed. they're trying to avoid the luxury tax.


Read on Twitter

old news, but Nets have targeted both Randle and Capela before. Now is the time to sign/trade for them.


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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#384 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 6, 2019 2:02 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I agree with Rich. Irving and Russell aren't enough unless you think LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs are all taking another step forward


arent enough for what? thats a lock 50-55 win team


if you're adding a guy like Irving you're now in a "win now" situation. We will need more than Russell/Irving to compete against Milwaukee, Philly, and Toronto if Leonard stays.


kyrie is 27 and would be on a 4 or 5 year deal. how in the world is that "win now"
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#385 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 6, 2019 2:04 am

IceManBK1 wrote:trading for gordon and capella with the rockets for DW, crabbe, and Allen isn't bad too. We max Dlo and still can sign couple 2nd tier FA like bojan bogdanovic and Julius Randle for 15/yr deals.
Dlo
Gordon
Bojan
Randle
Capella


that team would be a significant downgrade to what we ended the year with. a ton of guys who dont fit and are overpaid
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#386 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 6, 2019 2:05 am

MGrand15 wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:since okc interested in trading their #21 pick to avoid luxury tax. we could offer our 2nd rder to them. Then package Crabbe+#21 to a team like Hawks as salary dump to free up cap space. Offer Tobias Harris Max. Resign Dlo with Max. Sign Julius Randle. And we'll still have our own #17 and #27 to work with. I would think about trading DW+Allen+17th to Houston for Clint Capella. If not, i'll be fine with retaining Allen as our starting center.

Dlo
Joe Harris
Tobias Harris
Randle
Capella

We'll be a very balanced team. We'll kill teams inside and outside. Randle and Capella will be eating up all the rebs.


Man, can you stop throwing out that OKC trade please? The 21st pick for the 31st pick is such a ridiculous trade :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


its also a bad trade for us
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#387 » by SpeedyG » Thu Jun 6, 2019 1:21 pm

Really not a fan of the AD deal as it strips us of a lot of our assets unless the Pels are willing to take Russell on a S&T and we keep Caris.

I think if we somehow managed to get Irving and KD, our lineup would be

Kyrie/Spencer
Caris/Musa
Harris/
KD/Rodi
Allen/

That is a good team that is a good roster fit with enough depth, versatility and star power to sustain us through injuries.

Sure adding an AD to that is very appealing, and as a FA it might have worked but as trade where we are gutting our roster to make it work? I'm not so sure.



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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#388 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 6, 2019 3:15 pm

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
arent enough for what? thats a lock 50-55 win team


if you're adding a guy like Irving you're now in a "win now" situation. We will need more than Russell/Irving to compete against Milwaukee, Philly, and Toronto if Leonard stays.


kyrie is 27 and would be on a 4 or 5 year deal. how in the world is that "win now"


Win now because we wouldn't want him to flip out because we're not in win now mode?

Really, the best case scenario is if Irving wants to play here, we need to renounce Russell and either get Durant or at worse Tobias Harris in here.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#389 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jun 6, 2019 4:34 pm

From looking t all the rumors and the construction of the team I firmly think this is our plan(assuming Kyrie is 100% coming here):

Plan A: Sign KD in FA, let DLo go.
Plan B: Trade for AD while holding onto DLo or Caris(basically letting the Pels pick on of the 2.)
Plan C: Re-sign DLo and make smaller moves build around Kyrie and DLo back court.
Plan D: If DLo doesn't like the kyrie signing, sign Tobias Harris
Plan E: If Harris signs with Philly/elsewhere scrap, trade for all star level type/system fit player on an expiring contract
Plan F: If Kyrie changes his mind last minute. Sign DLo and build around him, try to trade/sign another all star/promising player
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#390 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:21 pm

Kyrie
Dlo
Harris
Hachimura(trade DW to atl for#10 pick)
Allen

Kyrie and dlo option 1A and 1B on offense. Rest of guys don't really need balls in their hands to be effective.

Resign Napier or give George Hill MLE, carroll, and Ed Davis. Draft PJ Washington so we have stretch 4.

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Levert
Kurucs
PJ
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#391 » by IceManBK1 » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:32 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-free-agency-rumors-celtics-star-likely-to-move-on-in-offseason-knicks-a-possible-destination-per-report/amp/
Idk guys...kyrie is reported to go to Knicks also. Don't get our Hope's up. Nets issue with their lineup is lack up size and rebounding and defense. Would prefer if they max tobias harris and draft hachimura or sign julius randle.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#392 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 6, 2019 5:50 pm

Kyrie and the Knicks seem like good fits for each other. If they can pair him with AD or KD (which seems possible if not likely), that would seem to make a lot of sense.

And if we could get whichever of KD or AD they don't get (or Leonard) that would be a huge win for us. Adding any of those guys to this team and maintaining the room to make a final addition sometime during the season would be ideal.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#393 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 6, 2019 8:18 pm

SpeedyG wrote:Really not a fan of the AD deal as it strips us of a lot of our assets unless the Pels are willing to take Russell on a S&T and we keep Caris.

I think if we somehow managed to get Irving and KD, our lineup would be

Kyrie/Spencer
Caris/Musa
Harris/
KD/Rodi
Allen/

That is a good team that is a good roster fit with enough depth, versatility and star power to sustain us through injuries.

Sure adding an AD to that is very appealing, and as a FA it might have worked but as trade where we are gutting our roster to make it work? I'm not so sure.



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Dlo + Kyrie + AD + 9 bums from the YMCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no AD trade
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#394 » by Prokorov » Thu Jun 6, 2019 8:20 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kyrie-irving-free-agency-rumors-celtics-star-likely-to-move-on-in-offseason-knicks-a-possible-destination-per-report/amp/
Idk guys...kyrie is reported to go to Knicks also. Don't get our Hope's up. Nets issue with their lineup is lack up size and rebounding and defense. Would prefer if they max tobias harris and draft hachimura or sign julius randle.


size and rebounding are not issues. or things the front office values. they will get high end talent wherever they can get it.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#395 » by SpeedyG » Thu Jun 6, 2019 8:25 pm

Prokorov wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Really not a fan of the AD deal as it strips us of a lot of our assets unless the Pels are willing to take Russell on a S&T and we keep Caris.

I think if we somehow managed to get Irving and KD, our lineup would be

Kyrie/Spencer
Caris/Musa
Harris/
KD/Rodi
Allen/

That is a good team that is a good roster fit with enough depth, versatility and star power to sustain us through injuries.

Sure adding an AD to that is very appealing, and as a FA it might have worked but as trade where we are gutting our roster to make it work? I'm not so sure.



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Dlo + Kyrie + AD + 9 bums from the YMCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no AD trade
Yeah and we would have $109M tied up on cap with those three players so yeah we will need to sign ymca players to fill up that roster and hope the injury concern for each of those guys don't bite us in the butt.

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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#396 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 7, 2019 1:02 pm

SpeedyG wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:Really not a fan of the AD deal as it strips us of a lot of our assets unless the Pels are willing to take Russell on a S&T and we keep Caris.

I think if we somehow managed to get Irving and KD, our lineup would be

Kyrie/Spencer
Caris/Musa
Harris/
KD/Rodi
Allen/

That is a good team that is a good roster fit with enough depth, versatility and star power to sustain us through injuries.

Sure adding an AD to that is very appealing, and as a FA it might have worked but as trade where we are gutting our roster to make it work? I'm not so sure.



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Dlo + Kyrie + AD + 9 bums from the YMCA >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no AD trade
Yeah and we would have $109M tied up on cap with those three players so yeah we will need to sign ymca players to fill up that roster and hope the injury concern for each of those guys don't bite us in the butt.

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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#397 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:45 pm

How would people feel if it was Kyrie and Jimmy Butler or maybe Tobias Harris, but while retaining DLo, but needing to deal Joe Harris or possibly Dinwiddie?
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#398 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:56 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:How would people feel if it was Kyrie and Jimmy Butler or maybe Tobias Harris, but while retaining DLo, but needing to deal Joe Harris or possibly Dinwiddie?

I'm all for it. I'd prefer to deal Dinwiddie & retain Harris. I feel like keeping DLo & getting Kyrie & Tobias is that right balance of step forward with youth & longevity.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#399 » by DarkXaero » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:57 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:How would people feel if it was Kyrie and Jimmy Butler or maybe Tobias Harris, but while retaining DLo, but needing to deal Joe Harris or possibly Dinwiddie?
I don't like it, especially if its Tobias Harris. Jimmy butler may be old but he's a significantly better/more proven player than Tobias imo. IMO, if we're signing Kyrie and one of Butler/Tobias, D Lo has to be the one to go, not Dinwiddie & Joe Harris. Both Dinwiddie and Joe Harris are great value contracts, we're better off keeping them.
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Re: Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread 

Post#400 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:23 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:How would people feel if it was Kyrie and Jimmy Butler or maybe Tobias Harris, but while retaining DLo, but needing to deal Joe Harris or possibly Dinwiddie?

If we’re out of the running for KD & AD, I think Marks will go for Tobias Harris, since he’d can slot in at the 4.

We’d probably run a system similar to Houston where one star ball handler (Kyrie or DLo) is on the floor at all times. Caris and Harris will split off with Kyrie and DLo, so there’s always a second option on the floor.

I sound like a broken record but I hope LeVert is working on his shot. We need him to become a reliable 3pt shooter.

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