therealbig3 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:therealbig3 wrote:
I think you misunderstood. I actually wasn’t generalizing about the black community.
I was actually trying to call out KD specifically. I’m pretty sure he’s shown support and has made statements about injustices that the black community faces in the past. So I’m calling him a hypocrite for then turning around and using homophobic and sexist language as a means to insult someone else.
Idk how the black community is in general with this kind of stuff. I don’t think there’s a double standard with the entire community...if some black people are being hypocrites, it doesn’t mean all black people are hypocrites. Figured that my issue was with KD specifically and not the black community as a whole was obvious in my post. *shrug*
Honestly, I think there’s a lot of apologist talk from both Nets fans and people that do use this kind of language in their private lives that want to defend their ability to keep using that language, and so I wanted to point out that KD is a huge hypocrite if he has spoken out against racism and social injustice that his own community faces in the past. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be cool if someone called him the N word or a dumb monkey, so why is he so freely saying C-sucker and the other C word and bitch? He’s using other marginalized communities as insults.
What does KD's ignorance and homophobic rhetoric have to do with Black men speaking out against social issues though, what led you to even going there? What does one have to do with the other? You could easily take KD to task for homophobic and misogynist rhetoric without making some sweeping generalization. KD isn't even at the forefront of any of the social justice stuff and you can clearly see why. I could see if it was Kyrie, Chris Paul, or someone like Jaylen Brown, but KD? Nah.
But I constantly see this kind of crap on here, an NBA player does something (like say, LeBron being mum about China) and someone non Black uses that as an attempt to passive aggressively discredit Black people speaking out against social injustice. You're not slick bro.
And I'm not an apologist for KD's behavior, I didn't even realize how awful he was being until you pointed it out because I just glanced over it thinking KD was just being a troll, but dude went completely out of bounds. Personally, I don't use that rhetoric, nor do I view it as "locker room talk", I condemn it because homophobia gets people killed, especially Black people in the LGBTQA community at an alarming rate. It's not cool, it will never be cool. But you trying to use this as an opportunity to somehow discredit Black ppl speaking out is garbage that isn't a rare occurrence on RealGm or other social media NBA circles.
I clearly must have poorly explained what I was getting then, because I wasn't trying to call out the community or make a sweeping generalization at all.
Best I can explain it is I guess I want people that ARE supporting KD to take a look in the mirror to understand MY perspective that what he's doing is dumb...as in, if you ARE a black person that feels some type of way about what the black community has to deal with, but you are simultaneously shrugging off what KD did and defending him, then I want you to understand the disconnect there. You can't be selective about which community you can use foul language about, just because you have a vested interest in one community.
I agree 100%.
That's the double standard/hypocrisy I was pointing out, because there are a lot of people saying people are being snowflakes about this, or are overreacting, etc., and unless you're a purebred white person who has never faced any sort of discrimination in your life, that person is not being objective about this, because I'm damn sure you can find language that can be thrown around that would offend them.
My thing is, that hypocrisy isn't exclusive to any community, which is how your initial comments came across, and it didn't help that someone else piggybacked off of that to use it as an opportunity to air out his racially charged grievances out about how some Black dudes talking trash to him on a basketball court in NY has him triggered, in a poor attempt to use it as a generalization about Black people. Taking some time to step back, I will apologize to you because I went at both of you with the same energy when that wasn't warranted.
I'm going to be blunt, Kevin Durant was being ignorant, and no one should excuse his behavior. You can insult someone in so many ways that doesn't invoke their skin color, sexuality, or gender. A million ways. If Durant called Rappaport a dumb f*ck no one would have cared about this, but dude went deep into the bag of garbage.
If it was an Asian person that got rightfully offended over an Asian slur, and was active in the recent "stop Asian hate" movement, but then went off on a similar rant against someone who pissed them off, I would have kind of said the same thing about the double standard there, and anybody supporting that person. But it wouldn't be meant as an attack on the Asian community.
But hey, if that's how it came off, I sincerely apologize. Hopefully, it's clear that my intention wasn't to disparage the black community.
We're good. I apologize about cursing at you, but I do think that you could step back a bit because there are hypocrites in every community and their garbage behavior does not invalidate everyone else's fight against racism, violence against minorities, homophobia, misogyny, or any other area that society as a whole is trying to overcome. That's all I'm trying to say.
KD got exposed today for being ignorant and I sincerely hope that he apologizes to the communities that he has hurt with his rhetoric. He should do so before the NBA does it for him.
