Going forward to next season and beyond

[MGrand15]

This 5-out stuff just isn't true. We leaned on it when our offense struggled but Bruce Brown still played basically all of G7. The staff avoided playing Brown + Claxton together for obvious reasons.

I think Joe is gone. 100%. He's our only trade chip. We can move him for 2 rotation players and beef up our depth. We already know he's not built for this. He was pathetic against the Bucks. All of that aside - his shooting is nice but we need a better defender in the starting lineup. Our defense was solid in the playoffs somehow but there's no excuse for KD to be the primary defender on superstars. Joe got completely cooked on defense.

I would do everything possible to bring Brown back. He brings the type of energy this team needs. We need more guys like that.

Claxton should be the starter next year. I hope he takes bulking up seriously this offseason. If Blake is willing to stay, I'm cool with the center rotation. If Blake leaves, we've got to sign someone.

[Prokorov]

Capela started under D'Antoni, and he was the one in charge really, Nash just follows his lead, so there might be hope for Claxton starting.

D'antoni then moved capella, after a career year, so he could start PJ tucker at center

nash is a moron. he isnt playing claxton he is going to parrot dantoni

nash thinks he did a great job this year. he isnt making changes

They did that because of Westbrook, he needed all the spacing he could get, but you might be right, D'Antoni might think that this 5 out system is ideal, maybe Capela was just a hindrance anyway. Any change should start with Nash though, move him and the rest will fall in place. It's hard to win without a real coach because everything needs to go perfectly to overcome that, and it didn't happen this year. Even Durant going crazy wasn't enough to overcome Nash.

Axe nash, bring in becky hammond.

[Sharcm1]

I think trading joe is a mistake. Huge mistake. I know he didn’t hit his shots for the last few games of the series. But he did in the first two games. I think he was tired. Nash over worked the starters a lot in this series. I honestly think joe will continue to work and get better. Which he has every year. He also rebounds well and tips the ball inside for the team to rebound.

I think they need to upgrade some of the third string bench players and bring back green and griffin. I would bring back dinwiddie also. We need a back up point guard. He’s perfect.

[Prokorov]

I still feel like this team fits perfectly around the Big 3.

Like were blaming the roster for not doing things it wasn't supposed to do.

First, get Harris a mental therapist.

The only thing I would look at add is a true big. But I really don't think we would play anyone like that in a playoff series.

The biggest add would obviously be Dinwiddie. If we could get him back we could have won this series easily.

Keep Dinwiddie, Brown. Keep Green. Maybe add another big. Thats it.

I agree with this. the biggest issue to me was just not trusting some of those guys. Harris struggled... we have shamet and TJ on the bench, both very much capable of playing playoff minutes.

I think if you can get another jeff green type or a green upgrade that can play the 3,4 or 5, that would be helpful. otherwsie, i like our team.

PJ tucker would be the guy i target.

He clearly is friends with KD/Kyrie/Harden... is a FA, and then the bucks have no one to defend KD.

id give him our MLE

Tucker admitted that he wanted to come here. I think KD needs to do some heavy recruiting.

If PJ wanted to come here that is a huge stain on marks....

we could have included him in the harden trade or dealt for him at the deadline. terrible.

[Prokorov]

This 5-out stuff just isn't true. We leaned on it when our offense struggled but Bruce Brown still played basically all of G7. The staff avoided playing Brown + Claxton together for obvious reasons.

brown only played because green was slow after game 5 with the foot injury. its why green was limited game 7. He really had no other option a F who could shoot.

I think Joe is gone. 100%. He's our only trade chip. We can move him for 2 rotation players and beef up our depth. We already know he's not built for this. He was pathetic against the Bucks. All of that aside - his shooting is nice but we need a better defender in the starting lineup. Our defense was solid in the playoffs somehow but there's no excuse for KD to be the primary defender on superstars. Joe got completely cooked on defense.

I dont know what role player you expect who will do any better then joe. maybe we need a better defender, but the list of role defenders who can shoot is super small, and alot of them also stunk in big moments. basically, there is covington or reddick. im not sure Joe gets you either.

Claxton should be the starter next year. I hope he takes bulking up seriously this offseason. If Blake is willing to stay, I'm cool with the center rotation. If Blake leaves, we've got to sign someone.

I think claxton is more likely to be traded then start. i agree he should start

[Prokorov]

I think trading joe is a mistake. Huge mistake. I know he didn’t hit his shots for the last few games of the series. But he did in the first two games. I think he was tired. Nash over worked the starters a lot in this series. I honestly think joe will continue to work and get better. Which he has every year. He also rebounds well and tips the ball inside for the team to rebound.

I think they need to upgrade some of the third string bench players and bring back green and griffin. I would bring back dinwiddie also. We need a back up point guard. He’s perfect.

I dont think we can bring all these guys back. Dinwiddie already opted out and blake/brown/green will get multiple offers. i think we can count on 1 back, maybe 2 if they decide to eat tax 1 year with dinwiddie and trade him next year.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I agree with this. the biggest issue to me was just not trusting some of those guys. Harris struggled... we have shamet and TJ on the bench, both very much capable of playing playoff minutes.

I think if you can get another jeff green type or a green upgrade that can play the 3,4 or 5, that would be helpful. otherwsie, i like our team.

PJ tucker would be the guy i target.

He clearly is friends with KD/Kyrie/Harden... is a FA, and then the bucks have no one to defend KD.

id give him our MLE

Tucker admitted that he wanted to come here. I think KD needs to do some heavy recruiting.

If PJ wanted to come here that is a huge stain on marks....

we could have included him in the harden trade or dealt for him at the deadline. terrible.

I won't blame Marks because the Bucks traded for him and Houston clearly knew they could get more for him during the Harden trade.

I agree we have to recruit him this off season. We need someone like him.

[TheNetsFan]

Next year's roster:
Locked in: KD, Harden, Kyrie, Shamet, Claxton, Alize

Resign if possible (raise needed, by order of importance): Griffin, Brown, Green

Resign if possible (minimum type deals): TJ, Mike James

Trade Bait Bubble: Joe Harris

Trade Bait/Dump/Walk: DJ, Dinwiddie

Not retained: Chiozza, TLC, Perry (2way Bubble)

Thought process: You keep guys on rookie & near minimum deals that you're unlikely to find better options at that dollar value. You're better of with guys familiar with your system than similar or worse players from the outside.

Dinwiddie is cost prohibitive as a tertiary ball handler. Yes we really needed him with Kyrie down & Harden hobbled, but much like how football teams don't carry expensive 3rd string QBs, you can't drop that kind of money on your 3rd guard. I'm not sure there will be a big/any S&T market for him, but if Marks can get some value for him he will.

Jordan has clearly lost his influence with the arrival of Harden, and he permanently resides in the dog house. If he can be traded for somebody else's trash that we think could contribute (see Kemba/Horford, Mozgov/Howard), we'll do it. A buy out would not shock me either, although I am not sure how much DJ can recoup on the open market.

Chiozza, TLC & Perry are obviously upgradable.

Joe Harris is Mr. Bubble. I'm sure there will be interest in him around the league, but teams will play hardball thinking he will be traded as our scapegoat. You can't deal him just for the sake of dealing him. He is too good most of the time to give away. If you can package him with DJ or Dinwiddie to bring in somebody's higher priced talented salary dump, that could be intriguing.

As far as FAs go, expect minimum type ring chasing vets to fill out the end of the bench. Guys like Redick, Temple, McGee, Millsap, etc.

[Prokorov]

Next year's roster:
Locked in: KD, Harden, Kyrie, Shamet, Claxton, Alize

Resign if possible (raise needed, by order of importance): Griffin, Brown, Green

Resign if possible (minimum type deals): TJ, Mike James

Trade Bait Bubble: Joe Harris

Trade Bait/Dump/Walk: DJ, Dinwiddie

Not retained: Chiozza, TLC, Perry (2way Bubble)

Thought process: You keep guys on rookie & near minimum deals that you're unlikely to find better options at that dollar value. You're better of with guys familiar with your system than similar or worse players from the outside.

Dinwiddie is cost prohibitive as a tertiary ball handler. Yes we really needed him with Kyrie down & Harden hobbled, but much like how football teams don't carry expensive 3rd string QBs, you can't drop that kind of money on your 3rd guard. I'm not sure there will be a big/any S&T market for him, but if Marks can get some value for him he will.

Jordan has clearly lost his influence with the arrival of Harden, and he permanently resides in the dog house. If he can be traded for somebody else's trash that we think could contribute (see Kemba/Horford, Mozgov/Howard), we'll do it. A buy out would not shock me either, although I am not sure how much DJ can recoup on the open market.

Chiozza, TLC & Perry are obviously upgradable.

Joe Harris is Mr. Bubble. I'm sure there will be interest in him around the league, but teams will play hardball thinking he will be traded as our scapegoat. You can't deal him just for the sake of dealing him. He is too good most of the time to give away. If you can package him with DJ or Dinwiddie to bring in somebody's higher priced talented salary dump, that could be intriguing.

As far as FAs go, expect minimum type ring chasing vets to fill out the end of the bench. Guys like Redick, Temple, McGee, Millsap, etc.

sign and trade hard caps us right? if so it would need to be a big deal for a big name id think... otherwise we cripple our ability to add anyone else to the roster.

[MGrand15]

This 5-out stuff just isn't true. We leaned on it when our offense struggled but Bruce Brown still played basically all of G7. The staff avoided playing Brown + Claxton together for obvious reasons.

brown only played because green was slow after game 5 with the foot injury. its why green was limited game 7. He really had no other option a F who could shoot.

I think Joe is gone. 100%. He's our only trade chip. We can move him for 2 rotation players and beef up our depth. We already know he's not built for this. He was pathetic against the Bucks. All of that aside - his shooting is nice but we need a better defender in the starting lineup. Our defense was solid in the playoffs somehow but there's no excuse for KD to be the primary defender on superstars. Joe got completely cooked on defense.

I dont know what role player you expect who will do any better then joe. maybe we need a better defender, but the list of role defenders who can shoot is super small, and alot of them also stunk in big moments. basically, there is covington or reddick. im not sure Joe gets you either.

Claxton should be the starter next year. I hope he takes bulking up seriously this offseason. If Blake is willing to stay, I'm cool with the center rotation. If Blake leaves, we've got to sign someone.

I think claxton is more likely to be traded then start. i agree he should start

By your logic, he would've played Shamet over Brown because he only plays 5 out. He didn't. We have a full season sample size - the coaching staff is fine playing 1 non-shooter. They're uncomfortable playing 2 non-shooters. When offense turns into a problem - they lean towards 5 out but it's not set in stone.

Covington or Redick? And you're not sure if Joe Harris is enough to trade for them? Don't know how to respond to that. You're way off on the trade market. 70 players shot 39% from 3 or better. There's a ton of guys out there. And they don't need to be 1 for 1 better than Joe. We can trade him for 2 players that fit better with what we need.

Zero chance Claxton gets traded. Low salary young rotation guys like Shamet and Clax are incredibly valuable on our team.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Dinwiddie is the biggest priority to me because of how fragile Kyrie and Harden are.

The question to me is how much does he really get on the open market?

PGs are a dime a dozen in the current NBA. Who really needs a PG right now?

Also he hasn't played in a year anyway.

If I'm Marks I try to find a way to get him back.

Bruce Brown might be the one to go. I think he gets a nice deal and it won't be worth it to match it.

After that, you try to bring back Griffin and Green on minimum deals.

I would also look for a big man on a minimum. Either Dwight or McGee would work.

PJ Tucker would be a great add as well.

MLE we can use on best player available ideally. Anyone who we can use off the bench.

Harris has to go in my view. Use him to get a more traditional 3 and D type player. Who we can trust in the playoffs.

I know teams would still love to have him. So he has value.

[HardenGoat]

Sign big 3
Must keeps (fit and glue guys) Blake, Brown, Green
Upgrade backup guard: Dragic
3-D wing: Tucker
Center: I really like Olynyk as he can play 4/5 even in small ball - not sure how feasible it is though
Claxton stays and develops more with more minutes
Backup (Howard)
Dinwiddie - sign and trade otherwise he walks, Joe Tsai now has around 13 billion - he must do it, I insist
I would try to get Kelly Oubre this way, he is a great defensive wing

(everyone not named above is expendable as long as we get our players - yes that includes Harris)

Durant
Harden
Irving - Dragic
Griffin - Green - Brown
Olynyk - Claxton - Howard
Oubre - Tucker

[Claud]

Resign the big 3 ASAP if possible.

Surround the big 3 with a vet 3&D type wing that can hit pressure shots + quality Center that can rebound/play D/Switch on D/Not be a ZERO on offense.

If possible resign Blake/Green/Brown/Dinwiddie for quality depth.

Be open to acquiring a more experienced head coach. Not sure we can wait on Nash to figure it out.. our window is now.

Try to move DJ for ANYTHING if he's not playing any minutes going forward.

Players to keep an eye on: Ibaka, PJ Tucker, Derozan, Otto Porter, Milsap, Harrell.

The good thing is that we'll start out training camp with the big 3 + the core will have had more time together to get on the same page.

The truth is that next season will ultimately come down to the same variable as this one: HEALTH.

Can we get lucky for 1 **** season and avoid major injuries to key players at the worst possible times?

If the big 3 stays healthy we win the chip it's that simple.

[Tha King]

Otto Porter is a FA as a 3+D wing option. Big forward that's a career 40% three point shooter with solid ancillary playmaking and good defense. Torrey Craig, Tony Snell, and James Ennis are also FAs.

[TheBrooklynKidd]

Here is my ideal off season:

1) Sign the Big 3 to extensions ASAP. The last thing this team needs is any sort of free agency speculation.

2) Aggregate or dump Deandre Jordan. The payroll is far too expensive to pay an oversized cheerleader $10 mill per year.

3) Re-sign Dinwiddie. If Dinwiddie plays against the Bucks I’m pretty sure we beat them. Worst case scenario he becomes a trade asset.

4) Explore the Joe Harris trade market. He makes too much money for someone who is a one dimensional offensive player come playoff time.

5) Re-sign Jeff Green and Bruce Brown at whatever cost necessary but only re-sign Blake at the minimum.

6) Go after PJ Tucker using the MLE. Sign JJ Reddick to replace Joe Harris and grab 1 or 2 centers in case Claxton isn’t ready to start.

[Prokorov]

By your logic, he would've played Shamet over Brown because he only plays 5 out. He didn't. We have a full season sample size - the coaching staff is fine playing 1 non-shooter. They're uncomfortable playing 2 non-shooters. When offense turns into a problem - they lean towards 5 out but it's not set in stone.

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Shamet cant play power forward. if they had another jeff green type option, brown wouldnt have been out there.

Covington or Redick? And you're not sure if Joe Harris is enough to trade for them? Don't know how to respond to that. You're way off on the trade market.

Covington is one of the best, most coveted 3 and D guys in the league. Reddick doesnt matter in this case, since he is a free agent. The Blazers traded 2 first rounders and an expiring and took on salary for covington. I dont think Harris gets you covington. especially with portland maybe shaking up their stars, they will want to keep an elite 2-way role guy.

70 players shot 39% from 3 or better. There's a ton of guys out there. And they don't need to be 1 for 1 better than Joe. We can trade him for 2 players that fit better with what we need.

Joe wasnt a 39% three point shooter... he was closer to 49% while shooting an extremely high volume. when you lok at that list of 70 guys, it widdles down pretty quick:

14 or so of those guys are all-stars or better (Lavine, Middleton, Conley, Heyward, George, Randle, Brown, Lowry, Vucevic, Kawhi, Paul, Jrue, etc..)
-4 of those guys are already on the team (Harris, KD, Kyrie, Green)
-17 of those players are free agents and can not be traded for

That is half the list right there. leaving 35 left. of those remaining 35, 2 are centers (portis/markanen) and a bunch of PF/C types (Marcus Morris, Jaymychel green). then of the reamining 19 of those guys tool less then 3.5 attempts per game. of that remaining 35 you also have older guys like carmello, wayne ellington, etc.

So once you get past the guys we either cant trade for, or who are stars we could never get, your choices are trading joe for a big man who can shoot threes 10% worse on fewer attempts or end of the bench types like Michael mulder and damian Lee.

So you can either keep harris, or trade him for the wayne ellingtons and grayson allens, and Kent Bazemores of the world who are no less likely to stink in the playoffs and dont even have the playoff resumre that joe does.

Zero chance Claxton gets traded. Low salary young rotation guys like Shamet and Clax are incredibly valuable on our team.

Marks isnt going to leave a valuable trade chip on the bench during year 2 of a 3 year title window if the team isnt going to play him. i dont think he iwll be traded, i said, its more lilely he is traded then he stars... i think he is going to play the same role next year. 8-14 minutes behind blake and jeff green

[Prokorov]

Dinwiddie is the biggest priority to me because of how fragile Kyrie and Harden are.

The question to me is how much does he really get on the open market?

PGs are a dime a dozen in the current NBA. Who really needs a PG right now?

Also he hasn't played in a year anyway.

If I'm Marks I try to find a way to get him back.

Dinwiddie will go for the biggest paycheck. at 6'6" with 20 ppg scoring ability someone will view him not as a PG but as a combo guard either to start or be a super 6th man. Someone will pay him. wether we match or do what it takes to keep him will be the story of the offseason. it seems unlikely they keep him long term, but something that keeps him hear for a year and trade him later i can see.

Bruce Brown might be the one to go. I think he gets a nice deal and it won't be worth it to match it.

i dont see any non-shooters who are elgible to leave or be waived staying. i love brown, but that isnt the teams philosiphy. they also would have a cheaper option in alize johnson.

After that, you try to bring back Griffin and Green on minimum deals.

Green i think stays. he has voice that he wants too. Griffin intrigues me. i think of him like Ibaka. he has options on most contenders, does he stay here or go to another contender for more money. i dont think we would pay him more then the MLE.

I would also look for a big man on a minimum. Either Dwight or McGee would work.

I dont think they want those types. they didnt seem to pursue that type during the year and claxton kind of got buried once blake and LMA got here. i think someone more like dedmon... or if we did trade harris, maybe they would do it for like Temple and Markanen?

PJ Tucker would be a great add as well.

MLE we can use on best player available ideally. Anyone who we can use off the bench.

I think PJ would be great, but i think he would cost all or a portion of the MLE. i dont think after this run he is a minimum guy.

Harris has to go in my view. Use him to get a more traditional 3 and D type player. Who we can trust in the playoffs. I know teams would still love to have him. So he has value.

I just dont know that the player you are describing exsists... the list to me is 1 guy. Covington. and portland paid a good price to get him. outside of him, i dont see who we could even target that isnt significantly better or worse. If we trade joe, i think it would have to be to fill another need and just trust shamet. or go after reddick:

-sign reddick
-trade Harris + this years pick for Temple+markannen?

[Prokorov]

Otto Porter is a FA as a 3+D wing option. Big forward that's a career 40% three point shooter with solid ancillary playmaking and good defense. Torrey Craig, Tony Snell, and James Ennis are also FAs.

Hard pass. 3 & D guy that doesnt play D, plague with injuries and a big ego who cant be counted on.

we dodged a bullet the first time we tried to get him

[3pt_chucker]

I won't feel comfortable about anything Nets going forward as long as Nash is HC. Unless he makes a massive jump next season, he will always hold this team back from reaching its potential even if all 3 stars are healthy.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I would 1000x rather have Reddick than Harris to be honest.

We all know hes dying to come to Brooklyn to live in his apartment there. And I doubt he commands much on the open market.

I would just trade Harris for defensive help. It doesn't even have to be like a great 3 and D guy. Just someone who can defend and occasionally hit a 3. Even if not at a great clip.

I would look at add Royce O'Neal or Derrick White. Maybe Lonzo Ball even? Danny Green? Marcus Smart?

But I doubt they trade Harris. They probably bring him back and convince themselves he can improve.