The Official Ben 10 Simmons Thread

[LewisnotMiller]

New day, new era has me excited for the future of the Nets organization.

One thing that doesn’t get mentioned enough regarding the mental issues with Simmons, is the players he had around him in Philly. Honestly, look at their locker room, where is the veteran leadership coming from? Embiid is a clown and acts like a child, Harris doesn’t seem like the outspoken type, Danny Green might have some leadership to him - due to his championships I guess, and Shake Milton (local kid that I coached against that I can’t say a bad word about) is very quiet, and doesn’t have the leader role in him. And, Doc Rivers. Enough said.

My point is getting Simmons in the Nets locker room around Kevin, Kyrie, Patty, LMA, Blake, Joe, and James Johnson who all have substance of leadership to them. That’s going to be HUGE for Ben who still at an age where he is vulnerable and subjective to his surroundings.

You see it on social media, you hear it on Podcast there is a lot of toxicity over in Philly. I’m not here to act like things are glamorous in BKN (based on the losing skid) but a key attribute that doesn’t get mentioned enough is the team has a high quality of veteran leadership and how it will be a key component to Simmons development over time.

Outside of the game of basketball, I’m excited to see his growth and development under the aforementioned players in the current locker room. I’m so ready for the Nets to get back to winning and having fun in the process.

Your Patty Mills signing looks even better now. Just the perfect guy to give Simmons support and leadership off the court.

[MrDollarBills]

Hope the reports of his psychological struggles with the Sixers have been overblown by his handlers & the media, and that he'll be ready to play in a week or two. Patty has already committed to helping Ben settle in with the team, and Ben himself had already paid his respects to the Alpha soon after the trade was announced.

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Oh, and I hope he and Blake will already be past any awkwardness/tension due to the Kendall Jenner connection.

Nothing wrong with being Eskimo brothers.

[MrDollarBills]

I followed philthy for some time now. You have to take into account several facts when you say stuff like that.
1. They never cared about developing players
2. Coaching was abysmal to say least. Hopefully we will fire Stave Trash this off-season and get Ben acclimated into our development system. Guy like JV or Walton can improve him and take his talents to another level.

I expect his numbers to bloom quickly.

This isn't true at all?

After the first Boston series, all the players were given assignments to improve in the summer by Brett Brown and the Sixers staff. Ben and his camp rejected those task and informed the team they would do their own thing.

Team challenged Ben to improve and develop his weak points several times and always tried to acomodate to him , to the point we didn't resign players or fired coaches to keep him happy.

Your system and roster is better suited for Ben than ours, but i also hopes this experience makes Ben understand he really need to adress several things and improve on then, having people like Patty around him can make him understand this and i seriously hope he does.

Yeah i don't think it's fair for any Net fan to trash the Sixers coaches regarding Ben. We don't know what went on behind the scenes.

The hope is, being here and being around KD and seeing his work habits and being with Patty, who is just an amazing person never mind player, will give Ben a push in the right direction.

We don't need him to be someone who he isn't. We need him to play to his strengths and get his FTs back up to the 60s range percentage wise. Let KD handle the rest.

[GTR11]

I followed philthy for some time now. You have to take into account several facts when you say stuff like that.
1. They never cared about developing players
2. Coaching was abysmal to say least. Hopefully we will fire Stave Trash this off-season and get Ben acclimated into our development system. Guy like JV or Walton can improve him and take his talents to another level.

I expect his numbers to bloom quickly.

This isn't true at all?

After the first Boston series, all the players were given assignments to improve in the summer by Brett Brown and the Sixers staff. Ben and his camp rejected those task and informed the team they would do their own thing.

Team challenged Ben to improve and develop his weak points several times and always tried to acomodate to him , to the point we didn't resign players or fired coaches to keep him happy.

Your system and roster is better suited for Ben than ours, but i also hopes this experience makes Ben understand he really need to adress several things and improve on then, having people like Patty around him can make him understand this and i seriously hope he does.

Yeah i don't think it's fair for any Net fan to trash the Sixers coaches regarding Ben. We don't know what went on behind the scenes.

The hope is, being here and being around KD and seeing his work habits and being with Patty, who is just an amazing person never mind player, will give Ben a push in the right direction.

We don't need him to be someone who he isn't. We need him to play to his strengths and get his FTs back up to the 60s range percentage wise. Let KD handle the rest.

It's all pure bs. Let them explain how RoCo developed into player he is after he left, what about stagnation of MCW after rookie year? Noel? They had internal chaos going and s*** wasn't going right till Jimmy trade. Well you know rest, apparently wanted Jimmy was issue for Ben , while Ben went full Kardashian on them.

They have 0 development to speak about. Just listen what he said, they said go develope? Is this crap is real?

You know what development looks like? D.LO, Dinwiddie, Joe Harris etc players we got.

Take that fat bum with you and hope we won't meet in a first round. We'll see y'all soon.

[MGrand15]

I think Philly and Ben share a lot of blame for how things ultimately went down. Philly early on gave Ben too much power and once they started pushing back on him, he broke down. Not going to defend that or blame Embiid (even though he crossed a line post game when they got eliminated) or blame Doc. This was years in the making.

Either way, anyone that comes here gets a fresh start. Our focus on development is strong. Media and fan pressure is a lot chiller than Philly. Kyrie and KD have a reputation as difficult players but with the Nets, they've been incredibly positive and empowering as teammates. They also put Ben as the no doubt 3rd option. In Philly, there was always some friction about roles and the hierarchy.

[TheNetsFan]

This isn't true at all?

After the first Boston series, all the players were given assignments to improve in the summer by Brett Brown and the Sixers staff. Ben and his camp rejected those task and informed the team they would do their own thing.

Team challenged Ben to improve and develop his weak points several times and always tried to acomodate to him , to the point we didn't resign players or fired coaches to keep him happy.

Your system and roster is better suited for Ben than ours, but i also hopes this experience makes Ben understand he really need to adress several things and improve on then, having people like Patty around him can make him understand this and i seriously hope he does.

Yeah i don't think it's fair for any Net fan to trash the Sixers coaches regarding Ben. We don't know what went on behind the scenes.

The hope is, being here and being around KD and seeing his work habits and being with Patty, who is just an amazing person never mind player, will give Ben a push in the right direction.

We don't need him to be someone who he isn't. We need him to play to his strengths and get his FTs back up to the 60s range percentage wise. Let KD handle the rest.

It's all pure bs. Let them explain how RoCo developed into player he is after he left, what about stagnation of MCW after rookie year? Noel? They had internal chaos going and s*** wasn't going right till Jimmy trade. Well you know rest, apparently wanted Jimmy was issue for Ben , while Ben went full Kardashian on them.

They have 0 development to speak about. Just listen what he said, they said go develope? Is this crap is real?

You know what development looks like? D.LO, Dinwiddie, Joe Harris etc players we got.

Take that fat bum with you and hope we won't meet in a first round. We'll see y'all soon.

You forgot to mention Okafor and Fultz. Philly has had so many high potential players that they somehow destroy.

[Marvin Martian]

I followed philthy for some time now. You have to take into account several facts when you say stuff like that.
1. They never cared about developing players
2. Coaching was abysmal to say least. Hopefully we will fire Stave Trash this off-season and get Ben acclimated into our development system. Guy like JV or Walton can improve him and take his talents to another level.

I expect his numbers to bloom quickly.

This isn't true at all?

After the first Boston series, all the players were given assignments to improve in the summer by Brett Brown and the Sixers staff. Ben and his camp rejected those task and informed the team they would do their own thing.

Team challenged Ben to improve and develop his weak points several times and always tried to acomodate to him , to the point we didn't resign players or fired coaches to keep him happy.

Your system and roster is better suited for Ben than ours, but i also hopes this experience makes Ben understand he really need to adress several things and improve on then, having people like Patty around him can make him understand this and i seriously hope he does.

Yeah i don't think it's fair for any Net fan to trash the Sixers coaches regarding Ben. We don't know what went on behind the scenes.

The hope is, being here and being around KD and seeing his work habits and being with Patty, who is just an amazing person never mind player, will give Ben a push in the right direction.

We don't need him to be someone who he isn't. We need him to play to his strengths and get his FTs back up to the 60s range percentage wise. Let KD handle the rest.

I disagree. Simmons is a reclamation project, He is not going to be an easy plug and play like Harden was. I saw another post seeing him as a Draymond Green. I have watched Green over the years, and he was never scared of taking an open shot, no matter how bad he is at shooting or finishing. Green is on another level when it comes to offensive IQ. Simmons on the other hand, routinely passes up open 3s and open dunks. That guy is not going to win you a championship. He has a massive confidence problem, and it needs to fixed, sooner rather than later

[Rich Rane]

Hope the reports of his psychological struggles with the Sixers have been overblown by his handlers & the media, and that he'll be ready to play in a week or two. Patty has already committed to helping Ben settle in with the team, and Ben himself had already paid his respects to the Alpha soon after the trade was announced.

Read on Twitter

Oh, and I hope he and Blake will already be past any awkwardness/tension due to the Kendall Jenner connection.

Nothing wrong with being Eskimo brothers.

Watch on YouTube

[MrDollarBills]

This isn't true at all?

After the first Boston series, all the players were given assignments to improve in the summer by Brett Brown and the Sixers staff. Ben and his camp rejected those task and informed the team they would do their own thing.

Team challenged Ben to improve and develop his weak points several times and always tried to acomodate to him , to the point we didn't resign players or fired coaches to keep him happy.

Your system and roster is better suited for Ben than ours, but i also hopes this experience makes Ben understand he really need to adress several things and improve on then, having people like Patty around him can make him understand this and i seriously hope he does.

Yeah i don't think it's fair for any Net fan to trash the Sixers coaches regarding Ben. We don't know what went on behind the scenes.

The hope is, being here and being around KD and seeing his work habits and being with Patty, who is just an amazing person never mind player, will give Ben a push in the right direction.

We don't need him to be someone who he isn't. We need him to play to his strengths and get his FTs back up to the 60s range percentage wise. Let KD handle the rest.

I disagree. Simmons is a reclamation project, He is not going to be an easy plug and play like Harden was. I saw another post seeing him as a Draymond Green. I have watched Green over the years, and he was never scared of taking an open shot, no matter how bad he is at shooting or finishing. Green is on another level when it comes to offensive IQ. Simmons on the other hand, routinely passes up open 3s and open dunks. That guy is not going to win you a championship. He has a massive confidence problem, and it needs to fixed, sooner rather than later

He gets a clean slate here. Simmons is not Draymond Green, he is Ben Simmons. I don't want Simmons passing up dunks, but I could care less about him shooting open threes. I want rebounds, defense, assists and transition opportunities.

[Murray_17]

It's all pure bs. Let them explain how RoCo developed into player he is after he left, what about stagnation of MCW after rookie year? Noel? They had internal chaos going and s*** wasn't going right till Jimmy trade. Well you know rest, apparently wanted Jimmy was issue for Ben , while Ben went full Kardashian on them.

This show you don't know what you what you're talking about

RoCo had his best statisticals years and made the all defensive team on the Sixers, MCW was traded just after his rookie season and we were the third seed just before the Jimmy season

They have 0 development to speak about. Just listen what he said, they said go develope? Is this crap is real?

I said that they assigned each player areas of development in the offseason, every club does this, genius

You know what development looks like? D.LO, Dinwiddie, Joe Harris etc players we got.

Not sure if serious

Take that fat bum with you and hope we won't meet in a first round. We'll see y'all soon.

Good luck, i have no bad desires to you or your team, i never came here to fight or anything just trying to bring a different perspective.

It seems you cannot have that kind of discusion, so whatever, i really hope Ben does good for your team

[Keith Van Horn]

Alright, I'm ready to accept Ben now. I think it was pretty cool for him to choose 10 as his number too.

I'm just livid that things went so south with Harden and the guys, and I don't blame Harden in the slightest for anything. I mean, how typical of the Nets to land 3 players like KD, Kyrie, and Harden, all of whom looked tremendous when at their peak with us. And then to have them only play 16 games together and for it to end like this. You can't make that up.

I'm excited now that we're here with Ben, Seth, and Andre. Hoping they can put some serious work in to get things turned around. Hoping that Joe makes it back sometime this season. Hoping that KD doesn't miss a beat and goes back to his MVP form. Won't hold my breath for Kyrie because he's a non factor to me. The whole notion of him being a "part-time" player doesn't sit well with me.

It's an uphill battle though, both for Ben ramping up and getting back into form, and then for us to dig out of this massive crater we're in. Jesus, a 12.... TWELVE GAME losing streak.

Let's go Nets.

[XtremeDunkz]

I think Ben is a POS personally. Maybe he turned it around over the summer but that would be unrealistic.

For those that don't know, during Brett Browns tenure as coach, he got so frustrated with Ben's lack of offense that he publicly challenged him in a pre game press conference to shoot one 3 per game for the rest of the season.

Ben took ZERO 3 pointers the rest of the year.

Brett and then Doc both publicly coddled him daily saying things like "his shooting doesn't matter because he does everything else great " which I see Nash is already putting out there. It's like groundhog day to me. Not sure how anyone could expect a different outcome.

Great defender, great transition passer. But 100% a negative in half court offense. Will clog the paint and his defender will cheat off of him every time down the floor. Makes everyone else's job harder.

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[Hello Brooklyn]

I think Ben is a POS personally. Maybe he turned it around over the summer but that would be unrealistic.

For those that don't know, during Brett Browns tenure as coach, he got so frustrated with Ben's lack of offense that he publicly challenged him in a pre game press conference to shoot one 3 per game for the rest of the season.

Ben took ZERO 3 pointers the rest of the year.

Brett and then Doc both publicly coddled him daily saying things like "his shooting doesn't matter because he does everything else great " which I see Nash is already putting out there. It's like groundhog day to me. Not sure how anyone could expect a different outcome.

Great defender, great transition passer. But 100% a negative in half court offense. Will clog the paint and his defender will cheat off of him every time down the floor. Makes everyone else's job harder.

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Ben also fit horribly with Embiid. They both could only score in the paint.

Hes never really played with a talented perimeter player like KD or Kyrie.

[XtremeDunkz]

I think Ben is a POS personally. Maybe he turned it around over the summer but that would be unrealistic.

For those that don't know, during Brett Browns tenure as coach, he got so frustrated with Ben's lack of offense that he publicly challenged him in a pre game press conference to shoot one 3 per game for the rest of the season.

Ben took ZERO 3 pointers the rest of the year.

Brett and then Doc both publicly coddled him daily saying things like "his shooting doesn't matter because he does everything else great " which I see Nash is already putting out there. It's like groundhog day to me. Not sure how anyone could expect a different outcome.

Great defender, great transition passer. But 100% a negative in half court offense. Will clog the paint and his defender will cheat off of him every time down the floor. Makes everyone else's job harder.

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Ben also fit horribly with Embiid. They both could only score in the paint.

Hes never really played with a talented perimeter player like KD or Kyrie.

I mean saying Embiid can only score in the paint is flat out wrong but I think you know that.

Ben played with Jimmy, and Ben cried to the front office to get rid of Jimmy because he wanted the ball in his hands more.

Ben wants the ball in his hands surrounded by 4 shooters. That's the only way he'll ever be truly happy and have his full potential reached.

He'll play good soldier for a little while and stand in the dunker spot but that's all. It will be harder for Kyrie to drive the lane with Ben's man cheating over.

Again maybe I'm wrong and Ben is a changed man after his hold out, but I wouldn't bank on it.

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[Hello Brooklyn]

I think Ben is a POS personally. Maybe he turned it around over the summer but that would be unrealistic.

For those that don't know, during Brett Browns tenure as coach, he got so frustrated with Ben's lack of offense that he publicly challenged him in a pre game press conference to shoot one 3 per game for the rest of the season.

Ben took ZERO 3 pointers the rest of the year.

Brett and then Doc both publicly coddled him daily saying things like "his shooting doesn't matter because he does everything else great " which I see Nash is already putting out there. It's like groundhog day to me. Not sure how anyone could expect a different outcome.

Great defender, great transition passer. But 100% a negative in half court offense. Will clog the paint and his defender will cheat off of him every time down the floor. Makes everyone else's job harder.

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Ben also fit horribly with Embiid. They both could only score in the paint.

Hes never really played with a talented perimeter player like KD or Kyrie.

I mean saying Embiid can only score in the paint is flat out wrong but I think you know that.

Ben played with Jimmy, and Ben cried to the front office to get rid of Jimmy because he wanted the ball in his hands more.

Ben wants the ball in his hands surrounded by 4 shooters. That's the only way he'll ever be truly happy and have his full potential reached.

He'll play good soldier for a little while and stand in the dunker spot but that's all. It will be harder for Kyrie to drive the lane with Ben's man cheating over.

Again maybe I'm wrong and Ben is a changed man after his hold out, but I wouldn't bank on it.

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Embiid mostly scores near the rim. And is at his best there. Thats what I mean.

Ben does need the ball in his hands.

I don't think he has to be surrounded by shooters. But with other offensive stars who fit with him.

We don't need him to stand in the dunker spot. Kyrie is good at playing off ball. Like he did with Harden and LeBron.

[XtremeDunkz]

Ben also fit horribly with Embiid. They both could only score in the paint.

Hes never really played with a talented perimeter player like KD or Kyrie.

I mean saying Embiid can only score in the paint is flat out wrong but I think you know that.

Ben played with Jimmy, and Ben cried to the front office to get rid of Jimmy because he wanted the ball in his hands more.

Ben wants the ball in his hands surrounded by 4 shooters. That's the only way he'll ever be truly happy and have his full potential reached.

He'll play good soldier for a little while and stand in the dunker spot but that's all. It will be harder for Kyrie to drive the lane with Ben's man cheating over.

Again maybe I'm wrong and Ben is a changed man after his hold out, but I wouldn't bank on it.

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Embiid mostly scores near the rim. And is at his best there. Thats what I mean.

Ben does need the ball in his hands.

I don't think he has to be surrounded by shooters. But with other offensive stars who fit with him.

We don't need him to stand in the dunker spot. Kyrie is good at playing off ball. Like he did with Harden and LeBron.

Yeah but problem is Ben isn't a good half court PG. Great in transition, maybe best in the league. But against a set defender Ben is bad with the ball. He can't beat his man off the dribble so there's no drive and kick game.

You want Kyrie with the ball in those sets 100%. That's where the problem comes in. Can't put Ben in the corner because the D will just laugh. He HAS to sit dunker spot. Only place he's actually semi useful.

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[MrDollarBills]

I have no faith that this coaching staff will put Ben in a position to succeed

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what a banger of a scene. can this also be a scrubs appreciation thread now.

[Prokorov]

The Embiid comments about Ben "not having winning as his top priority" are comical. of course not. And that is the issue with tanking. it creates an entitled culture of losers. Embiid himself didnt prioritize winning until very recently.

Change of scenery should do some good, moving somewhere with other guys who get crucified in the media plus the aussies will only help

[Hello Brooklyn]

The Embiid comments about Ben "not having winning as his top priority" are comical. of course not. And that is the issue with tanking. it creates an entitled culture of losers. Embiid himself didnt prioritize winning until very recently.

Change of scenery should do some good, moving somewhere with other guys who get crucified in the media plus the aussies will only help

Ben gets blame for the Atlanta series. But also is scapegoated.

Where was Embiid in the last few minutes of Game 7? He didn't do ****. Let the game slip away.

Or in the Toronto series?

Hes never proven he can win in the playoffs either.