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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#41 » by Educator » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:48 pm

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Educator wrote:The Nets have very little chance of avoiding the play-in and a very good chance of getting eliminated in the play-in, especially if Kyrie can't play (or rather, is unwilling to play).

There are 23 games left. Durant and Simmons probably aren't playing in more than 20 of them. Kyrie is eligible for 8 of them right now. Time is up.

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Kyrie playing or not doesnt matter for the playin.

Nash being the coach or not is all that really matters. A real coach and it is a 100% lock we dont go 0-2 in a playin round


Of course Kyrie playing matters. And there's no guarantee the Nets stay 8th. Atlanta is only 2 games behind in the loss column. Charlotte and Washington are 3 games behind in the loss column. We're not talking about a series. We're talking about single games against these teams. The Nets could easily lose a single game to any one of them.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#42 » by GTR11 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:59 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I can see us getting eliminated in the play in tournament. After that, both Nash and Marks should be fired.

I agree with everyone that Marks messed up on the coaching hire, but that's not worth firing him over. We were an inch from the finals last year. He's continued to deliver on late draft picks & rebuilt the team from a total wasteland with no picks. There are not many GMs around the league that I would want over Marks. If you want to fire Marks, provide the viable alternative that you think will do better, because I can assure you that if he were available, 75% of the league would probably be ready to offer him a job.


Marks was Tsai hire and he apears to have all confidence in him. Only time he went to seek others opinion on team situation was during Kenny fiasco. Other than that we don't even hear from Tsai.

MDB has valid point. Managing egos is a huge problem with Marks. He created player friendly environment to the point they don't even listen to him. Even though he has more power/love from Tsai. Mishandling Kyrie and Harden is a stain he will never remove, only learning from it might help.

From the video I posted, them guys said Kyrie been rejected from signing extension. I really doubt that was Marks doing. More so Tsai, but that's just my guess for now.

This off-season will tell us a lot about our higherhy. I have no doubt Kyrie will let us know.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#43 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:41 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I can see us getting eliminated in the play in tournament. After that, both Nash and Marks should be fired.

I agree with everyone that Marks messed up on the coaching hire, but that's not worth firing him over. We were an inch from the finals last year. He's continued to deliver on late draft picks & rebuilt the team from a total wasteland with no picks. There are not many GMs around the league that I would want over Marks. If you want to fire Marks, provide the viable alternative that you think will do better, because I can assure you that if he were available, 75% of the league would probably be ready to offer him a job.



You're right, but him putting Nash in the coach's seat of this team is just self sabotage.

We all know how this season will end: Nash being taken to coaching school by Nick Nurse and the Nets not qualifying for the main playoff bracket
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#44 » by Prokorov » Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:07 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I can see us getting eliminated in the play in tournament. After that, both Nash and Marks should be fired.

I agree with everyone that Marks messed up on the coaching hire, but that's not worth firing him over. We were an inch from the finals last year. He's continued to deliver on late draft picks & rebuilt the team from a total wasteland with no picks. There are not many GMs around the league that I would want over Marks. If you want to fire Marks, provide the viable alternative that you think will do better, because I can assure you that if he were available, 75% of the league would probably be ready to offer him a job.


Marks hiring Nash is not a fireable offense. Marks refusing to replace Nash once it is obvious he is not qualified is a fireable offense. Marks has done a ton of good, but Nash undoes all of it for me.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#45 » by Prokorov » Fri Feb 18, 2022 8:08 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
Educator wrote:The Nets have very little chance of avoiding the play-in and a very good chance of getting eliminated in the play-in, especially if Kyrie can't play (or rather, is unwilling to play).

There are 23 games left. Durant and Simmons probably aren't playing in more than 20 of them. Kyrie is eligible for 8 of them right now. Time is up.

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Kyrie playing or not doesnt matter for the playin.

Nash being the coach or not is all that really matters. A real coach and it is a 100% lock we dont go 0-2 in a playin round


Of course Kyrie playing matters. And there's no guarantee the Nets stay 8th. Atlanta is only 2 games behind in the loss column. Charlotte and Washington are 3 games behind in the loss column. We're not talking about a series. We're talking about single games against these teams. The Nets could easily lose a single game to any one of them.


Kyrie doesnt matter. play or not we cant overcome Nash's incompetance. take a look at the portland game recently as a great example.

We arent beating anyone in a 1-game play in. 2 games, sure, we wont go 0-2. but if we are the 9 seed and just lose 1 and go home? yeah no chance nash coaches us to a win there
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#46 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:40 pm

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Kyrie playing or not doesnt matter for the playin.

Nash being the coach or not is all that really matters. A real coach and it is a 100% lock we dont go 0-2 in a playin round


Of course Kyrie playing matters. And there's no guarantee the Nets stay 8th. Atlanta is only 2 games behind in the loss column. Charlotte and Washington are 3 games behind in the loss column. We're not talking about a series. We're talking about single games against these teams. The Nets could easily lose a single game to any one of them.


Kyrie doesnt matter. play or not we cant overcome Nash's incompetance. take a look at the portland game recently as a great example.

We arent beating anyone in a 1-game play in. 2 games, sure, we wont go 0-2. but if we are the 9 seed and just lose 1 and go home? yeah no chance nash coaches us to a win there



I don't see us winning a play in game versus the Hornets or Hawks. Nash is just too inept. We have to win games relying on superhuman efforts. It's just too much.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#47 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Feb 18, 2022 10:45 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I can see us getting eliminated in the play in tournament. After that, both Nash and Marks should be fired.

I agree with everyone that Marks messed up on the coaching hire, but that's not worth firing him over. We were an inch from the finals last year. He's continued to deliver on late draft picks & rebuilt the team from a total wasteland with no picks. There are not many GMs around the league that I would want over Marks. If you want to fire Marks, provide the viable alternative that you think will do better, because I can assure you that if he were available, 75% of the league would probably be ready to offer him a job.


Marks hiring Nash is not a fireable offense. Marks refusing to replace Nash once it is obvious he is not qualified is a fireable offense. Marks has done a ton of good, but Nash undoes all of it for me.

Fire Nash mid season and elevating Vaughn or Vanderpool is not going to make a difference. If D'Antoni we're around or we had another proven successful coach on the bench, fine. We don't.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#48 » by GTR11 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:08 am

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TheNetsFan wrote:I agree with everyone that Marks messed up on the coaching hire, but that's not worth firing him over. We were an inch from the finals last year. He's continued to deliver on late draft picks & rebuilt the team from a total wasteland with no picks. There are not many GMs around the league that I would want over Marks. If you want to fire Marks, provide the viable alternative that you think will do better, because I can assure you that if he were available, 75% of the league would probably be ready to offer him a job.


Marks hiring Nash is not a fireable offense. Marks refusing to replace Nash once it is obvious he is not qualified is a fireable offense. Marks has done a ton of good, but Nash undoes all of it for me.

Fire Nash mid season and elevating Vaughn or Vanderpool is not going to make a difference. If D'Antoni we're around or we had another proven successful coach on the bench, fine. We don't.

I think it does. JV been ast for some time here with us and been under Kenny's mentorship for over three years. Saying he won't make difference doesn't make sense to me. We've seen him take over HC once Kenny left ( small sample size I know, yet I think he did good ). At the end of the day, my wild guess is that JV being groomed as future HC here by Marks ( we all know about he's developing approach ). At if this theory is right, time is now to act. Marks has more than enough data to see Trash's incompetence. I have no doubt media would actually support it. Perk, Buker etc talking heads already calling him mediocre.

Bottom line, we ain't losing here at all. We actually will set standard that mediocrity won't be tolerated here. I just don't see how getting rid of Steve Trash hurts us period. Just can't lose here.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#49 » by Netaman » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:43 pm

23 games left, lets say KD plays 16 of them (there are 4 back to backs and maybe he takes a few more games before returning).

I'd guess Simmons plays more than KD and pretty much stays in once they give him the green light.

Kyrie who knows, but he will be available for at least 2 of the back to backs even if the rules don't change.

so I'd guess they go 15-8, winning probably 11 or 12 of the games KD plays and going about .500 in the games he doesn't. They were 21-8 to start the year with no kyrie so this seems like a reasonable record to hit now (KD sat a few of those games too).

final record would be 46-36. 56% winning% would have been 6th seed last year behind hawks, 4 and 5 seeds were 10 games over .500 exactly but in fewer games.

the 6 seed probably gets milwaukee or philly round 1.

the highest i can see them getting is the 5 seed, which is possible because cleveland could fall back and that would still probably get one of milwaukee/philly.

the best opponent round 1 would be cleveland but it seems unlikely they will keep pace for the 3 seed with philly/milwaukee.
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Post#50 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:43 am

Some of you guys are dismissing how good Kevin Durant is. Were trash without him. Thats the main issue.

Were not losing a play in with KD. Plain and simple. He will will us to wins.

Hes rested and motivated/hugry.

We were basically beating the Bucks last year with KD/Kyrie and little to no help around them. Then KD almost took them out with no help. No Kyrie, 20% of Harden and with Joe Harris turning into Ben Simmons from 3.

If we get that KD again and have a full time Kyrie we have a legitimate shot at beating anyone.

Without a full time Kyrie then I don't see us beating the Bucks or Sixers.
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Post#51 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:01 am

At this point i want us to be at #8 and win a title ( first in NBA history as a team positioned #8 )
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Post#52 » by Prokorov » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:05 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Some of you guys are dismissing how good Kevin Durant is. Were trash without him. Thats the main issue.

Were not losing a play in with KD. Plain and simple. He will will us to wins.

Hes rested and motivated/hugry.

We were basically beating the Bucks last year with KD/Kyrie and little to no help around them. Then KD almost took them out with no help. No Kyrie, 20% of Harden and with Joe Harris turning into Ben Simmons from 3.

If we get that KD again and have a full time Kyrie we have a legitimate shot at beating anyone.

Without a full time Kyrie then I don't see us beating the Bucks or Sixers.


We had dantoni last year. now its just nash.

We lost to the blazers without 4 starters with KD AND Kyrie.

a 1 game playoff we'd be in big big trouble.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#53 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:17 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Some of you guys are dismissing how good Kevin Durant is. Were trash without him. Thats the main issue.

Were not losing a play in with KD. Plain and simple. He will will us to wins.

Hes rested and motivated/hugry.

We were basically beating the Bucks last year with KD/Kyrie and little to no help around them. Then KD almost took them out with no help. No Kyrie, 20% of Harden and with Joe Harris turning into Ben Simmons from 3.

If we get that KD again and have a full time Kyrie we have a legitimate shot at beating anyone.

Without a full time Kyrie then I don't see us beating the Bucks or Sixers.


We had dantoni last year. now its just nash.

We lost to the blazers without 4 starters with KD AND Kyrie.

a 1 game playoff we'd be in big big trouble.


LMAO. What exactly did Dantoni contribute?

It was just KD scoring 50 a night. There was no gameplan.

A regular season game vs the Blazers means nothing. Who cares?
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Post#54 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 21, 2022 3:52 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Some of you guys are dismissing how good Kevin Durant is. Were trash without him. Thats the main issue.

Were not losing a play in with KD. Plain and simple. He will will us to wins.

Hes rested and motivated/hugry.

We were basically beating the Bucks last year with KD/Kyrie and little to no help around them. Then KD almost took them out with no help. No Kyrie, 20% of Harden and with Joe Harris turning into Ben Simmons from 3.

If we get that KD again and have a full time Kyrie we have a legitimate shot at beating anyone.

Without a full time Kyrie then I don't see us beating the Bucks or Sixers.


We won't make it out of the play in tourney. Doesn't matter if Kyrie is playing or not. Nash has become an obstacle to big to overcome
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#55 » by GTR11 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Some of you guys are dismissing how good Kevin Durant is. Were trash without him. Thats the main issue.

Were not losing a play in with KD. Plain and simple. He will will us to wins.

Hes rested and motivated/hugry.

We were basically beating the Bucks last year with KD/Kyrie and little to no help around them. Then KD almost took them out with no help. No Kyrie, 20% of Harden and with Joe Harris turning into Ben Simmons from 3.

If we get that KD again and have a full time Kyrie we have a legitimate shot at beating anyone.

Without a full time Kyrie then I don't see us beating the Bucks or Sixers.


We won't make it out of the play in tourney. Doesn't matter if Kyrie is playing or not. Nash has become an obstacle to big to overcome

Damn that Wiz game broke your spirit :lol:

Have to side with HB here for several reasons like :
1. Addition of Dragic, guy is vet and actually a playmaker we needed. He won't have to win games, just be solid 12 pts 7 ast guy.
2. Ben gives us elite defender that'll reduce impact or may I say nullify oppositions best guy. Can he be groomed into Dray role? Seems like what Marks thinks. Well he at least hinted that.
3. Kyrie, if mandate going to be lifted in few weeks. Man we getting 50/40/90 guy.
4. You have to look at other teams and compare. Saltics for example, very thin and can't have no injuries. If one of their top seven have to miss time, it's over. They'll be Saltics that we've seen at the begging of the season, yes drop off is that significant. Craptors without FVV pretty bad team, if you have player like Ben limiting him, they in trouble.
5. Our experience, mean how many teams out there that can be compared to us. 2-4 teams maybe.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#56 » by GTR11 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:08 pm

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Game changer here. After Craptors b2b will have to update my predictions.
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Post#57 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:55 pm

Welp, Adams is a tool.

I guess it's my final update for seedings as I see it:
1. Heat vs 8. Craptors
4. Bucks vs 5. Soltics -> feel free to toss them around.
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2. Philthy vs 7. BK -> give me that fluke trash.
3. Bulls vs 6. Cavs


Look at the schedule, this is most likeliest outcome in my opinion. Than again, Philthy might tank it for seeding reasons. Baking on us losing to Craptors is silly.
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Post#58 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:31 pm

GTR11 wrote:Welp, Adams is a tool.

I guess it's my final update for seedings as I see it:
1. Heat vs 8. Craptors
4. Bucks vs 5. Soltics -> feel free to toss them around.
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2. Philthy vs 7. BK -> give me that fluke trash.
3. Bulls vs 6. Cavs


Look at the schedule, this is most likeliest outcome in my opinion. Than again, Philthy might tank it for seeding reasons. Baking on us losing to Craptors is silly.


After tonight we will be essentially 4 games behind the raptors (3 games in the standings but they own the tiebreaker, making it 4 games).

if they go 11-10 in their final 21 games (reasonable given they have a bunch vs scrubs like olrando, detroit, etc left). we would need to go 14-5 in our final 19 to overtake them.

I don't see how we go 14-5 with a remaining schedule of:

heat, boston, charlotte philly, knicks, mavs, jazz, heat, hornets, bucks, hawks, cavs.... i mean we have 4 or 5 cream puffs but we basically need to run the table.

if toronto goes 13-8 we basically have no shot.
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Re: Playoff seeding predictions 

Post#59 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 10:06 pm

Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Welp, Adams is a tool.

I guess it's my final update for seedings as I see it:
1. Heat vs 8. Craptors
4. Bucks vs 5. Soltics -> feel free to toss them around.
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2. Philthy vs 7. BK -> give me that fluke trash.
3. Bulls vs 6. Cavs


Look at the schedule, this is most likeliest outcome in my opinion. Than again, Philthy might tank it for seeding reasons. Baking on us losing to Craptors is silly.


After tonight we will be essentially 4 games behind the raptors (3 games in the standings but they own the tiebreaker, making it 4 games).

if they go 11-10 in their final 21 games (reasonable given they have a bunch vs scrubs like olrando, detroit, etc left). we would need to go 14-5 in our final 19 to overtake them.

I don't see how we go 14-5 with a remaining schedule of:

heat, boston, charlotte philly, knicks, mavs, jazz, heat, hornets, bucks, hawks, cavs.... i mean we have 4 or 5 cream puffs but we basically need to run the table.

if toronto goes 13-8 we basically have no shot.


Yes I pretty much admit the fact that we won't be able to catch Craptors for the 7th seed. Not only that, I say that ATL is a threat looking at their schedule and how they've been looking.

Now, stay with me here Prok. KD will be back next week. Week after, we will get another body in Ben Simmons, I'd say if we add them two... I think we good enough to maintain our 8 seed.

Hornets have issues. Lots of them, if I'm being nice. Thinking they will turn to be 96 Bulls or us is laughable.

ATL will be a team to watch now. All we can do for now.
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Post#60 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 2, 2022 1:12 am

GTR11 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Welp, Adams is a tool.

I guess it's my final update for seedings as I see it:
1. Heat vs 8. Craptors
4. Bucks vs 5. Soltics -> feel free to toss them around.
____________________________

2. Philthy vs 7. BK -> give me that fluke trash.
3. Bulls vs 6. Cavs


Look at the schedule, this is most likeliest outcome in my opinion. Than again, Philthy might tank it for seeding reasons. Baking on us losing to Craptors is silly.


After tonight we will be essentially 4 games behind the raptors (3 games in the standings but they own the tiebreaker, making it 4 games).

if they go 11-10 in their final 21 games (reasonable given they have a bunch vs scrubs like olrando, detroit, etc left). we would need to go 14-5 in our final 19 to overtake them.

I don't see how we go 14-5 with a remaining schedule of:

heat, boston, charlotte philly, knicks, mavs, jazz, heat, hornets, bucks, hawks, cavs.... i mean we have 4 or 5 cream puffs but we basically need to run the table.

if toronto goes 13-8 we basically have no shot.


Yes I pretty much admit the fact that we won't be able to catch Craptors for the 7th seed. Not only that, I say that ATL is a threat looking at their schedule and how they've been looking.

Now, stay with me here Prok. KD will be back next week. Week after, we will get another body in Ben Simmons, I'd say if we add them two... I think we good enough to maintain our 8 seed.

Hornets have issues. Lots of them, if I'm being nice. Thinking they will turn to be 96 Bulls or us is laughable.

ATL will be a team to watch now. All we can do for now.


Yeah I think we can hang on to #8, above you had nets as a #7, so i was responding to that.

The play in is really dangerous for us. 1 game anything can happen and last 2 seasons even with stars all 3 of the raps/hawks/hornets have had success vs us.

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