Shams: Dragic Signs w/ Nets

[_Und3r][D4wg_]

Right now, he's the best playmaker on our roster. If he can handle 15-24 minutes, then our offense even without the big guns should be good to go.

[GYK]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

[GTR11]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Sound like you salty. I don't see any redundancy here. Opposite is true, finally team got balanced and don't have to over use or be dependent on select players.

It's been beaten down to death why. Brown could've stop any trade, it's clear as day he wants to stay.

[MrDollarBills]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Not sure where the redundancy is here. We legit have no playmaking PGs on the roster outside of Dragic, and Ben is more of a point forward.

Kyrie =Elite scoring guard
KD = Elite scorer, defender
Ben= Elite defender, ball handler, rebounder, playmaker in transition

Dragic = playmaker at PG, decent shooting

Seth= Elite shooter
Patty= Elite shooter
Harris*= Elite shooter

AD= Rebounding, big body defensively
LMA = mid range and post scoring
Claxton = excellent switch defender, mild lob threat

Blake = defense, rebounding, inconsistent offense

Johnson = Big body defender, decent ball handler at forward

Cam= excellent mid range scorer and microwave scorer in training. Cold blooded and ruthless.

Bruce Brown = swiss army knife player, defender

Kessler Edwards = decent defense and rebounding, possible 3 + D at times but his shot has been off lately

Sharpe = Good rebounder and finisher

This roster right now is more balanced and better than what we had prior to the Harden trade. The pressure is now off of our rookies to have to produce. Guys like Edwards and Sharpe can sit back and learn, while guys like Cam can continue to feed off of playing with a solid group of veterans.

Sean Marks took a devastating blow from Harden and his poor roster construction to start the season and, at least on paper, has made this into a scary team if everything clicks.

[MrDollarBills]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Sound like you salty. I don't see any redundancy here. Opposite is true, finally team got balanced and don't have to over use or be dependent on select players.

It's been beaten down to death why. Brown could've stop any trade, it's clear as day he wants to stay.

Exactly, that and the fact that no one is going to trade a 3 + D wing for those two guys.

Brown has a fit here with the Nets. On another team he may not even see the floor because of his limitations. I can see Brown resigning here next season for the league minimum.

[NetsWorld]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Not sure where the redundancy is here. We legit have no playmaking PGs on the roster outside of Dragic, and Ben is more of a point forward.

Kyrie =Elite scoring guard
KD = Elite scorer, defender
Ben= Elite defender, ball handler, rebounder, playmaker in transition

Dragic = playmaker at PG, decent shooting

Seth= Elite shooter
Patty= Elite shooter
Harris*= Elite shooter

AD= Rebounding, big body defensively
LMA = mid range and post scoring
Claxton = excellent switch defender, mild lob threat

Blake = defense, rebounding, inconsistent offense

Johnson = Big body defender, decent ball handler at forward

Cam= excellent mid range scorer and microwave scorer in training. Cold blooded and ruthless.

Bruce Brown = swiss army knife player, defender

Kessler Edwards = decent defense and rebounding, possible 3 + D at times but his shot has been off lately

Sharpe = Good rebounder and finisher

This roster right now is more balanced and better than what we had prior to the Harden trade. The pressure is now off of our rookies to have to produce. Guys like Edwards and Sharpe can sit back and learn, while guys like Cam can continue to feed off of playing with a solid group of veterans.

Sean Marks took a devastating blow from Harden and his poor roster construction to start the season and, at least on paper, has made this into a scary team if everything clicks.

Eh...... Marks had to structure the damn roster with the idea that Bembry, Carter, Johnson and Brown would provide the defense around the offense of the big three and Kyrie quickly threw a lynchpin in that. Everyone was out for Nash all season but Kyrie was left off the hook when it came to messing up the rotations. I don't give a damn about what anyone here says, Kyrie was the domino effect which caused this team to go off rails and Harden was the second domino to follow courtesy of the drama queen. Nash/Marks had to work around all of that and deal with so much pressure. It's as obvious as day light who stirred this and it wasn't Nash. While I criticized and seethed at some of his calls, in hindsight, I blame Kyrie for all of this...... Including our near .500 record. Now it's time for him to show up second half and make up for it. I GUARANTEE when it's all said and done he will find another excuse not to play and will be let off the hook again; Please Marks get someone else over the Summer in place of him; the only resolve is his ass gets this team a damn ship. THAT'S IT!

[MrDollarBills]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Not sure where the redundancy is here. We legit have no playmaking PGs on the roster outside of Dragic, and Ben is more of a point forward.

Kyrie =Elite scoring guard
KD = Elite scorer, defender
Ben= Elite defender, ball handler, rebounder, playmaker in transition

Dragic = playmaker at PG, decent shooting

Seth= Elite shooter
Patty= Elite shooter
Harris*= Elite shooter

AD= Rebounding, big body defensively
LMA = mid range and post scoring
Claxton = excellent switch defender, mild lob threat

Blake = defense, rebounding, inconsistent offense

Johnson = Big body defender, decent ball handler at forward

Cam= excellent mid range scorer and microwave scorer in training. Cold blooded and ruthless.

Bruce Brown = swiss army knife player, defender

Kessler Edwards = decent defense and rebounding, possible 3 + D at times but his shot has been off lately

Sharpe = Good rebounder and finisher

This roster right now is more balanced and better than what we had prior to the Harden trade. The pressure is now off of our rookies to have to produce. Guys like Edwards and Sharpe can sit back and learn, while guys like Cam can continue to feed off of playing with a solid group of veterans.

Sean Marks took a devastating blow from Harden and his poor roster construction to start the season and, at least on paper, has made this into a scary team if everything clicks.

Eh...... Marks had to structure the damn roster with the idea that Bembry, Carter, Johnson and Brown would provide the defense around the offense of the big three and Kyrie quickly threw a lynchpin in that. Everyone was out for Nash all season but Kyrie was left off the hook when it came to messing up the rotations. I don't give a damn about what anyone here says, Kyrie was the domino effect which caused this team to go off rails and Harden was the second domino to follow courtesy of the drama queen. Nash/Marks had to work around all of that and deal with so much pressure. It's as obvious as day light who stirred this and it wasn't Nash. While I criticized and seethed at some of his calls, in hindsight, I blame Kyrie for all of this...... Including our near .500 record. Now it's time for him to show up second half and make up for it. I GUARANTEE when it's all said and done he will find another excuse not to play and will be let off the hook again; Please Marks get someone else over the Summer in place of him; the only resolve is his ass gets this team a damn ship. THAT'S IT!

Kyrie sabotaged the season with his refusal to get vaxxed. agreed.

all things considered though, Marks' reshaped this roster into something that might be better than we could have ever imagined at the start of the season.

[NetsWorld]

Not sure where the redundancy is here. We legit have no playmaking PGs on the roster outside of Dragic, and Ben is more of a point forward.

Kyrie =Elite scoring guard
KD = Elite scorer, defender
Ben= Elite defender, ball handler, rebounder, playmaker in transition

Dragic = playmaker at PG, decent shooting

Seth= Elite shooter
Patty= Elite shooter
Harris*= Elite shooter

AD= Rebounding, big body defensively
LMA = mid range and post scoring
Claxton = excellent switch defender, mild lob threat

Blake = defense, rebounding, inconsistent offense

Johnson = Big body defender, decent ball handler at forward

Cam= excellent mid range scorer and microwave scorer in training. Cold blooded and ruthless.

Bruce Brown = swiss army knife player, defender

Kessler Edwards = decent defense and rebounding, possible 3 + D at times but his shot has been off lately

Sharpe = Good rebounder and finisher

This roster right now is more balanced and better than what we had prior to the Harden trade. The pressure is now off of our rookies to have to produce. Guys like Edwards and Sharpe can sit back and learn, while guys like Cam can continue to feed off of playing with a solid group of veterans.

Sean Marks took a devastating blow from Harden and his poor roster construction to start the season and, at least on paper, has made this into a scary team if everything clicks.

Eh...... Marks had to structure the damn roster with the idea that Bembry, Carter, Johnson and Brown would provide the defense around the offense of the big three and Kyrie quickly threw a lynchpin in that. Everyone was out for Nash all season but Kyrie was left off the hook when it came to messing up the rotations. I don't give a damn about what anyone here says, Kyrie was the domino effect which caused this team to go off rails and Harden was the second domino to follow courtesy of the drama queen. Nash/Marks had to work around all of that and deal with so much pressure. It's as obvious as day light who stirred this and it wasn't Nash. While I criticized and seethed at some of his calls, in hindsight, I blame Kyrie for all of this...... Including our near .500 record. Now it's time for him to show up second half and make up for it. I GUARANTEE when it's all said and done he will find another excuse not to play and will be let off the hook again; Please Marks get someone else over the Summer in place of him; the only resolve is his ass gets this team a damn ship. THAT'S IT!

Kyrie sabotaged the season with his refusal to get vaxxed. agreed.

all things considered though, Marks' reshaped this roster into something that might be better than we could have ever imagined at the start of the season.

Also, if you go back to October, there was no way Marks prevented Kyrie from playing without KD's call. This shows to me that KD is willing to eventually let this guy go if it means winning championships. If Nets lose a series in the PO, the KD/Kyrie relationship will be done and you can say bye to Ky.

[Prokorov]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Where is the redundancy? The only place we have redundancy is off-ball three point shooting and that is the spot you really need redundancy. especially us with Joe Injured.

We actually have a ton of balance now. The one thing we lacked post-harden trade was a G who can run pick and roll. KD/Kyrie/Shooter flanking a pick and roll is near unstoppable. KD/Shooter flanking pick and roll with Kyrie on point is very good but not great offense.

Dragic was for sure a need. I'd be calling for Augustin, but this works too

[Prokorov]

I'm interested to see what dragic has left. he is 35+ and hasnt played much this year. Last year in miami was his worst season in 10 years. His 3pt shooting has wavered between avg and very good. He has good size for a PG and high IQ. I really dont know what version of dragic we get, but in any event it should be one worth having on the roster over Carter.

[Netaman]

In a worst case scenario where Kyrie gets hurt or goes awol again, Dragic can sort of play the Jason Kidd Mavs role if he's still close to the player he was last year. A respectable enough shooter from both 3/FT line and a playmaker capable of running the offense.

as much as the roster has changed i think it still makes the most sense to look at it the way Marks explained it when he and Atkinson first started building - ball handlers, wings, bigs. they have enough ball handlers now to keep KD on the wing and only handling the ball when necessary.

there's maybe an argument that upgrading Kessler's bigger wing spot was a bigger need than another ball handler but i'd disagree with that because Simmons' #1 priority is going to be as the top wing/on ball defender and imo all of the 3rd option ball handlers are better served playing on the wing, as is KD. Curry too. It would be great if Edwards can beat out JJ for that roster spot in the playoffs but it's not essential.

ball handlers -
1. Kyrie/Simmons?
2. Dragic
3. Mills / Brown / Cam

wing depth chart -
1. KD
2. Curry
3. Harris?
4. Mills / Brown / Cam
5. Edwards

bigs -
1. Drummond
2. LMA
3. Claxton
4. JJ
5. Sharpe

[MrDollarBills]

I'm interested to see what dragic has left. he is 35+ and hasnt played much this year. Last year in miami was his worst season in 10 years. His 3pt shooting has wavered between avg and very good. He has good size for a PG and high IQ. I really dont know what version of dragic we get, but in any event it should be one worth having on the roster over Carter.

I'll take 35 year old Dragic over Carter. The guy was a huge disappointment. At least we managed to get Sharpe out of the deal.

[Sharcm1]

I like this pick up. I think he brings more things the nets need at the back up point. Carter was a waste. I always felt like Marks went too far with changes this summer towards the defense and didn’t keep the three point shooters who made the offense work. Getting curry and getting dragic puts us more in the right direction with that. I also feel like dragic always made a huge impact against the nets whenever he played against them. Hopefully he can bring it here

[Hello Brooklyn]

What a weird signing. Do they just want intel on us?

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[Turk Nowitzki]

What a weird signing. Do they just want intel on us?

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Nah, we are hurting for guard depth and you guys signed the guy we wanted. After Dragic the options were pretty lacking.

[Hello Brooklyn]

What a weird signing. Do they just want intel on us?

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Nah, we are hurting for guard depth and you guys signed the guy we wanted. After Dragic the options were pretty lacking.

He is so bad. Anyone would have been better.

[Rich Rane]

Trade deadline summary:

Out
DeAndre' Bembry
Jevon Carter
James Harden
Paul Millsap

In
Seth Curry
Goran Dragic
Andre Drummond
Ben Simmons
2 First Round Picks

[Karate Diop]

What a weird signing. Do they just want intel on us?

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Nah, we are hurting for guard depth and you guys signed the guy we wanted. After Dragic the options were pretty lacking.

He is so bad. Anyone would have been better.

This might be the best part of the Dragic signing. Double whammy!

[ArksNetsSince99]

Trade deadline summary:

Out
DeAndre' Bembry
Jevon Carter
James Harden
Paul Millsap

In
Seth Curry
Goran Dragic
Andre Drummond
Ben Simmons
2 First Round Picks

I like it , all beside Bembry , wish he was still a Net ,otherwise i have a feeling we got way better plus some picks

[bubonicphoniks]

Lots of redundancy on this team.
Good players tho. Can’t argue against that. They are all quality players in the rotation now. Tho lots of 3 guard lineups. Ben/KD is an amazing defensive pairing but even they were flanked by Iggy/Klay/Shaun and bigs. Looking at the team I do see we are going for more of the Warriors handoff action style of play instead of the MDA PNR offense Harden/Suns/Jazz run. Which is fine.

Still can’t imagine why Carter/Bruce weren’t paired with 2nds to be traded for a 3&D wing. Makes very little sense to me but I guess only time will tell.

Where is the redundancy? The only place we have redundancy is off-ball three point shooting and that is the spot you really need redundancy. especially us with Joe Injured.

We actually have a ton of balance now. The one thing we lacked post-harden trade was a G who can run pick and roll. KD/Kyrie/Shooter flanking a pick and roll is near unstoppable. KD/Shooter flanking pick and roll with Kyrie on point is very good but not great offense.

Dragic was for sure a need. I'd be calling for Augustin, but this works too

Agreed. On paper this is the most balanced roster since the Joe Johnson days.