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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#41 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:18 pm

_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:Right now the theory of the Nets' assistant coaches being capable of doing a better job than Nash is being tested... Frankly, I'm not too optimistic.


It confirms the entire staff is incompetent, not that nash is tuning them out. explains why we constantly miss obvious challenges.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#42 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:23 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Just don't understand why we always get blown at home like this.

I get it if we lose. Were not good at all without the Big 3.

But why is it never close?


To me this is a combination of horrible coaching (you see so many teams play hungry short handed, we roll over and die) and the team probably super deflated with the idiotic mandate stuff lifted where kyrie can come to the arena and sit on the bench but not play.

He just willed them to a win over the reigning champs and then its like "he's back... oh wait psyche not really".

But really bad look for the assistant coaches. this is a team ahead of us by 1 game and we had the tiebreaker. a win and we are the 7 seed. They were missing their 2 best players. They were 1-4 with 4 embarassing losses coming in. we were at home.

Maybe we still lose, hard to win with none of the big 3. but to lose by 40 and get embarrassed like that... your team didnt show up, played with no passion, and no hunger and you did nothing to help them.

Vandrpool, keefe, harrington, vaughn should all submit their resignations last night. they clearly are scouting well, arent gameplaning well, arent helping nash with stuff in game like challenges. they all need to resign. that was so bad it actually made me feel bad for nash. sure he is super incompetant and not qualified, but marks gave him no support with dantoni gone either.

most unacceptable loss of the KD era. not the loss, but how it was a blowout from start to finish
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#43 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:25 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Just don't understand why we always get blown at home like this.

I get it if we lose. Were not good at all without the Big 3.

But why is it never close?


Right now? Because we're down our 4 best players... You take the Top 2 players off any team and they'll struggle, multiply that by 2 and well... What you see is what you get.

Doesn't make it any less frustrating, but it is what it is...


they were missing their top 2 players... they won by 40. thats not "struggling"
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#44 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:27 pm

Pablo Escobar wrote:Raps are well coached, and play hard every game. Even with a full roster the Nets just go through the motions at time and think since they have a talent advantage they can just turn on the switch. The entire coaching staff is ass and you had a checked out Harden to begin the year because of the flat earth anti vaxxer. It has been an odd season lol and not sure 20 games is enough to gel for a title run.


Yeah if someone is trying to tell me we win last night if KD and Kyrie played im laughing in your face.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#45 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:29 pm

KD35Netted wrote:We need Kyrie/KD back full time. When you have four starters, especially three stars out, it is never good for any team. Raptors came out with more energy because of the beatings they have been taking but they struggle mightily with FVF. Nets need to make a push now and stop losing already. Twenty games left, can we at least go 17-3?


We need to figure out the major issues beyond player availability.

We can say Kyrie/KD need to be back, which is obviously true, but the last time we saw that duo they were getting embarassed by a lillard-less, McCollum-less, Nance-less, Powell-less, tanking blazers team
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#46 » by MGrand15 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:31 pm

I can't believe we started the season 26-14 through 40 games.

We're 6-16 since. Only 1 W against a team over .500. Our net rating has to be embarrassingly low. It's legitimately almost impossible to collapse worse than this.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#47 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:32 pm

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_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:Raptors making it crystal clear why the Nets should be desperate about avoiding them in a one-&-gone duel at the play-in. :nonono:


I've been saying for weeks if we end up in a one and done play in scenario versus Toronto we will lose and fail to make the main playoff bracket

The fact that Kyrie is all but certain to not be available for that game pretty much seals our fate. We need him just as much as we do KD and Ben.


8 seed is not one and done. only the 9/10 game is one and done.

Winner of 7 vs. 8 = 7th seed.

Winner of 9 vs. 10 plays the loser of 7 vs. 8 and the winner of that = 8th seed.

Nets would need to lose to toronto and then Atlana/Charlotte. which is super possible anyhow
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Post#48 » by MGrand15 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:42 pm

Prokorov wrote:
_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:Right now the theory of the Nets' assistant coaches being capable of doing a better job than Nash is being tested... Frankly, I'm not too optimistic.


It confirms the entire staff is incompetent, not that nash is tuning them out. explains why we constantly miss obvious challenges.


This is partially why I haven't given Nash as much heat as you have.

Last year, we had D'Antoni + Udoka. We ran MDA's offense + rotations. Now we see with Boston that we ran Udoka's defense. They're running the same scheme we ran.

This year, IDK who is running things but it's clearly a mess top to bottom. I think Vanterpool must be in charge of the defense because we're overhelping more than we ever did with Kenny/JV or Udoka. Nash as the head coach deserves a lot of blame but all this stuff is a collaboration.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#49 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:46 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
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_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:Right now the theory of the Nets' assistant coaches being capable of doing a better job than Nash is being tested... Frankly, I'm not too optimistic.


It confirms the entire staff is incompetent, not that nash is tuning them out. explains why we constantly miss obvious challenges.


This is partially why I haven't given Nash as much heat as you have.

Last year, we had D'Antoni + Udoka. We ran MDA's offense + rotations. Now we see with Boston that we ran Udoka's defense. They're running the same scheme we ran.

This year, IDK who is running things but it's clearly a mess top to bottom. I think Vanterpool must be in charge of the defense because we're overhelping more than we ever did with Kenny/JV or Udoka. Nash as the head coach deserves a lot of blame but all this stuff is a collaboration.


Vanderpool always seemed checked out to me. YES usually talks to him out of half time and he always has this smirk like "dude IDGAF"

clearly thats based on nothing and speculation but thats the vibe i get from him
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#50 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:46 pm

Read on Twitter
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Call me delusional homer all y'all want. Just going to say that this lineup is a favorite vs any team.

Let me get that lineup fully healthy with Dragic, Mills, Brown and Blake as a subs, I say we spank any team without chemistry and coach.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#51 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 7:53 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=sYhLwaEdBuD5RQIwwyZcLg

Call me delusional homer all y'all want. Just going to say that this lineup is a favorite vs any team.

Let me get that lineup fully healthy with Dragic, Mills, Brown and Blake as a subs, I say we spank any team without chemistry and coach.


Agree.

at the same time, anyone who suits up should be able to avoid a 30-point loss just by playing hard and with pride.

after tonight, someone needs to fired:

VP, GM, Coach, Assistant, player, scout, strength/performance coach, equipment manager, ....someone...
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#52 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:04 pm

Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=sYhLwaEdBuD5RQIwwyZcLg

Call me delusional homer all y'all want. Just going to say that this lineup is a favorite vs any team.

Let me get that lineup fully healthy with Dragic, Mills, Brown and Blake as a subs, I say we spank any team without chemistry and coach.


Agree.

at the same time, anyone who suits up should be able to avoid a 30-point loss just by playing hard and with pride.

after tonight, someone needs to fired:

VP, GM, Coach, Assistant, player, scout, strength/performance coach, equipment manager, ....someone...

It's been reported that Tsai directly spoke to Adams about mandate. It's clearly political and I'm not sure how I can dance around without mentioning elections here. We clearly have a tool as a mayor now for so called moderate dems. Guessing when Kyrie will come full time is ....


Now, we have KD coming next week. Add the fact that Ben will most likely come after couple weeks means, we maintain that 8 seed. Hornets just ain't good enough.

ATL, this team can actually push us to 9 seed. They got enough to get hot and schedule ain't that bad.

With all that said, I think we maintain 8 seed and spank Craptors in play-in tournament. Ben, KD and mob is more than capable to do so.
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Post#53 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:15 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=sYhLwaEdBuD5RQIwwyZcLg

Call me delusional homer all y'all want. Just going to say that this lineup is a favorite vs any team.

Let me get that lineup fully healthy with Dragic, Mills, Brown and Blake as a subs, I say we spank any team without chemistry and coach.


Agree.

at the same time, anyone who suits up should be able to avoid a 30-point loss just by playing hard and with pride.

after tonight, someone needs to fired:

VP, GM, Coach, Assistant, player, scout, strength/performance coach, equipment manager, ....someone...

It's been reported that Tsai directly spoke to Adams about mandate. It's clearly political and I'm not sure how I can dance around without mentioning elections here. We clearly have a tool as a mayor now for so called moderate dems. Guessing when Kyrie will come full time is ....


Now, we have KD coming next week. Add the fact that Ben will most likely come after couple weeks means, we maintain that 8 seed. Hornets just ain't good enough.

ATL, this team can actually push us to 9 seed. They got enough to get hot and schedule ain't that bad.

With all that said, I think we maintain 8 seed and spank Craptors in play-in tournament. Ben, KD and mob is more than capable to do so.


I dont think we would beat the raptors with all of our team 100% healthy and kyrie playing. They play us perfectly, even last year. and nurse is just too good to lose to nash in a 1 game play-in. I think it would be somehting like nets lose by 9 in a game KD/Kyrie combined for 82 points.

Charlotte has owned us for whatever reason. i can see us losing to both toronto and the hornets at full strength. 1-game is not our friend. in 7 games KD and kyrie can probably make it happen. but 1 game? unlikely
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Post#54 » by Prokorov » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:54 pm

This is the type of effort you get when your coaches makes excuses. even if losses are justified, you need your team to be focused and have a next man up mentality. you need to build fight in your lesser players. not give them a pass to go through the motions
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#55 » by Shark » Tue Mar 1, 2022 8:59 pm

Honestly if the effort is the same tonight I'm gonna be tuning the team out until we get healthy.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#56 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 9:33 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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Prokorov wrote:
Agree.

at the same time, anyone who suits up should be able to avoid a 30-point loss just by playing hard and with pride.

after tonight, someone needs to fired:

VP, GM, Coach, Assistant, player, scout, strength/performance coach, equipment manager, ....someone...

It's been reported that Tsai directly spoke to Adams about mandate. It's clearly political and I'm not sure how I can dance around without mentioning elections here. We clearly have a tool as a mayor now for so called moderate dems. Guessing when Kyrie will come full time is ....


Now, we have KD coming next week. Add the fact that Ben will most likely come after couple weeks means, we maintain that 8 seed. Hornets just ain't good enough.

ATL, this team can actually push us to 9 seed. They got enough to get hot and schedule ain't that bad.

With all that said, I think we maintain 8 seed and spank Craptors in play-in tournament. Ben, KD and mob is more than capable to do so.


I dont think we would beat the raptors with all of our team 100% healthy and kyrie playing. They play us perfectly, even last year. and nurse is just too good to lose to nash in a 1 game play-in. I think it would be somehting like nets lose by 9 in a game KD/Kyrie combined for 82 points.

Charlotte has owned us for whatever reason. i can see us losing to both toronto and the hornets at full strength. 1-game is not our friend. in 7 games KD and kyrie can probably make it happen. but 1 game? unlikely


It's not something team. I'm just being dumbfounded how you can ignore entire things that were happening.

If we go buy your logic, than KD and 2nd round rookies will spank Craptors easy. We did that right? While no Harden who was clearly dogging it.
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Post#57 » by GTR11 » Tue Mar 1, 2022 11:47 pm

Guys just don't over react to next two games. It's straight L with nothing to take from it. 90% of our cap not playing, let that sink in.

Clowns who come to troll just imbeciles.
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Post#58 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 2, 2022 1:10 am

GTR11 wrote:Guys just don't over react to next two games. It's straight L with nothing to take from it. 90% of our cap not playing, let that sink in.

Clowns who come to troll just imbeciles.


your not wrong your just focusing on something different. I think its a major problem when you cant get your team up to play no matter who is out. some would argue its even easier to get guys who normally dont play motivated because they typically dont get alot of chances.

we should have alot more games like the ones right after the big covid outbreak. instead we get beat by 40 at home by a blah team missing its 2 best players while looking like zombies.

this teams heart and DNA stink big time. adding a couple bionic arms helps but i dont think its enough
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Post#59 » by GTR11 » Wed Mar 2, 2022 1:22 am

Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Guys just don't over react to next two games. It's straight L with nothing to take from it. 90% of our cap not playing, let that sink in.

Clowns who come to troll just imbeciles.


your not wrong your just focusing on something different. I think its a major problem when you cant get your team up to play no matter who is out. some would argue its even easier to get guys who normally dont play motivated because they typically dont get alot of chances.

we should have alot more games like the ones right after the big covid outbreak. instead we get beat by 40 at home by a blah team missing its 2 best players while looking like zombies.

this teams heart and DNA stink big time. adding a couple bionic arms helps but i dont think its enough

Prok with all due respect, you've seen how one player can change entire game. Now let me tell you the fact that top 3 player coming.

Supporting cast is elite. They just not adopt to do anything beyond that.
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Re: Nets v. Raptors | 2.28.2022 @ 7:30 PM on YES 

Post#60 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 2, 2022 2:51 am

GTR11 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Guys just don't over react to next two games. It's straight L with nothing to take from it. 90% of our cap not playing, let that sink in.

Clowns who come to troll just imbeciles.


your not wrong your just focusing on something different. I think its a major problem when you cant get your team up to play no matter who is out. some would argue its even easier to get guys who normally dont play motivated because they typically dont get alot of chances.

we should have alot more games like the ones right after the big covid outbreak. instead we get beat by 40 at home by a blah team missing its 2 best players while looking like zombies.

this teams heart and DNA stink big time. adding a couple bionic arms helps but i dont think its enough

Prok with all due respect, you've seen how one player can change entire game. Now let me tell you the fact that top 3 player coming.

Supporting cast is elite. They just not adopt to do anything beyond that.


Tonights results prove we had no business losing by 40 to this team

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