Official 2024 NBA Draft Thread

[NetsWorld]

This was an awful draft headlined by a 3&D role player

I'm glad Marks stayed patient and did not make a rash deal to get into this draft. I'd prefer a future pick than a 2024 pick regardless.

Much rather hold onto the vets and ensure the Nets get proper value for them.

Was just thinking about the Hawks

High profile, underperforming team in a big market somehow lucks into the #1 pick and gets the choice of guys who aren’t normally regarded as top tier talent

12 months earlier way & they were set

They are counting on the 2025 draft but I think the FO is also paying attention the 25 and 26 FA Classes as well hence the big amount of cap space the team will have; say a player like Luka or Booker hit the Market, I don't think Marks will pass that up, Luka especially.

[vincecarter4pres]

i doubt it, there were picks up for grabs all over. i was catching up late but it seems to me this draft was as weak as rumored through all levels. by 15 the picks were less interesting than jalen wilson.

Disagree. McCain is a super interesting pick, Collier is interesting, Holmes, Knecht, Da Silva, Tyson, Dunn and Dadiet.

There’s no reason for these guys to still be on this roster, especially DFS.

mehh we can prolly get those type of guys in the 2nd round honestly, this draft was hella weak. i think Marks and others are putting alotof stock into the 2025 draft which seems more valuable. So hopefully we can get a couple more picks in that draft for DFS and others. With what OG got, I'm pretty sure teams will soon be calling for DFS and CamJ.

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Disagree. McCain is a super interesting pick, Collier is interesting, Holmes, Knecht, Da Silva, Tyson, Dunn and Dadiet.

There’s no reason for these guys to still be on this roster, especially DFS.

mehh we can prolly get those type of guys in the 2nd round honestly, this draft was hella weak. i think Marks and others are putting alotof stock into the 2025 draft which seems more valuable. So hopefully we can get a couple more picks in that draft for DFS and others. With what OG got, I'm pretty sure teams will soon be calling for DFS and CamJ.

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

In that scenario you laid out with 7 firsts in '25, I know it's hypothetical, but Marks would probably consolidate some of those picks to try to move up in the draft. And if he can't do that, then he may even sell high on one or two of them for future assets with more potential since the '25 class is generally seen as a really talented one.

[Netaman]

Disagree. McCain is a super interesting pick, Collier is interesting, Holmes, Knecht, Da Silva, Tyson, Dunn and Dadiet.

There’s no reason for these guys to still be on this roster, especially DFS.

mehh we can prolly get those type of guys in the 2nd round honestly, this draft was hella weak. i think Marks and others are putting alotof stock into the 2025 draft which seems more valuable. So hopefully we can get a couple more picks in that draft for DFS and others. With what OG got, I'm pretty sure teams will soon be calling for DFS and CamJ.

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

I don't think the book is closed on trading DFS and at this point I'd rather get someone like O-Max or Dean Wade or Jalen Hood Schifino more than almost all of the guys I'm reading about from basically pick 10 on yesterday. Perhaps even Davion Mitchell. Id guess he ends up a connector piece in some deal with the Nets bringing back an interesting young back roster player who has to move for salary match plus a future protected first. Something like the O-Max, Mavs 25 lotto protected, Hardaway idea (except probably with a different team and probably for a 26 or 27 pick since they have so many 25s already).

I agree with you that out of almost everyone in that range McCain sounded the most interesting - and that's mainly because his biggest carrying skill seemed to unanimously be intangibles/hard worker. The tangibles are a good shooter with no size and meh athleticism. Honestly Jalen Wilson was more appealing even though he was a 2nd rounder because he had a more dynamic bag of skills.

For the same reasons I get not moving CamJ, especially since he's younger, higher upside, and signed longer on a deal that is increasingly looking good.

The Nets could have tried to get pick #3 back from Houston by dealing with them directly instead of NYK. They chose not to for a reason. This draft was considered weak and just reading scouting reports of mid-lotto picks, it definitely feels that way. Last year there were more than half a dozen guys still on the board at #15 i felt really good about. Someone on the T&T board asked that exact question and i thought it was interesting so here's how I'd answered it:

Wouldn't have Brooklyn been better off trading Bridges to Houston for #3/25 swap back/26 1st returned vs the picks they got from the Knicks?

i think that question is basically:

getting 3rd overall + keeping PHO 25/27/29

or

getting NYK 25/27/29/31 + 28 swap + MIL 25 (top 4 protected)

My view on that - 3x PHO picks are very likely better than the 3x NYK picks in 25/27/29, but let's pretend they are equal for a minute so they can cleanly cancel each other out. You are left with:

3rd overall pick
or
MIL 25, NYK31, NYK 28 swap

if you really liked someone at 3rd overall i think you'd prefer that over 2 distant unprotecteds and what will probably be pick 20-25 next year. but if you don't like 3rd overall because it's a weak draft and you value that as more of a pick #10-15 in a normal draft, then there's a good argument for the path they chose. Then the difference goes back to Phoenix vs NYK in 27/29/31?

Also I guess there's no certainty Houston put all 3 of 24/25/26 on the table.

I dont think it's a coincidence the difference between those 2 deals ends up being almost the exact amount SAS got for trading pick #8.

[vincecarter4pres]

mehh we can prolly get those type of guys in the 2nd round honestly, this draft was hella weak. i think Marks and others are putting alotof stock into the 2025 draft which seems more valuable. So hopefully we can get a couple more picks in that draft for DFS and others. With what OG got, I'm pretty sure teams will soon be calling for DFS and CamJ.

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

In that scenario you laid out with 7 firsts in '25, I know it's hypothetical, but Marks would probably consolidate some of those picks to try to move up in the draft. And if he can't do that, then he may even sell high on one or two of them for future assets with more potential since the '25 class is generally seen as a really talented one.

Very true and understood, it just feels like they keep touting in the media how DFS is worth this grand haul and how they’ve turned down so many offers of first round picks, but it all seems a little embellished.

They probably had offers such as a pick from a contender like Denver where the pick was going to be 27th, and a future top 22 protected 1st that immediately extinguished into that teams 2nd round pick if it didn’t convey.

Which is all fine and dandy, I don’t see why DFS would hold much more value anyway, he kinda sucks, is a super streaky shooter and is older.

But now you’re in this organic rebuild, and he’s now on essentially an expiring contract, there was no reason to not move him for pretty much any first available and take a shot on the kid highest on your big board.

Maybe they’ll find away to deal him for a very early second and a future first with legitimate potential to convey, but color me skeptical at this point.


Cam J I totally get holding on. Although I was annoyed last night, if in fact Sacto was even serious about making the move, I think a lot of people underrate what he could bring back.

I love Devin Carter though, so it definitely stung. In my eyes he could legitimately become the best player out of this draft, and has a reasonable path to a Jrue Holiday level career and style.

Along with Bub Carrington and Jared McCain as well. Even guys like Tristan Da Silva, Holmes, Knecht and Tyson.

Carter is the one that made it worth it to me though, believe a lot of real life FO’s were overthinking it with him and he should have went top 7 at worst.

Obviously not all these guys are gonna hit, but what was the harm in landing one and keeping it moving at this stage in what has to be a 2-3 season/off-season rebuild?

[vincecarter4pres]

mehh we can prolly get those type of guys in the 2nd round honestly, this draft was hella weak. i think Marks and others are putting alotof stock into the 2025 draft which seems more valuable. So hopefully we can get a couple more picks in that draft for DFS and others. With what OG got, I'm pretty sure teams will soon be calling for DFS and CamJ.

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

I don't think the book is closed on trading DFS and at this point I'd rather get someone like O-Max or Dean Wade or Jalen Hood Schifino more than almost all of the guys I'm reading about from basically pick 10 on yesterday. Perhaps even Davion Mitchell. Id guess he ends up a connector piece in some deal with the Nets bringing back an interesting young back roster player who has to move for salary match plus a future protected first. Something like the O-Max, Mavs 25 lotto protected, Hardaway idea (except probably with a different team and probably for a 26 or 27 pick since they have so many 25s already).

I agree with you that out of almost everyone in that range McCain sounded the most interesting - and that's mainly because his biggest carrying skill seemed to unanimously be intangibles/hard worker. The tangibles are a good shooter with no size and meh athleticism. Honestly Jalen Wilson was more appealing even though he was a 2nd rounder because he had a more dynamic bag of skills.

For the same reasons I get not moving CamJ, especially since he's younger, higher upside, and signed longer on a deal that is increasingly looking good.

The Nets could have tried to get pick #3 back from Houston by dealing with them directly instead of NYK. They chose not to for a reason. This draft was considered weak and just reading scouting reports of mid-lotto picks, it definitely feels that way. Last year there were more than half a dozen guys still on the board at #15 i felt really good about. Someone on the T&T board asked that exact question and i thought it was interesting so here's how I'd answered it:

Wouldn't have Brooklyn been better off trading Bridges to Houston for #3/25 swap back/26 1st returned vs the picks they got from the Knicks?

i think that question is basically:

getting 3rd overall + keeping PHO 25/27/29

or

getting NYK 25/27/29/31 + 28 swap + MIL 25 (top 4 protected)

My view on that - 3x PHO picks are very likely better than the 3x NYK picks in 25/27/29, but let's pretend they are equal for a minute so they can cleanly cancel each other out. You are left with:

3rd overall pick
or
MIL 25, NYK31, NYK 28 swap

if you really liked someone at 3rd overall i think you'd prefer that over 2 distant unprotecteds and what will probably be pick 20-25 next year. but if you don't like 3rd overall because it's a weak draft and you value that as more of a pick #10-15 in a normal draft, then there's a good argument for the path they chose. Then the difference goes back to Phoenix vs NYK in 27/29/31?

Also I guess there's no certainty Houston put all 3 of 24/25/26 on the table.

I dont think it's a coincidence the difference between those 2 deals ends up being almost the exact amount SAS got for trading pick #8.

I like McCain a lot, but Carter was my guy in this draft outside of Reed and maybe Castle.

He was at worst 4th on my big board.

He seems like a kid with a very high floor, and a valuable floor(Jrue Holiday like), but with an immense ceiling as well.

3-4 years from now I think everyone will be looking back on this draft like how didn’t we see this one?

Great measures for a point, on ball/off ball player, super athletic even at the NBA level, tenacious defender, good shooter, can run an offense and good creativity, beast in transition, confidence, father was a long time NBA player and has been around the game at the highest level his entire life, has the looks of a plug and play at either guard spot who can play next to a high usage star, kid is the total package.

His age and late bloom have scared people away.

[Netaman]

I like McCain a lot, but Carter was my guy in this draft outside of Reed and maybe Castle.

He was at worst 4th on my big board.

He seems like a kid with a very high floor, and a valuable floor(Jrue Holiday like), but with an immense ceiling as well.

3-4 years from now I think everyone will be looking back on this draft like how didn’t we see this one?

Great measures for a point, on ball/off ball player, super athletic even at the NBA level, tenacious defender, good shooter, can run an offense and good creativity, beast in transition, confidence, father was a long time NBA player and has been around the game at the highest level his entire life, has the looks of a plug and play at either guard spot who can play next to a high usage star, kid is the total package.

His age and late bloom have scared people away.

if we got #13 that would have been my pick and while i hate to admit this, my main concern was exactly the same as SAS which is that the tenacious defensive types often don't translate (i had the same lazy davion mitchell comp in my head and everything lol).

I'd have been excited about that pick though and hoped for the best. Not gonna lie. Though obviously it would have cost them CamJ which is I think a lot more debatable than DFS (no brainer).

Here's a question for you though since you like McCain, if you had this choice what would you choose?

DFS for McCain/filler
DFS to GSW for Moody/filler (maybe a future protect pick or some 2nds)

I think the latter is the type of move we will see once dust settles since almost every other team has higher priorities than DFS right now.

[vincecarter4pres]

I like McCain a lot, but Carter was my guy in this draft outside of Reed and maybe Castle.

He was at worst 4th on my big board.

He seems like a kid with a very high floor, and a valuable floor(Jrue Holiday like), but with an immense ceiling as well.

3-4 years from now I think everyone will be looking back on this draft like how didn’t we see this one?

Great measures for a point, on ball/off ball player, super athletic even at the NBA level, tenacious defender, good shooter, can run an offense and good creativity, beast in transition, confidence, father was a long time NBA player and has been around the game at the highest level his entire life, has the looks of a plug and play at either guard spot who can play next to a high usage star, kid is the total package.

His age and late bloom have scared people away.

if we got #13 that would have been my pick and while i hate to admit this, my main concern was exactly the same as SAS which is that the tenacious defensive types often don't translate (i had the same lazy davion mitchell comp in my head and everything lol).

I'd have been excited about that pick though and hoped for the best. Not gonna lie. Though obviously it would have cost them CamJ which is I think a lot more debatable than DFS (no brainer).

Here's a question for you though since you like McCain, if you had this choice what would you choose?

DFS for McCain/filler
DFS to GSW for Moody/filler (maybe a future protect pick or some 2nds)

I think the latter is the type of move we will see once dust settles since almost every other team has higher priorities than DFS right now.

McCain.

4 years of cheap controlled salary, has a ceiling even if he doesn’t hit it.

I was a Moody fan, but he’s struggled now for 3 years and hasn’t shown much, and if he clicks and gets it, now you have to pony up next summer and pay him, and hope and pray he was a contract year faker.

And if he gets it this year, all of a sudden you’re adding senseless wins to the win total, even if the lottery odds have been immensely smoothed out.

You can chase him with an offer sheet next summer if desired.

You can jump top 4 from anywhere in the 14, but although we don’t want to be a Detroit/Washington level dumpster fire, it would be nice to almost guarantee a top 7 pick by record and odds combined.

It would irk me something fierce if Marks made these two moves and then immediately turns around and starts making trades for young guys on their 3rd and 4th years of rookie scale with low ceilings, but who could be good enough with a change of scenery to make us play-in level good.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

I understand holding on Cam, but DFS should have kickstarted this thing properly if a deal for any pick inside 20 was available.

What is he going to windup with 7 first round picks in the ‘25 draft?

Not really realistic.

In that scenario you laid out with 7 firsts in '25, I know it's hypothetical, but Marks would probably consolidate some of those picks to try to move up in the draft. And if he can't do that, then he may even sell high on one or two of them for future assets with more potential since the '25 class is generally seen as a really talented one.

Very true and understood, it just feels like they keep touting in the media how DFS is worth this grand haul and how they’ve turned down so many offers of first round picks, but it all seems a little embellished.

They probably had offers such as a pick from a contender like Denver where the pick was going to be 27th, and a future top 22 protected 1st that immediately extinguished into that teams 2nd round pick if it didn’t convey.

Which is all fine and dandy, I don’t see why DFS would hold much more value anyway, he kinda sucks, is a super streaky shooter and is older.

But now you’re in this organic rebuild, and he’s now on essentially an expiring contract, there was no reason to not move him for pretty much any first available and take a shot on the kid highest on your big board.

Maybe they’ll find away to deal him for a very early second and a future first with legitimate potential to convey, but color me skeptical at this point.


Cam J I totally get holding on. Although I was annoyed last night, if in fact Sacto was even serious about making the move, I think a lot of people underrate what he could bring back.

I love Devin Carter though, so it definitely stung. In my eyes he could legitimately become the best player out of this draft, and has a reasonable path to a Jrue Holiday level career and style.

Along with Bub Carrington and Jared McCain as well. Even guys like Tristan Da Silva, Holmes, Knecht and Tyson.

Carter is the one that made it worth it to me though, believe a lot of real life FO’s were overthinking it with him and he should have went top 7 at worst.

Obviously not all these guys are gonna hit, but what was the harm in landing one and keeping it moving at this stage in what has to be a 2-3 season/off-season rebuild?

I agree completely. DFS and Bogdanvic, two older guys on essential expiring deals with DFs having a player option, they need to move them this off-season for whatever they can get. Unprotected first, amazing! Protected first or a young guy currently on a rookie contract, great! Second rounder(s), not thrilled but definitely the right move and has to be done if that's the best they can return. I wholeheartedly agree with you that the reports about DFS returning multiple first rounders was completely untrue. And if it wasn't, like you said, they were probably heavily protected that converted to seconds after a year. Move DFS and Bogdanvic for anything you can instead of letting them walk for nothing.

Schroeder I'm fine keeping or trading. If a good offer presents itself, take it for sure. If not, let him be a veteran for the younger players before letting him walk next off-season if you can reach a team friendly deal.

Simmons, in case anyone is in denial, would require attaching an asset to, which would make absolutely no sense in the current environment for the team. Or it would require taking a worse contract back with long-term money like Lavine. Again, makes no sense with the current status of the team unless the bulls are willing to attach a ridiculous amount of assets. So Simmons needs to stay this year and be allowed to walk next off-season.

With the money being throwing around and the first round now gone, I advocate for hanging onto CamJ for the time being now. OG got paid, PG13 will get a max from someone, etc. So unless a great offer comes in before the start of the season, let him inflate his stats for the first half of the year and be considered a team friendly contract by other teams. As things currently stand, he is the #2 scoring option on the team behind Cam Thomas so the opportunities will be there for CamJ to produce. Then deal him at the trade deadline similar to how OG got dealt from the raptors.

Additionally, I agree yet again, Devin Carter (#13) or Nikola Topic (#12) would have been great pickups after trading CamJ so sucks it didn't happen. Just have to trust in Marks for not pulling the trigger as there must have something that he didn't like about it since there were countless reports about the Nets trying hard to get into the draft. Maybe pivot now to young guys drafted last year that didn't play much due to guys in front of them and don't seem to be in their respective team's plans anymore - a prime example would be Jarace Walker with the subsequent trade and extension of Siakam. Maybe Cason Wallace too, as the thunder traded for Caruso and have plans to extend him as well as just drafting Topic last night.

[Netaman]

It would irk me something fierce if Marks made these two moves and then immediately turns around and starts making trades for young guys on their 3rd and 4th years of rookie scale with low ceilings, but who could be good enough with a change of scenery to make us play-in level good.

I wouldn't worry about the above.

a) it would take a miracle for next year's team to outperform this past year's team.

b) go look at the new lotto odds, we are going to see a lot of teams move from #9 to #3 like Nets pick (and Hawks pick from #10-->1). the worst team has an 86% of not getting the 1OA pick. They basically eliminated tanking.

c) if you get a guy like Moody and he plays well enough to extend that also means he's probably played well enough to trade at the deadline and bring in more assets, and then "dark tank" after the deadline when it's not as embarrassing (which will only ensure you stay in top 5-10 bc of new rules).

so those 22/23/24 year old former FRPs about to expire are the EXACT types of players I'd be looking for post-draft. I'll try to make more of a list today of guys like that on contenders but Moody, Mitchell/Duarte maybe, maybe even some guys from last year like Jett Howard, JHS, O-Max, etc.

[vincecarter4pres]

It would irk me something fierce if Marks made these two moves and then immediately turns around and starts making trades for young guys on their 3rd and 4th years of rookie scale with low ceilings, but who could be good enough with a change of scenery to make us play-in level good.

I wouldn't worry about the above.

a) it would take a miracle for next year's team to outperform this past year's team.

b) go look at the new lotto odds, we are going to see a lot of teams move from #9 to #3 like Nets pick (and Hawks pick from #10-->1). the worst team has an 86% of not getting the 1OA pick. They basically eliminated tanking.

c) if you get a guy like Moody and he plays well enough to extend that also means he's probably played well enough to trade at the deadline and bring in more assets, and then "dark tank" after the deadline when it's not as embarrassing (which will only ensure you stay in top 5-10 bc of new rules).

so those 22/23/24 year old former FRPs about to expire are the EXACT types of players I'd be looking for post-draft. I'll try to make more of a list today of guys like that on contenders but Moody, Mitchell/Duarte maybe, maybe even some guys from last year like Jett Howard, JHS, O-Max, etc.

I think if Orlando wanted to get froggy, DFS for Jett Howard is a nice gamble. Or if they want to include a far out pick or two with slight protection with Jett, for Cam J.

For DFS I like any of those above mentioned latter 3 guys with an expiring.

That’s different though. All the latter 3 you mention are only going into year 2 of their deals. Those gambles make a ton of sense.

[Netaman]

I wouldn't worry about the above.

a) it would take a miracle for next year's team to outperform this past year's team.

b) go look at the new lotto odds, we are going to see a lot of teams move from #9 to #3 like Nets pick (and Hawks pick from #10-->1). the worst team has an 86% of not getting the 1OA pick. They basically eliminated tanking.

c) if you get a guy like Moody and he plays well enough to extend that also means he's probably played well enough to trade at the deadline and bring in more assets, and then "dark tank" after the deadline when it's not as embarrassing (which will only ensure you stay in top 5-10 bc of new rules).

so those 22/23/24 year old former FRPs about to expire are the EXACT types of players I'd be looking for post-draft. I'll try to make more of a list today of guys like that on contenders but Moody, Mitchell/Duarte maybe, maybe even some guys from last year like Jett Howard, JHS, O-Max, etc.

I think if Orlando wanted to get froggy, DFS for Jett Howard is a nice gamble. Or if they want to include a far out pick or two with slight protection with Jett, for Cam J.

For DFS I like any of those above mentioned latter 3 guys with an expiring.

That’s different though. All the latter 3 you mention are only going into year 2 of their deals. Those gambles make a ton of sense.

It's a sliding scale, the less control left the better id hope the player to be. Jett obviously hasn't done anything yet. For someone with only 1 year left i'd be thinking more someone else's Day'Ron Sharpe where they've already proven to be a decent enough player.

but honestly even a team like Indy, if they lose Obi and see DFS as a replacement, I liked Isaiah Wong more than some of the guys who were on the board in the 20's this year.

[Paradise]

We must get something done today. No excuse not to land a pick or player in the 2nd round. Waiting for the undrafted market would be foolish.

[Netaman]

We must get something done today. No excuse not to land a pick or player in the 2nd round. Waiting for the undrafted market would be foolish.

multiple picks have been traded for nothing but cash. if they liked anyone they'd have made a move already. if they liked anyone a lot they would have made a deal with houston for #3 or SAS for #8.

this was reported to be a crappy draft, seems like the reporting was accurate.

[Keith Van Horn]

yeah at this point I'd hold. haven't seen any moves into the 2nd as of yet.

Maybe we still see a DFS or Bogie trade this offseason. I don't think they both start the year with us.

Cam probably sticks around for a while due to the age and being a position of desire for many teams. Maybe even throughout the entire season and then gets moved before the 2025 draft. I don't think I'd be too furious at that.

[vincecarter4pres]

I’m not even mad at this point. Just for **** and giggles wish they would have bought a pick in the second round or traded a future second though.

[Rich Rane]

Maybe we still see a DFS or Bogie trade this offseason. I don't think they both start the year with us.

As long as they can prove they can still shoot and in DFS's case, play defense, they might be more attractive around the deadline and other teams would have to be on the hook for only around half the contract.

[Netaman]

Maybe we still see a DFS or Bogie trade this offseason. I don't think they both start the year with us.

As long as they can prove they can still shoot and in DFS's case, play defense, they might be more attractive around the deadline and other teams would have to be on the hook for only around half the contract.

I think DFS will still be gone this summer, even if it's just matching salary for a sign and trade. I think the lack of draft day deal with him was more about there not being anyone they wanted at whatever pick they could get for DFS (or not wanting whatever salary had to match him).

On a sign and trade, they can swap DFS for someone in FA they want to sign to a new contract.

I dont think they will do the Royce O'neale decision with him. I think they know as a rental that doesn't really go anywhere, and unlike last year the priority is going to be development for Clowney/Wilson which means minutes.

[Paradise]

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[TheNetsFan]

The Nets drafted 3 players last year & currently have 6 picks next year (4 1sts & 2 2nds). I think they're ok sitting this one out.