#8, Who's YOUR Pick?

[Decipher]

Never seen him play so take my opinion with a massive amount of wtf

Sounds like Dermin is another Giddey who’s a pretty good player

He might also end up as trash can Giddey which isn’t ideal at 8

[Netaman]

Love the Wolf pick, love the amount of playmaking they added. They haven't added this much playmaking since the day they traded for Harden.

Crazy they made all 5 picks, but a lot for Jordi to work with here. Neither of Claxton or CamJ traded and CamT likely back seem to be 3 secure starters, now with a lot of playmakers to develop around those 3 connecting the actions. Could be some fun developmental basketball to see Demin/Wolf getting the Cam's open looks and Claxton easy dunks again.

Obviously disappointing no alpha scorer upside player added today, but once fears went off the board that dream was dead. I guess it's not impossible Traore has similar upside to Fears as a scorer, and he already seems to be more developed as a shooter/playmaker.

[Decipher]

We’re going to be really bad

[CalamityX12]

I’m sorry but I gotta come out of the shadows for this garbage draft….

Marks had my support from day 1 and nearly lost me with Nash/Vaughn hirings/extensions but still believed… that belief is dead.

Fire him and the whole scouting department. Jordi can stay cuz he’s our homerun of a coach.

How can you have 5 first round picks and honestly not be in the top 10 highest graded in this draft????? LIke JESUS **** CHRIST….

How many **** point guards who are all not as athletic as that **** ESPN broadcast is trying to sell?? This aversion to bigs will continue to cripple this franchise until that mantra is ripped from Brooklyn.

Danny Wolf is perhaps the best pick of the night

HORRIBLE selection of Egor at 8, straight up garbage!!!!! Back in Russia in 3 years, won’t be surprised.
Traore, only speed threat but the selection of a pg beforehand makes this redundant.
Powell? Maybe his best shot at Levert 2.0? Even so, over the other guys?
SARAF??? More stiff point guards? How many guards he plans to play at once?

They say they’re positionless but looks more like basketballless …. Wow. Another disappointed draft by Marks… WITH 5 FIRSTS!??!?!?! Holy ****

[Netaman]

Never seen him play so take my opinion with a massive amount of wtf

Sounds like Dermin is another Giddey who’s a pretty good player

He might also end up as trash can Giddey which isn’t ideal at 8

Giddey is a good comp. Some seem to believe in Demin's shot more, but that's a good comp. Giddey is a useful 14-7-6 player for his career and the shot has only marginally improved. Still just 22. Likely to get paid pretty good by Chicago. Started 279/280 games in his career.

If Demin can be Giddey but with a better 3 pt shot that would be an excellent outcome.

[CalamityX12]

your new Nets… all pass no points LMAO



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[Netaman]

I’m sorry but I gotta come out of the shadows for this garbage draft….

Marks had my support from day 1 and nearly lost me with Nash/Vaughn hirings/extensions but still believed… that belief is dead.

Fire him and the whole scouting department. Jordi can stay cuz he’s our homerun of a coach.

How can you have 5 first round picks and honestly not be in the top 10 highest graded in this draft????? LIke JESUS **** CHRIST….

How many **** point guards who are all not as athletic as that **** ESPN broadcast is trying to sell?? This aversion to bigs will continue to cripple this franchise until that mantra is ripped from Brooklyn.

Danny Wolf is perhaps the best pick of the night

HORRIBLE selection of Egor at 8, straight up garbage!!!!! Back in Russia in 3 years, won’t be surprised.
Traore, only speed threat but the selection of a pg beforehand makes this redundant.
Powell? Maybe his best shot at Levert 2.0? Even so, over the other guys?
SARAF??? More stiff point guards? How many guards he plans to play at once?

They say they’re positionless but looks more like basketballless …. Wow. Another disappointed draft by Marks… WITH 5 FIRSTS!??!?!?! Holy ****

"another disappointing draft"...when was his first disappointing draft? He's almost never had picks and when he's had them, he's hit on them (levert, allen, claxton, camt, sharpe etc).

Demin and Traore have different skills so I don't see anything problematically redundant there, if both work out it's a non-issue but if only 1/2 works out the redundancy as a positive.

i could be swayed on maluach vs demin but the way things broke who else was a better pick at 8? broyles? coward? essengue i can buy but he's a similar project just different skill set.

[Karate Diop]

I would have liked if they took a big st some point, but I don't know if I'd be so quick to slot Demin in as a "point", they could be envisioning a playmaking wing instead... Don't like the Saraf pick at all. Dude is a bum.

[Eatgreenz]

We’re going to be really bad

next year best time for it the big 3 boozer, Peterson, dybantsa could all be franchise players

[CalamityX12]

We’re going to be really bad

next year best time for it the big 3 boozer, Peterson, dybantsa could all be franchise players

Drafting another point guard instead

[JoseRizal]

The picks we made took the slogan Brooklyn Backcourt to a new level...

[Sharcm1]

I am very pissed off about these picks. Drafting four backcourt players that have questionable shot making ability is not great in this nba. Three point shooting is a necessity in the nba right now and the nets just picked four guys that aren’t good at it. Our last pick at center might be the best shooter of the bunch lol.

Demin at 8 is way too high for him. He was probably upper teens. Maybe even 19. At 8 he’s a bust unless he really really really develops. I know the nets have a pretty good track record of finding gems and developing them but damn this is bad. If he was a 6’9” athletic guy with a decent shot it would have been better. 6’9” skinny point guard who is slow and shot 27 percent from three is not what I had in mind here

[Minnamaker]

I don't think the negativity about this draft is justified. I understand that none of these players get hyped as save picks/future hall of famers, but from my understanding, there weren't any available with the 8+ picks. We don't draft any player in this draft that single handedly puts us in playoffs contention next year. So imo the best thing to do was to pick players with high upside. The important part for fans now is to stay patient, because it may take several years and ton of development to really see what kind of players we got.

I can see why Marks went with Demin. I don't know much about him, but he has great size, apparently great basketball IQ/court vision. These are quality abilities you can't teach but you can work with. He is said to be not very athletic, maybe a bad defender and can't shoot. There are other "slow" players that dominate the NBA (Jokic/Doncic), I'm willing to wait and see. He has the size (and needs more strength) to maybe compensate for a lack of speed. The biggest question mark might be his shot. But I don't see the comparisons to Giddy and Simmons. Look at his mechanics, his shot looks smooth! No reason that he can't be a 40% 3pt shooter later in his career if he has the right work ethics.

Seems to me Marks had clear favorites that he actually liked and didn't want to miss. Almost every player was picked higher than projected. He took a lot of PGs but honestly, we don't have any (Russell probably out). We have enough roster spots to clear time on the court. Additionally every player has great size (other than Traore every player is 6.6 or taller). We will play "switch everything" + small ball a lot, I think.

We might suck again next year but it's supposed to be a tanking year again anyway.

[Sharcm1]

The only hope for Demin is his jumper. He has good form. If he can get that to be a weapon he will do well. If he can’t he’s a bust. His passing skills seem to come from being bigger than the other guards and he pass over the top. But in the nba they won’t need to put a guard on him because he isn’t fast enough to get by a bigger player. He is often going to be guarded by the pf and c on some nights and if he can’t utilize the three then he’s a waste. He’s not quick enough to get past nba defenders. He need the three to make them close out on him so he can go by them. Cam has to stay for this guy to have a chance because the nets will need someone who can create his own shot and open the floor up for this guy. Or they better have a great offensive system in place with a lot of back door cuts and movement.

For a team that lacks scoring this wasn’t it. None of the players they picked are good scorers. I’m not sure any needs were filled in this draft with 5 firsts. And I’m not sure they picked best available at all the slots. So what came from this draft?

Idk if marks has trades to work out or what. Idk what he plan is. And I never did. Let’s see if he keeps cam Thomas. Drafting this many guards says no. And then they really won’t be able to score

[Netaman]

The only hope for Demin is his jumper. He has good form. If he can get that to be a weapon he will do well. If he can’t he’s a bust. His passing skills seem to come from being bigger than the other guards and he pass over the top. But in the nba they won’t need to put a guard on him because he isn’t fast enough to get by a bigger player. He is often going to be guarded by the pf and c on some nights and if he can’t utilize the three then he’s a waste. He’s not quick enough to get past nba defenders. He need the three to make them close out on him so he can go by them. Cam has to stay for this guy to have a chance because the nets will need someone who can create his own shot and open the floor up for this guy. Or they better have a great offensive system in place with a lot of back door cuts and movement.

For a team that lacks scoring this wasn’t it. None of the players they picked are good scorers. I’m not sure any needs were filled in this draft with 5 firsts. And I’m not sure they picked best available at all the slots. So what came from this draft?

Idk if marks has trades to work out or what. Idk what he plan is. And I never did. Let’s see if he keeps cam Thomas. Drafting this many guards says no. And then they really won’t be able to score

if he can't and he's literally just josh giddey #2, is that a bust? at #8 i dont think so personally. i would sign right now for Demin in 4 years to have started as many games a Giddey and being a career 14-7-6 player. though obviously i hope the jump shot ends up better and he outperforms that (i agree the form looks good enough that's a reasonable possibility).

[vincecarter4pres]

The only hope for Demin is his jumper. He has good form. If he can get that to be a weapon he will do well. If he can’t he’s a bust. His passing skills seem to come from being bigger than the other guards and he pass over the top. But in the nba they won’t need to put a guard on him because he isn’t fast enough to get by a bigger player. He is often going to be guarded by the pf and c on some nights and if he can’t utilize the three then he’s a waste. He’s not quick enough to get past nba defenders. He need the three to make them close out on him so he can go by them. Cam has to stay for this guy to have a chance because the nets will need someone who can create his own shot and open the floor up for this guy. Or they better have a great offensive system in place with a lot of back door cuts and movement.

For a team that lacks scoring this wasn’t it. None of the players they picked are good scorers. I’m not sure any needs were filled in this draft with 5 firsts. And I’m not sure they picked best available at all the slots. So what came from this draft?

Idk if marks has trades to work out or what. Idk what he plan is. And I never did. Let’s see if he keeps cam Thomas. Drafting this many guards says no. And then they really won’t be able to score

if he can't and he's literally just josh giddey #2, is that a bust? at #8 i dont think so personally. i would sign right now for Demin in 4 years to have started as many games a Giddey and being a career 14-7-6 player. though obviously i hope the jump shot ends up better and he outperforms that (i agree the form looks good enough that's a reasonable possibility).

Technically no, but I’d say yes. I wouldn’t want Giddey anywhere near my team, he is clunky and impossible to build around, with a style that’s useless with lower usage or on a great team with other real stars who need the ball. Yuck.

I’m warming up to this pick a little at 8, but I think it’s inexcusable to not have traded up to land a guy like Tre or Bailey, or maybe even Fears.

It’s also inexcusable to keep with this smooth brain mantra SM has about letting the chips fall where they may, instead of trading one or both of Cam or Clax.

They probably could have gotten a pick in the 9-14 range for Clax or Cam J, maybe with one of 22, 26 or 27 attached. Then I would have been much better with Demin if they also landed an Essengue, Beringer, Riley, Coward, CMB, or Carter Bryant.

There had to be a way to trade up without touching the NYK picks or the Suns swap from 19. 22, 26 or 27 into the late lottery.

And the Saraf picks was garbage, should have grabbed Fleming or somebody at least.

I like the Traore and Drake Powell picks a lot though, but even then, Will Riley and KJ were on board, so we’ll see.

[Netaman]

I’m warming up to this pick a little at 8, but I think it’s inexcusable to not have traded up to land a guy like Tre or Bailey, or maybe even Fears.

would you have given up next years 1 unprotected to move up? seems like that may have been the price given the queen trade up. or taken on PG? honestly asking.

It’s also inexcusable to keep with this smooth brain mantra SM has about letting the chips fall where they may, instead of trading one or both of Cam or Clax.

They probably could have gotten a pick in the 9-14 range for Clax or Cam J, maybe with one of 22, 26 or 27 attached. Then I would have been much better with Demin if they also landed an Essengue, Beringer, Riley, Coward, CMB, or Carter Bryant.

no chance. before queen at pick #13 the NOP 2026 unprotected first was out there. no reason to think they weren't offering to everyone ahead of #13. after that trade went through the price was set. was bryant, sorber, hansen, beringer, or clayton worth next year's #1? im good with Traore over most of them tbh.

im also good with saraf > flemming, those are both dart throws i like hedging the PG position. other than the brief spell with Harden it has been since kidd since we actually had a PG who elevated players around them and made them better.

i think cam or clax would be gone to the highest bidder if the offers were worthwhile. mark williams got traded for #29 and a 2029 pick that will suck because it is least favorable of PHO/MIN/CLE. That was like half the price of the LAL deal at deadline that got scuttled.

i will line up right behind you if he passed on anything close to a solid offer for CJ or Clax, but there is no reason to sell low for a crappy return like that. we have more than enough picks, we need to move assets for higher quality picks, not just volume.

[vincecarter4pres]

I’m warming up to this pick a little at 8, but I think it’s inexcusable to not have traded up to land a guy like Tre or Bailey, or maybe even Fears.

would you have given up next years 1 unprotected to move up? seems like that may have been the price given the queen trade up.

No, absolutely not. Unless we were talking moving up to 1 or 2 and we kept the 8 for the latter.

or taken on PG? honestly asking.

I think so, at least and especially if moving up to 3 for taking on PG left us with the 8 and we didn’t have to include future picks; and then could have moved from 3 to 2 using the 8 and possibly a future NYK pick.

It’s also inexcusable to keep with this smooth brain mantra SM has about letting the chips fall where they may, instead of trading one or both of Cam or Clax.

They probably could have gotten a pick in the 9-14 range for Clax or Cam J, maybe with one of 22, 26 or 27 attached. Then I would have been much better with Demin if they also landed an Essengue, Beringer, Riley, Coward, CMB, or Carter Bryant.

no chance. before queen at pick #13 the charlotte 2026 unprotected first was out there. no reason to think they weren't offering to everyone ahead of #13. after that trade went through the price was set. was bryant, sorber, hansen, beringer, or clayton worth next year's #1? im good with Traore over most of them tbh.

im also good with saraf > flemming, those are both dart throws i like hedging the PG position. other than the brief spell with Harden it has been since kidd since we actually had a PG who elevated players around them and made them better.

i think cam or clax would be gone to the highest bidder if the offers were worthwhile. mark williams got traded for #29 and a 2029 pick that will suck because it is least favorable of PHO/MIN/CLE. That was like half the price of the LAL deal at deadline that got scuttled.

i will line up right behind you if he passed on anything close to a solid offer for CJ or Clax, but there is no reason to sell low for a crappy return like that. we have more than enough picks, we need to move assets for higher quality picks, not just volume.

I haven’t heard the rumor you’re talking about with Charlotte’s unprotected ‘26 frp.

What was it exactly?

I also don’t think that Mark Williams trade has as much bearing on a Clax trade as it might be made out to be.

Clax is better, on a good contract and there is a major health issue with Williams which is why the trade with LAL was rescinded, lowering his value and ultimate cost.

[Netaman]

I haven’t heard the rumor you’re talking about with Charlotte’s unprotected ‘26 frp.

What was it exactly?

I also don’t think that Mark Williams trade has as much bearing on a Clax trade as it might be made out to be.

Clax is better, on a good contract and there is a major health issue with Williams which is why the trade with LAL was rescinded, lowering his value and ultimate cost.

i just edited i meant the NOP first. they traded #23 and next years 1st unprotected (the better of theirs or MIL).

it stands to reason that offer was there for anyone #8-13, which they eventually got #13.

once that trade went through i'd imagine the teams behind them were unlikely to settle for much less than that and a team like OKC had no reason for 2 picks this year. same with SAS at 14 since they already got Harper. so maybe they could have gotten to #16-18 for something minor but at that point im good with Traore + Wolf.

PG + 3 to nets for Mann + 8 is a deal i may have done, but that is a lot of money for 3 more years and $160m.

[Netaman]

From another athletic article predraft from aldridge:

Egor Demin | 6-8 guard | 19 years old | BYU

College assistant coach No. 4 (his team played BYU): The first thing that stands out is you walk out there and he’s 6-8 1/2. (ED: Demin measured slightly shorter – 6-8 1/4 – in Chicago.) He’s tall. He’s frail, but he’s tall and he’s long. When we played them, our whole thing was we were going to get up and pressure him, pressure him, pressure him. He can make all the reads, all the passes, both hands. He’s got all that down, especially when he sees the same coverages over and over. … We were like, let’s attack him. Trap the ball screen, go under. We kept switching it up. He struggled a little bit with that. I think he’s a good player, the Josh Giddey-ish type guy. I think he’s going to end up shooting it better. The NBA guys were asking me, “Well, what worries you?” It’s so physical (in the NBA). He’ll have to get adjusted to that, because he’s light in the ass that way. I think he’s going to just have to figure that out. Once he (does) that, he’ll be fine. Probably will wind up being a backup point guard for some years, because he’s got size, he can make shots. And he can really pass.

Eastern Conference scout No. 2: Egor shot the ball well in Chicago in that one-on-none; but the game’s played at 7, with people in the stands.

Western Conference Executive No. 3: His vision and passing stuff, he’s not (Luka) Dončić. But this kid can pass it and has size and can play in an NBA game, because he can think on his own. He doesn’t need a script and look at it and has to learn it. He understands flow, who needs touches, time management, already. He’s mature beyond what he would be as a rookie. At worst, (he’s Josh) Giddey, in that hemisphere of a clone. The shooting piece, I’m not concerned with. He’ll figure that out. … Overall, he may be getting a little undervalued. When I saw him early, I figured if he played 34, 36 minutes a game, he could come close — I’m not saying he would — to averaging a triple-double. And I don’t think he was playing with that great (a group) of guys around him. How many other guys from that team are going to be pulling down a pro paycheck, except for maybe one or two of them?