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Post#41 » by Preludepunk27 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:52 pm

Yeah I still think a 3 team deal with GSW, Memphis and the Nets could give everyone something of value.

Regardless, from the wiretaps, it sounds like the Nets weren't totally interested right now due to the injuries in our front court. I could see them revisiting this deal in a few weeks or so. I honestly feel that Sean or Josh won't be a Net by the end of the season though. Nets do look pretty solid with a Yi/Lopez/Williams/Najera/Anderson rotation. Once Stro and Boone come back, it's only gonna complicate it. But that's Franks job to fix, which he won't but hey can't a guy dream?
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Post#42 » by EFF » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:37 pm

jerseyjac wrote:nahhh...I'm keeping Boone...and injuries set aside, I dont think the Nets jump at a trade like this, especially this early in the season...but as Thorn stated, I guarantee the chatter continues...I would still hold on to these guys to possbily package them come Feb...


I don't see boone's value being too much more than a bellineli. I wouldn't want to get rid of both at the same time. I'd like to see a Boone-Stro package and not a Boone-Sean package to get rid of stro's contract and set up sean and ryan for more minutes. The way Ryan is rebounding, i'd trade boone for cash and a late pick at this point let alone bellineli.
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Post#43 » by rly723 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:59 pm

Ricardo in Brazil:
Hey, Bill. How are you? Do you think the Nets are right not sending Sean Williams or Boone for Belinelli? Do you see any better trade in progress for them? I heard that they want to trade Swift, right?
Bill Ingram:

I'm not sure why they didn't do that (yet). Marco is a very good scorer, but the Warriors are overloaded with twos and threes. The Nets, likewise have similar talent in Boone and Williams and one or the other doesn't get PT. And yes, they'd love to trade Swift . . .but who would want him????


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Bill, have you heard anything new that involves Al Harrington?
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He was all but packaged and shipped to the Nets this weekend, but the deal fell through. Rest assured, there are plenty of takers for Al.
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Post#44 » by Preludepunk27 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:06 pm

I'm guessing when we're healthy again, we'll talk to them.

p.s. I love the talks already starting about us shopping vince at the deadline...possibly to the Cavs. I'm sorry there is NOBODY on the cavs I even am interested in that we could realistically acquire. A third team has to come in to facilitate the situation.

Back on topic, man I wish we got this deal with GSW done.
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Post#45 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:24 pm

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jerseyjac wrote:nahhh...I'm keeping Boone...and injuries set aside, I dont think the Nets jump at a trade like this, especially this early in the season...but as Thorn stated, I guarantee the chatter continues...I would still hold on to these guys to possbily package them come Feb...


I don't see boone's value being too much more than a bellineli.



You are way off base here.
Not that Boone's value is super high, but come on guy.
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Post#46 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:25 pm

rly723 wrote:Ricardo in Brazil:
Hey, Bill. How are you? Do you think the Nets are right not sending Sean Williams or Boone for Belinelli? Do you see any better trade in progress for them? I heard that they want to trade Swift, right?
Bill Ingram:

I'm not sure why they didn't do that (yet). Marco is a very good scorer, but the Warriors are overloaded with twos and threes. The Nets, likewise have similar talent in Boone and Williams and one or the other doesn't get PT. And yes, they'd love to trade Swift . . .but who would want him????


jb in san jose, ca:
Bill, have you heard anything new that involves Al Harrington?
Bill Ingram:
He was all but packaged and shipped to the Nets this weekend, but the deal fell through. Rest assured, there are plenty of takers for Al.


What the hell is this supposed to be?
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Post#47 » by SpeedyG » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:00 am

Preludepunk27 wrote:I'm guessing when we're healthy again, we'll talk to them.

p.s. I love the talks already starting about us shopping vince at the deadline...possibly to the Cavs. I'm sorry there is NOBODY on the cavs I even am interested in that we could realistically acquire. A third team has to come in to facilitate the situation.

Back on topic, man I wish we got this deal with GSW done.


Trading Vince to the Cavs would be a HORRIBLE idea. You basically give a talented Vince Carter what he's always wanted his entire NBA career: a chance to be the perfect #2 guy. And with Lebron there, he'll exactly be that.

Those two would be a nightmare to deal with.
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Post#48 » by old rem » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:26 am

EFF wrote:
jerseyjac wrote:nahhh...I'm keeping Boone...and injuries set aside, I dont think the Nets jump at a trade like this, especially this early in the season...but as Thorn stated, I guarantee the chatter continues...I would still hold on to these guys to possbily package them come Feb...


I don't see boone's value being too much more than a bellineli. I wouldn't want to get rid of both at the same time. I'd like to see a Boone-Stro package and not a Boone-Sean package to get rid of stro's contract and set up sean and ryan for more minutes. The way Ryan is rebounding, i'd trade boone for cash and a late pick at this point let alone bellineli.


Why GSW takes Stro is they are
1-Stupid
2- Can't trade a guy who's been a starter the past 5+ years for more than junk
3- think a 3rd string C/F (Boone or Sean) is more use than a 3rd string G.
4-- get confused from too much Booze and hookers.

Probably all 4, and I'm not ruling anything out. NJ gets something for Stro-Sean..a couple of hoops dummies...they probably grab + run. Nellie would quickly pit Swift + Sean in the doghouse..making it about as lame as it gets for GSW.

I frankly am disgusted that GSW is trolling for the scraps off the Nets...and the least suitable ones at that. Better to deal Harrington elsewhere and wait + see what Beli can do. Happily...NJ has nothing at all on the table, having made everything but Ager untouchable. Thus the deal is DEAD.

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Post#49 » by Chris Morris » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:19 pm

We should have pulled the trigger on this (with Sean, not Boone).

I really hope that the Nets are just waiting on Stro's return to make this move - and maybe trying to make GS sweat this one out and throw in some cash.

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Post#50 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:49 pm

Considering we have Najera, Boone and Swift out which leaves our front court with Yi, Lopez, Sean and Anderson, I'm gonna say we won't do something till we're 100%
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Post#51 » by Chris Morris » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:33 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Considering we have Najera, Boone and Swift out which leaves our front court with Yi, Lopez, Sean and Anderson, I'm gonna say we won't do something till we're 100%

Why should any of that matter? We are NOT making the playoffs this season, we should improve our team for the long haul.
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Post#52 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:42 pm

Chris Morris wrote:
Preludepunk27 wrote:Considering we have Najera, Boone and Swift out which leaves our front court with Yi, Lopez, Sean and Anderson, I'm gonna say we won't do something till we're 100%

Why should any of that matter? We are NOT making the playoffs this season, we should improve our team for the long haul.


I don't agree with this.
I think we have a very good chance of making the playoffs this year, especially with Washington going into the tank,, figuring most people had them eating up one of the 8 spots before the season began.
But, regardless, I still make a deal even if we aren't 100%.
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Post#53 » by Preludepunk27 » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:38 pm

Chris Morris wrote:
Preludepunk27 wrote:Considering we have Najera, Boone and Swift out which leaves our front court with Yi, Lopez, Sean and Anderson, I'm gonna say we won't do something till we're 100%

Why should any of that matter? We are NOT making the playoffs this season, we should improve our team for the long haul.


Dude I meant we're hurt. As you can see, our management isn't going to mail in games. They just have a realistic approach. We're not going to do anything special but we're also not gonna do anything that hurts us even for a game or two more than our young roster already does. When we're healthy, we'll give a few people a call again. What I love about them is that they look out for the players in the system FIRST then look to the outside. When we don't have 4 guys healthy to play the front court on a given night, we'll have the flexibility of calling people and making some moves.
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Post#54 » by SpeedyG » Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:43 pm

Chris Morris wrote:We should have pulled the trigger on this (with Sean, not Boone).

I really hope that the Nets are just waiting on Stro's return to make this move - and maybe trying to make GS sweat this one out and throw in some cash.

Marco Bellinelli was born to play for this team.


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Post#55 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:35 am

All I know is Lopez better keep the starting gig when Boone returns.
I have no problem with Boone playing big minutes, but Lopez just isn't as effective coming off the bench.
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Post#56 » by rag-time4 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:12 am

old rem wrote:
EFF wrote:
jerseyjac wrote:nahhh...I'm keeping Boone...and injuries set aside, I dont think the Nets jump at a trade like this, especially this early in the season...but as Thorn stated, I guarantee the chatter continues...I would still hold on to these guys to possbily package them come Feb...


I don't see boone's value being too much more than a bellineli. I wouldn't want to get rid of both at the same time. I'd like to see a Boone-Stro package and not a Boone-Sean package to get rid of stro's contract and set up sean and ryan for more minutes. The way Ryan is rebounding, i'd trade boone for cash and a late pick at this point let alone bellineli.


Why GSW takes Stro is they are
1-Stupid
2- Can't trade a guy who's been a starter the past 5+ years for more than junk
3- think a 3rd string C/F (Boone or Sean) is more use than a 3rd string G.
4-- get confused from too much Booze and hookers.

Probably all 4, and I'm not ruling anything out. NJ gets something for Stro-Sean..a couple of hoops dummies...they probably grab + run. Nellie would quickly pit Swift + Sean in the doghouse..making it about as lame as it gets for GSW.

I frankly am disgusted that GSW is trolling for the scraps off the Nets...and the least suitable ones at that. Better to deal Harrington elsewhere and wait + see what Beli can do. Happily...NJ has nothing at all on the table, having made everything but Ager untouchable. Thus the deal is DEAD.

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If Nellie got along with either Swift or Williams the Warriors would seriously upgrade their frontcourt.

I think that Swift and Williamd are both better than Biedrins and Turiaf.

TURIAF??

Biedrins has size but Swift is much more versatile and has more quickness. Williams isn't quite as versatile, but he's a helluva lot better than Turiaf!

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Post#57 » by floppymoose » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:44 am

rag-time4 wrote:I think that Swift and Williamd are both better than Biedrins and Turiaf.


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Post#58 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:52 am

Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.
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Post#59 » by rag-time4 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:34 pm

Preludepunk27 wrote:Biedrins is totally better than both of those guys, in or out of Nellie's system at this point in all 3 of their careers. If Biedrins could up his FT% to about 65%, it wouldn't even be close. You could make an argument on Turiaf though.


I'm not a fan of Biedrins at all, but he's better than Josh Boone. He has nowhere near the versatility or quickness on both ends as Stromile Swift, but he has a little more size. I think the way Nelly plays there, Swift is the far better fit. Williams and Biedrins may be a toss-up, because I don't know if Williams has the ball handlingand slashing ability of Swift.
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Post#60 » by Preludepunk27 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:53 pm

Is there a way I can block Stro's posts from threads? I thought it used to be an option.

Dude every guy has a few man crushes (see: Chad Pennington, David Wright, Patrick Patterson at Kentucky), but yours is borderline scary.
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