The Official Ben 10 Simmons Thread

[CeltsfaninDC]

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[MGrand15]

The only interpretation of that Woj report that makes sense to me is that the Nets feel like Ben is healthy or was healthy enough to play and don't buy that he's getting a set back every time he's close to returning.

If that's where we are in the Ben-BKN relationship already - that's a big YIKES from me. Very concerning.

This is a special team. Literally everything has gone wrong this season. What a disaster.

[NetsJets]

The more I think about it the more I’m leaning towards cutting our losses and just cut him and stretch his contract. Just get rid of this dude.

[Xtruroyaltyx77]

Ben soured on Philly because they didn't have his back.

If the bkn/Ben relationship is heading that direction already....yikes


Does he even want to play anymore? Or just collect as many checks as he can and then retire?

[XtremeDunkz]

Ben soured on Philly because they didn't have his back.

If the bkn/Ben relationship is heading that direction already....yikes


Does he even want to play anymore? Or just collect as many checks as he can and then retire?

The organization had his back for years. Let's get that straight. It took years and years of Ben refusing to work on his game for it to get to that point.

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This was from less than 2 years ago. I’m surprised his mindset as a competitor has changed completely from this.

[MrDollarBills]

The only interpretation of that Woj report that makes sense to me is that the Nets feel like Ben is healthy or was healthy enough to play and don't buy that he's getting a set back every time he's close to returning.

If that's where we are in the Ben-BKN relationship already - that's a big YIKES from me. Very concerning.

This is a special team. Literally everything has gone wrong this season. What a disaster.

Ben is bullsh*tting. If Marks doesn't try to trade him in July he's dumber than i thought

[MrDollarBills]

The more I think about it the more I’m leaning towards cutting our losses and just cut him and stretch his contract. Just get rid of this dude.

We can't do that.

[LAL1947]

The more I think about it the more I’m leaning towards cutting our losses and just cut him and stretch his contract. Just get rid of this dude.

Instead of cutting Ben Simmons, would Brooklyn consider trading him to the Mavs for Tim Hardaway Jr and Davis Bertans?

Tim is a good professional and both are shooters. The outgoing salary almost exactly matches the incoming salary and all three guys have the same length of contract too.

Kyrie.............. Mills?
THJ............... Curry, Thomas
Harris............ Brown
KD................. Bertans
Claxton.......... Sharpe? Drummond?

[NetsJets]

The more I think about it the more I’m leaning towards cutting our losses and just cut him and stretch his contract. Just get rid of this dude.

Instead of cutting Ben Simmons, would Brooklyn consider trading him to the Mavs for Tim Hardaway Jr and Davis Bertans?

Tim is a good professional and both are shooters. The outgoing salary almost exactly matches the incoming salary and all three guys have the same length of contract too.

Kyrie.............. Mills?
THJ............... Curry, Thomas
Harris............ Brown
KD................. Bertans
Claxton.......... Sharpe? Drummond?

Done

[dlts20]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because there is no drug-testing online
But this is one of the most bizarre takes I've ever seen, that Simmons didn't want to play because he was intimidated by KD and KI's scoring and to start a thread with it....

that dude is either a troll, a moron,... or likely... both

Both of you guys keep putting your faith in this guy and try to clown anyone else who has a difference of opinion despite the evidence being clearly against you. He's intimidated and terrified about a lot of things. Hope he balls well for you next season but it's clearly a mental issue but you can continue not to accept it

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The Nets at least got 1st rd picks out of it.

[cam24thomas]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, because there is no drug-testing online
But this is one of the most bizarre takes I've ever seen, that Simmons didn't want to play because he was intimidated by KD and KI's scoring and to start a thread with it....

that dude is either a troll, a moron,... or likely... both

Both of you guys keep putting your faith in this guy and try to clown anyone else who has a difference of opinion despite the evidence being clearly against you. He's intimidated and terrified about a lot of things. Hope he balls well for you next season but it's clearly a mental issue but you can continue not to accept it

Well I don't agree that he's intimidated by KD and KI's scoring..... in fact I think their style of play only encourages Simmons to play, because he loves hitting 3-point-shooters and led the league in 3-point assists for his first few years.

But there is a mental issue (as Ben Simmons himself has claimed) in addition to a herniated disc, and that is why the media (and former players) attacking him constantly makes zero sense. Are they trying to drive him to suicide?

[dlts20]

that dude is either a troll, a moron,... or likely... both

Both of you guys keep putting your faith in this guy and try to clown anyone else who has a difference of opinion despite the evidence being clearly against you. He's intimidated and terrified about a lot of things. Hope he balls well for you next season but it's clearly a mental issue but you can continue not to accept it

Well I don't agree that he's intimidated by KD and KI's scoring..... in fact I think their style of play only encourages Simmons to play, because he loves hitting 3-point-shooters and led the league in 3-point assists for his first few years.

But there is a mental issue (as Ben Simmons himself has claimed) in addition to a herniated disc, and that is why the media (and former players) attacking him constantly makes zero sense. Are they trying to drive him to suicide?

I agree and it is definitely a slippery slope but the problem with Ben is similar to the problem with Royce White and his aniexty. They are not sympathetic figures. I think that Kevin Love would be receiving a lot of love, no pun intended but Royce and Ben come across as arrogant, otherwise. Then add that to the fact that you hear all the recent practice stories about how sky high his confidence is and how he is walking around like he's MJ.

On top of that, you have people like Love and Osaka who are being direct and fully stating that they have a problem when Ben, genuine or not, goes to the back issues and acts like it's all physical until the last second. I do agree though and was going to make a thread on the main board saying that we may need to lay off and show some support if he really is having issues. I take that kind of stuff seriously. We shouldn't hold it against him that he puts on a bit of a false front. That may be a defense mechanism.

I think it is just shocking because he is so good that it's like, how can you be afraid but I do know that know one is immune. We may have to get away from the mindset that he is selfish, doesn't care about his teammates, and only wants to do what's best for Ben when in reality he might wants to help so much but is petrified for whatever reason and it eats at him all the time

[MrDollarBills]

The more I think about it the more I’m leaning towards cutting our losses and just cut him and stretch his contract. Just get rid of this dude.

Instead of cutting Ben Simmons, would Brooklyn consider trading him to the Mavs for Tim Hardaway Jr and Davis Bertans?

Tim is a good professional and both are shooters. The outgoing salary almost exactly matches the incoming salary and all three guys have the same length of contract too.

Kyrie.............. Mills?
THJ............... Curry, Thomas
Harris............ Brown
KD................. Bertans
Claxton.......... Sharpe? Drummond?

Send us back Spencer and I'd be interested.

[MrDollarBills]

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The Nets at least got 1st rd picks out of it.

I feel sorry for Embiid. Seriously.

[MrDollarBills]

Both of you guys keep putting your faith in this guy and try to clown anyone else who has a difference of opinion despite the evidence being clearly against you. He's intimidated and terrified about a lot of things. Hope he balls well for you next season but it's clearly a mental issue but you can continue not to accept it

Well I don't agree that he's intimidated by KD and KI's scoring..... in fact I think their style of play only encourages Simmons to play, because he loves hitting 3-point-shooters and led the league in 3-point assists for his first few years.

But there is a mental issue (as Ben Simmons himself has claimed) in addition to a herniated disc, and that is why the media (and former players) attacking him constantly makes zero sense. Are they trying to drive him to suicide?

I agree and it is definitely a slippery slope but the problem with Ben is similar to the problem with Royce White and his aniexty. They are not sympathetic figures. I think that Kevin Love would be receiving a lot of love, no pun intended but Royce and Ben come across as arrogant, otherwise. Then add that to the fact that you hear all the recent practice stories about how sky high his confidence is and how he is walking around like he's MJ.

On top of that, you have people like Love and Osaka who are being direct and fully stating that they have a problem when Ben, genuine or not, goes to the back issues and acts like it's all physical until the last second. I do agree though and was going to make a thread on the main board saying that we may need to lay off and show some support if he really is having issues. I take that kind of stuff seriously. We shouldn't hold it against him that he puts on a bit of a false front. That may be a defense mechanism.

I think it is just shocking because he is so good that it's like, how can you be afraid but I do know that know one is immune. We may have to get away from the mindset that he is selfish, doesn't care about his teammates, and only wants to do what's best for Ben when in reality he might wants to help so much but is petrified for whatever reason and it eats at him all the time

If Ben is suffering from severe anxiety, I can understand since I myself have an anxiety disorder that I have to manage. It's not fun and it makes often what others consider mundane tasks to be very challenging situations.

That being said, he's got to be honest about the situation. You can't just start faking back flare ups. Out of any profession in the word, he has a ton of leeway to literally tell the Nets hey, I am suffering right now and I need help.

[NyCeEvO]

Well I don't agree that he's intimidated by KD and KI's scoring..... in fact I think their style of play only encourages Simmons to play, because he loves hitting 3-point-shooters and led the league in 3-point assists for his first few years.

But there is a mental issue (as Ben Simmons himself has claimed) in addition to a herniated disc, and that is why the media (and former players) attacking him constantly makes zero sense. Are they trying to drive him to suicide?

I agree and it is definitely a slippery slope but the problem with Ben is similar to the problem with Royce White and his aniexty. They are not sympathetic figures. I think that Kevin Love would be receiving a lot of love, no pun intended but Royce and Ben come across as arrogant, otherwise. Then add that to the fact that you hear all the recent practice stories about how sky high his confidence is and how he is walking around like he's MJ.

On top of that, you have people like Love and Osaka who are being direct and fully stating that they have a problem when Ben, genuine or not, goes to the back issues and acts like it's all physical until the last second. I do agree though and was going to make a thread on the main board saying that we may need to lay off and show some support if he really is having issues. I take that kind of stuff seriously. We shouldn't hold it against him that he puts on a bit of a false front. That may be a defense mechanism.

I think it is just shocking because he is so good that it's like, how can you be afraid but I do know that know one is immune. We may have to get away from the mindset that he is selfish, doesn't care about his teammates, and only wants to do what's best for Ben when in reality he might wants to help so much but is petrified for whatever reason and it eats at him all the time

If Ben is suffering from severe anxiety, I can understand since I myself have an anxiety disorder that I have to manage. It's not fun and it makes often what others consider mundane tasks to be very challenging situations.

That being said, he's got to be honest about the situation. You can't just start faking back flare ups. Out of any profession in the word, he has a ton of leeway to literally tell the Nets hey, I am suffering right now and I need help.

The response to him not playing Game 4 was a massive overreaction imo.

Which of these pundits have had a herniated disc in their back, which has led to pain shooting throughout their legs?

Back problems are no joke. I was surprised there were even projections about him playing Game 4. It felt like they were trying to rush him back, which is odd considering the Nets’ usual über-conservative “ramp up” protocol.

[MrDollarBills]

I agree and it is definitely a slippery slope but the problem with Ben is similar to the problem with Royce White and his aniexty. They are not sympathetic figures. I think that Kevin Love would be receiving a lot of love, no pun intended but Royce and Ben come across as arrogant, otherwise. Then add that to the fact that you hear all the recent practice stories about how sky high his confidence is and how he is walking around like he's MJ.

On top of that, you have people like Love and Osaka who are being direct and fully stating that they have a problem when Ben, genuine or not, goes to the back issues and acts like it's all physical until the last second. I do agree though and was going to make a thread on the main board saying that we may need to lay off and show some support if he really is having issues. I take that kind of stuff seriously. We shouldn't hold it against him that he puts on a bit of a false front. That may be a defense mechanism.

I think it is just shocking because he is so good that it's like, how can you be afraid but I do know that know one is immune. We may have to get away from the mindset that he is selfish, doesn't care about his teammates, and only wants to do what's best for Ben when in reality he might wants to help so much but is petrified for whatever reason and it eats at him all the time

If Ben is suffering from severe anxiety, I can understand since I myself have an anxiety disorder that I have to manage. It's not fun and it makes often what others consider mundane tasks to be very challenging situations.

That being said, he's got to be honest about the situation. You can't just start faking back flare ups. Out of any profession in the word, he has a ton of leeway to literally tell the Nets hey, I am suffering right now and I need help.

The response to him not playing Game 4 was a massive overreaction imo.

Which of these pundits have had a herniated disc in their back, which has led to pain shooting throughout their legs?

Back problems are no joke. I was surprised there were even projections about him playing Game 4. It felt like they were trying to rush him back, which is odd considering the Nets’ usual über-conservative “ramp up” protocol.

Consistency has gone out the window with this front office.

I'm not mad at about Ben not playing a worthless game 4. I'm more upset at the situation where it seems like there's something more going on behind the scenes with Ben/Rich Paul and the front office.

[NyCeEvO]

If Ben is suffering from severe anxiety, I can understand since I myself have an anxiety disorder that I have to manage. It's not fun and it makes often what others consider mundane tasks to be very challenging situations.

That being said, he's got to be honest about the situation. You can't just start faking back flare ups. Out of any profession in the word, he has a ton of leeway to literally tell the Nets hey, I am suffering right now and I need help.

The response to him not playing Game 4 was a massive overreaction imo.

Which of these pundits have had a herniated disc in their back, which has led to pain shooting throughout their legs?

Back problems are no joke. I was surprised there were even projections about him playing Game 4. It felt like they were trying to rush him back, which is odd considering the Nets’ usual über-conservative “ramp up” protocol.

Consistency has gone out the window with this front office.

I'm not mad at about Ben not playing a worthless game 4. I'm more upset at the situation where it seems like there's something more going on behind the scenes with Ben/Rich Paul and the front office.

Rich Paul serves a double role as agent and PR rep. While I have no thoughts about how he performs as an agent, the PR side seems pretty bad, at least in terms of dealing with franchises.