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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#401 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:41 pm

and I am throwing the towel, I said it if we go down 2-0, the series is over....

seems like it right now. Boston doesn't play great but still wins, think about it!!!
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#402 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:44 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Middleton has a sprained MCL. There is a huge opportunity now to win the 2nd round.

We have to find a way to beat the Celtics.


You're actually looking ahead while this team is literally imploding?
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#405 » by MGrand15 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:53 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Not sure why Kyrie isn't touching the ball at all.

KD was just embarrassing tonight. Blame Nash if you want but KD handed that game to the Celtics. So many back breaking turnovers and forced shots over double teams. I expected KD to play like an all time great. We haven't seen that for a minute this series. The guy can't even beat Teiss or Horford 1 on 1.

That's two games we should've won. I don't think you can bounce back from that in a series against a great team. I hope we can take one at home. Getting swept would be the worst. At least it'll force Tsai to clean house which this organization desperately needs.


I dont get why people are suprised. this was the most predictable thing ever. I SCREAMED it all year. KD vs doubles/traps is a turnover machine and some coach is going to see it and exploit it in the playoffs.

it was an absolute certainty this was going to happen. its why i said on page 1, there is 0 chance that KD doesnt have a similar game tonight...

Prokorov wrote:I expect nothing different from KD other then maybe making a couple more shots. ...4-7 turnovers is whats going to happen if nash doesnt adjust, and nash wont adjust.


it will happen EVERY game of this series. We can still win if we just go away from KD. dont run everything through him. but we wont, we will keep jamming a square peg in a round hole.


Welp. Elite players usually find a way to get it done. I clearly had too much respect for KD. He's not seeing anything special - this is what great players have to battle through. Every superstar gets doubled like this. I guess there was more truth to that "KD needs Curry" talk than I thought. I guess there's a reason OKC ran everything through Westbrook and had KD spotting up in the corner.

We're at the point where we just need to use him as a decoy. Let Kyrie, Dragic, Curry, and Brown control the offense completely. If KD goes the whole game without dribbling, we're better off.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#406 » by MGrand15 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:56 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:and I am throwing the towel, I said it if we go down 2-0, the series is over....

seems like it right now. Boston doesn't play great but still wins, think about it!!!


Yup. I think they come out and actually play great Game 3 and get a clean win. This looks more like 4 or 5 game series now. You can't throw away 2 winnable games in the playoffs and expect to compete.
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Post#407 » by NetsJets » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:01 pm

This is how I predict this series will go. We’ll win game 3, this gives the fanbase false hope, despite winning in ugly fashion. Then we’ll lose game 4 after blowing a big lead, then we’re going to get blown out in game 5.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#408 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:03 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Not sure why Kyrie isn't touching the ball at all.

KD was just embarrassing tonight. Blame Nash if you want but KD handed that game to the Celtics. So many back breaking turnovers and forced shots over double teams. I expected KD to play like an all time great. We haven't seen that for a minute this series. The guy can't even beat Teiss or Horford 1 on 1.

That's two games we should've won. I don't think you can bounce back from that in a series against a great team. I hope we can take one at home. Getting swept would be the worst. At least it'll force Tsai to clean house which this organization desperately needs.


I dont get why people are suprised. this was the most predictable thing ever. I SCREAMED it all year. KD vs doubles/traps is a turnover machine and some coach is going to see it and exploit it in the playoffs.

it was an absolute certainty this was going to happen. its why i said on page 1, there is 0 chance that KD doesnt have a similar game tonight...

Prokorov wrote:I expect nothing different from KD other then maybe making a couple more shots. ...4-7 turnovers is whats going to happen if nash doesnt adjust, and nash wont adjust.


it will happen EVERY game of this series. We can still win if we just go away from KD. dont run everything through him. but we wont, we will keep jamming a square peg in a round hole.


Welp. Elite players usually find a way to get it done. I clearly had too much respect for KD. He's not seeing anything special - this is what great players have to battle through. Every superstar gets doubled like this. I guess there was more truth to that "KD needs Curry" talk than I thought. I guess there's a reason OKC ran everything through Westbrook and had KD spotting up in the corner.

We're at the point where we just need to use him as a decoy. Let Kyrie, Dragic, Curry, and Brown control the offense completely. If KD goes the whole game without dribbling, we're better off.


This should have been the primary adjustment: KD should be off ball, with actions being run to free him up for open looks and curls. Having him at the top of the key handling the ball has been a disaster. Kyrie should be initiating the offense instead of standing over in a corner staring off into space.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#409 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:14 pm

Ima root for our Nets but can't hide reality and the toll it took on us to get here....

reap what you sow, this is what you(Nash/KD/KY) wanted, this is what's happening....

How could they lose it!!!! ughhhhh

did anything change???? do they EVerrRRR look at what's not working and adjust away from it!
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#410 » by Shark » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:23 pm

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Prokorov wrote:
I dont get why people are suprised. this was the most predictable thing ever. I SCREAMED it all year. KD vs doubles/traps is a turnover machine and some coach is going to see it and exploit it in the playoffs.

it was an absolute certainty this was going to happen. its why i said on page 1, there is 0 chance that KD doesnt have a similar game tonight...



it will happen EVERY game of this series. We can still win if we just go away from KD. dont run everything through him. but we wont, we will keep jamming a square peg in a round hole.


Welp. Elite players usually find a way to get it done. I clearly had too much respect for KD. He's not seeing anything special - this is what great players have to battle through. Every superstar gets doubled like this. I guess there was more truth to that "KD needs Curry" talk than I thought. I guess there's a reason OKC ran everything through Westbrook and had KD spotting up in the corner.

We're at the point where we just need to use him as a decoy. Let Kyrie, Dragic, Curry, and Brown control the offense completely. If KD goes the whole game without dribbling, we're better off.


This should have been the primary adjustment: KD should be off ball, with actions being run to free him up for open looks and curls. Having him at the top of the key handling the ball has been a disaster. Kyrie should be initiating the offense instead of standing over in a corner staring off into space.

We did a little bit of this (KD off ball) in the first half, but it feels like we just accidentally discover stuff that works because we always end up where we started. The only thing that is going to save this series is if KD has a moment of introspection and asks himself if he's really an asset to this team as a primary ball handler and initiator. If he keeps on pretending like he hasn't been a massive negative the way he's played so far then we'll be swept and his legacy will be greatly damaged.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#411 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:26 pm

Kyrie can **** off with his latest comments... already conceding that this is Boston's window?!??!? are you **** crooked????
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#412 » by OfficialRef » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:33 pm

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OfficialRef wrote:I hate this **** man. Durant and Kyrie have ruined this team.


They made this team relevant and a contender overnight.

Marks/Nash ruined this team.

Marks did a **** job with roster management and Nash is a horrible coach, which is why I never saw the Nets winning a championship this year.

But these 2 lost games against Celtics- one lost by a buzzer beater, the other lost with a lead of 6 going into the 4th quarter is on Durant and Kyrie. If they are the hoopist purists they claim to be then they need to be able to pull through in tight games.
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Post#413 » by Evalar » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:01 pm

I assume a lot of the stuff being posted about KD is heat of the moment stuff. There's no denying KD has been dire the last 2 games but I don't remember people saying he was washed and old etc when he was carrying this team and playing nearly every minute to get us wins when Kyrie had other priorities and the rewriting off Harden is laughable how quickly people forget. Before the playoffs started it was generally accepted that KD and Kyrie were absolutely key to our success no one was doubting them then. I'm not excusing KD he's been so disappointing but some of the posts have been over the top and surely now is the time to support him not turn on him.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#414 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:06 pm

NetsJets wrote:The 4 guard lineup is getting demolished it would be one thing if it was working.


We arent utilizing the benefits of a 4-guard lineup or minimizing its flaws:

- idea of a small lineup is spacing/shooting. Did we go spread with Kyrie driving vs a super spaced floor? no we stuck him in the corner while curry tried to drive past horford.

- we should have went Drummond or LMA/Blake to minimize size/rebounding issues with such a small lineup or added even more shooting. Love Claxton but thats not the lineup for him

it can potentially work, but you need to actually put some thought into it
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Post#415 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:08 pm

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Nash is not a good coach, but I have seen bad and mediocre coaches win championships all the time.....when they have a full squad. Bud is a terrible coach and he just won the chip last year. Blaming Nash is deflecting from the real problem.


Nash isnt a bad or mediocure coach. he isnt even qualified to be a coach. he is an incompetent consultant being put in a coaching position he has no business being in. He is the problem, ive outlined it for 1+ years now.

You don't get to determine who is a Nets fan and who isn't. People can express their fandom any way they want. They are not obligated to support all of your takes or back maniacs like Ky.


you arent a nets fan. this if fact, not opinion.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#416 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:10 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm tired of blaming coaching for everything.

Yes Nash is a bad coach. We also have Kevin Durant and Kyrie.

Kyrie didn't get a lot of shots cause Celtics were swarming him.

KD was HORRIFIC. The two worst Nets games of his career back to back. Its unbelievable.

He is ruining his own legacy by playing like this. The Celtics are good defensive team. They are also not the 04 Pistons.

If they have this game defining defense lets see what they do in a series v Giannis. I don't see it turning out the same way.

With all that being said, series isn't over. I'm not convinced Kevin Durant doesn't remind us who he is.

Win both games in Brooklyn and the momentum shifts back to us.

Plenty of great players have come back from 0-2. KD needs to put his name there with the greats.

Nets in 6.


KD can't even get by Al Horford.

You're in denial. I think that Durant has physically hit the wall due to overuse. I have been sounding the alarm that KD has been averaging 40+ mins since mid March

This is the end result.


KD didn't magically just become bad after being incredible all season.

He hasn't adjusted to the coverages. And is playing bad.

If KD had even played average the last two games we are up 2-0.

The question is can KD get it together.

If he can we have a chance to even up the series.

Going up 2-0 is not a death sentences.

I've seen too many great players come back from it.


There is nothing for KD to "Get together". Boston is going to keep doing the same thing, and its going to keep having the same effect. They are putting KD into situations where he has to do things he isnt good it. he wont magically get better at them. And they are being ultra physical with him and are willing to give up a ton of free throws to continue to be physical with him.

This is not a player adjustment issue. or a player needing to do better. it is a strategic, logistical issue.
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Post#417 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:13 pm

I don't like Nash. I think hes a bad coach.

But the insistence on blaming him for every problem is just getting to be idiotic.

Why does KD get a pass for the worst back to back games of his career in the playoffs?

The truth is if KD even had a below average game by his standards, we win both of these games.

He has been unable to make any shots. He is a turnover machine. And his defensive lapses are constant.

He looks nothing like the player he has all season.

I get that the Boston defense is bothering him. But this is nothing new for KD!!!! Hes been swarmed defensively before.

And its not like he doesn't have Kyrie out there who takes a lot of doubles and attention. Or spacing with Curry/Mills. A good rebounder in Drummond.

LeBron routinely dealt with this type of defense.

KD isn't meeting the moment and is doing incredible damage to his legacy as an all time player.

This is why he has to turn it around and win us Games 4 and 5. I think he will. I don't think Boston plays as well on the road.

If we win the next 2 games the series is a tossup.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#418 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Middleton has a sprained MCL. There is a huge opportunity now to win the 2nd round.

We have to find a way to beat the Celtics.


You're actually looking ahead while this team is literally imploding?


We are not imploding. this is who we were all season. regular season its 1-off games with alot of bad teams in between. playoff are 7 game series with focused coaching and strategy. Coaching was already costing us in the regular season. in the playoffs worse cause more time in between games and more film.

We never had a chance once we reached this stage. if it wasnt boston, it would have been spolestra.

at least it is Ime, there is some justice there.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#419 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:15 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
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MGrand15 wrote:Not sure why Kyrie isn't touching the ball at all.

KD was just embarrassing tonight. Blame Nash if you want but KD handed that game to the Celtics. So many back breaking turnovers and forced shots over double teams. I expected KD to play like an all time great. We haven't seen that for a minute this series. The guy can't even beat Teiss or Horford 1 on 1.

That's two games we should've won. I don't think you can bounce back from that in a series against a great team. I hope we can take one at home. Getting swept would be the worst. At least it'll force Tsai to clean house which this organization desperately needs.


I dont get why people are suprised. this was the most predictable thing ever. I SCREAMED it all year. KD vs doubles/traps is a turnover machine and some coach is going to see it and exploit it in the playoffs.

it was an absolute certainty this was going to happen. its why i said on page 1, there is 0 chance that KD doesnt have a similar game tonight...

Prokorov wrote:I expect nothing different from KD other then maybe making a couple more shots. ...4-7 turnovers is whats going to happen if nash doesnt adjust, and nash wont adjust.


it will happen EVERY game of this series. We can still win if we just go away from KD. dont run everything through him. but we wont, we will keep jamming a square peg in a round hole.


Welp. Elite players usually find a way to get it done. I clearly had too much respect for KD. He's not seeing anything special - this is what great players have to battle through. Every superstar gets doubled like this. I guess there was more truth to that "KD needs Curry" talk than I thought. I guess there's a reason OKC ran everything through Westbrook and had KD spotting up in the corner.

We're at the point where we just need to use him as a decoy. Let Kyrie, Dragic, Curry, and Brown control the offense completely. If KD goes the whole game without dribbling, we're better off.



Great players dont often overcome bad coaching. and they never overcome incompetent coaching. look at the warriors with mark jackson for instance. or the bucks with kidd.
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Re: Round 1, Game 2 EC Playoffs - Brooklyn(0) @ Boston(1) 

Post#420 » by Prokorov » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:18 pm

OfficialRef wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
OfficialRef wrote:I hate this **** man. Durant and Kyrie have ruined this team.


They made this team relevant and a contender overnight.

Marks/Nash ruined this team.

Marks did a **** job with roster management and Nash is a horrible coach, which is why I never saw the Nets winning a championship this year.

But these 2 lost games against Celtics- one lost by a buzzer beater, the other lost with a lead of 6 going into the 4th quarter is on Durant and Kyrie. If they are the hoopist purists they claim to be then they need to be able to pull through in tight games.


What part of game 1 was "kyrie not able to pull through in tight games" he carried us to a 4 point lead in the final minutes and scored 40 points on 20 shots.

both losses are 100% coaching losses. with a bad coach we win both. with a mediocre coach we win both in blowouts

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