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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#421 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:08 pm

Stone wrote:We are not going to win if we are only getting 26 points from Bruce, Dre, Seth and Patty. In particular Seth needs to give us 15 + points.


Can't expect your roleplayers to carry you on the road when your superstar was a complete negative. KD has to lead the charge. The turnovers and missed shots hurt this team worse than anything the role guys did.

We win this game running away if KD was even remotely up to his usual standard.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#422 » by NetsWorld » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:41 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:We gonna win game 2 ,3,4 , Celtics didn’t show me anything we should be afraid of , if KD played at 25% his usual this game was ours to take , yet he was pre trade Harden level bad
Now my question is where was **** Nash with Kyries inbound play to call timeout ? There was no **** net player in 5 mile radius!!!
This play alone and two missed Nic ft decided outcome of this game , up 5 with the ball 2 minutes to go shooting heavy contested jumpers ? Really ! ?
Thats not coaching , thats praying on Nash part , so sick of this trash


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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#423 » by Stone » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:57 pm

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Stone wrote:We are not going to win if we are only getting 26 points from Bruce, Dre, Seth and Patty. In particular Seth needs to give us 15 + points.


Can't expect your roleplayers to carry you on the road when your superstar was a complete negative. KD has to lead the charge. The turnovers and missed shots hurt this team worse than anything the role guys did.

We win this game running away if KD was even remotely up to his usual standard.


Kd was subpar, but Kyrie was exceptional. We still got their average amount points combined. I'm not one for all he would' have, should have could haves.....But we need our 3 through 8 guys to give us more.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#424 » by Kobe187 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:04 pm

Nets need to play better defence as a team, the interior defence was atrocious.

Rebounds were 43 to 29 for the Celtics and points in the paint were 56 to 32 for the Celtics, both buckets to finish the game were layups in the paint for Boston.
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Post#425 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:31 pm

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We got lucky yesterday that they didn't hit more of those.

I don't have much hope. We are handicap by this team's coaching staff.

Massive rebounding disparity. Wide open threes. If Kyrie didn't go nuclear we would have lost by 20+.
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Post#426 » by 3pt_chucker » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:52 pm

Nets need to have a clean game 2. No more unfocused, sloppy turnovers. Need more from Bruce Brown and Drummond. Get more shots for Patty and Seth.

I'm down to give Drummond one more game but he is looking like a huge liability vs the Celtics. Blake or Aldridge might be a better match up with Clax starting.

KD has a bad habit of rushing shots when this are going wrong/teams gt overly physical with him. He needs to get in a better rhythm to start the game, so he feels comfortable. I'm sure we'll adjust how we set up his shots.
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Post#427 » by gigantes » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:58 pm

hisairness wrote:Everything was already said in this thread but to reiterate about the defense. All year I wanted to be naive and believe that this team come playoff time can get a stop when it's necessary or at least make it difficult for other teams to score. Naive indeed. Last 5 mins of the game anytime they had a chance to get some separation, at least 6-7 point lead, Celts would go on layup drill and and tie or take the lead again...

Yes, and I think it needs to be recognised that BOS is bigger, longer, and plays more physically. At least in terms of the guys Nash is rolling out.

I don't think you can reasonably expect to play so many small guys (Dragic, Mills, Scurry, Irving and even Brown to an extent) and stop a lot of their bigger / taller guys getting easy layups.

Unless Nash adjusts to more of Blake and Kessler (etc), I expect them to keep getting easy buckets like that. Heaven help if they start hitting their shots, too.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#428 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:23 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Stone wrote:We are not going to win if we are only getting 26 points from Bruce, Dre, Seth and Patty. In particular Seth needs to give us 15 + points.


Can't expect your roleplayers to carry you on the road when your superstar was a complete negative. KD has to lead the charge. The turnovers and missed shots hurt this team worse than anything the role guys did.

We win this game running away if KD was even remotely up to his usual standard.


Kd was subpar, but Kyrie was exceptional. We still got their average amount points combined. I'm not one for all he would' have, should have could haves.....But we need our 3 through 8 guys to give us more.


It doesn't average out that way though.

Its way better to have both those guys playing good than one playing amazing and the other playing bad.

Because you can't double both. And it opens up the floor for the role players.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#429 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:32 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Nets need to have a clean game 2. No more unfocused, sloppy turnovers. Need more from Bruce Brown and Drummond. Get more shots for Patty and Seth.

I'm down to give Drummond one more game but he is looking like a huge liability vs the Celtics. Blake or Aldridge might be a better match up with Clax starting.

KD has a bad habit of rushing shots when this are going wrong/teams gt overly physical with him. He needs to get in a better rhythm to start the game, so he feels comfortable. I'm sure we'll adjust how we set up his shots.


When was the last game we've played that was clean? Versus Orlando? Seems like ages ago :lol:

Outside of our win versus Miami since then, every game has been sloppy as hell and KD has been a turnover machine.
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Post#430 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:35 pm

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Can't expect your roleplayers to carry you on the road when your superstar was a complete negative. KD has to lead the charge. The turnovers and missed shots hurt this team worse than anything the role guys did.

We win this game running away if KD was even remotely up to his usual standard.


Kd was subpar, but Kyrie was exceptional. We still got their average amount points combined. I'm not one for all he would' have, should have could haves.....But we need our 3 through 8 guys to give us more.


It doesn't average out that way though.

Its way better to have both those guys playing good than one playing amazing and the other playing bad.

Because you can't double both. And it opens up the floor for the role players.


KD playing terribly hurt the entire team. That's how much is on his shoulders. We can't overcome Nash and a huge size disparity like this if he plays like he did yesterday.
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Post#431 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:41 pm

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Post#432 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:42 pm

Gonna say it, albeit knee jerk reaction but prove me wrong type of statement, gm 2 is a must for us. We don't win gm 2, we don't win this series being down 2-0... even if it hit gm 7... our team and coaches aren't made of the stuff for comebacks... nope nope nope!
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Post#433 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:01 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Gonna say it, albeit knee jerk reaction but prove me wrong type of statement, gm 2 is a must for us. We don't win gm 2, we don't win this series being down 2-0... even if it hit gm 7... our team and coaches aren't made of the stuff for comebacks... nope nope nope!


Too reactionary.

I've seen teams come back from 0-2 too many times.

If we go back to Brooklyn and win both games then the momentum shifts entirely to us. Pressure on them to win Game 5.

Would even necessarily go 7.
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Post#434 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:09 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Gonna say it, albeit knee jerk reaction but prove me wrong type of statement, gm 2 is a must for us. We don't win gm 2, we don't win this series being down 2-0... even if it hit gm 7... our team and coaches aren't made of the stuff for comebacks... nope nope nope!


Too reactionary.

I've seen teams come back from 0-2 too many times.

If we go back to Brooklyn and win both games then the momentum shifts entirely to us. Pressure on them to win Game 5.

Would even necessarily go 7.

if it takes KD n KY to play 46/48 mins to square it at 2, I don't like our chances to finish 2/3 against a team more capable to be physical us.

plus their ability to create offense is > than ours. Ours is give to Kevin or Ky and watch them...
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#435 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:11 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:Gonna say it, albeit knee jerk reaction but prove me wrong type of statement, gm 2 is a must for us. We don't win gm 2, we don't win this series being down 2-0... even if it hit gm 7... our team and coaches aren't made of the stuff for comebacks... nope nope nope!


Too reactionary.

I've seen teams come back from 0-2 too many times.

If we go back to Brooklyn and win both games then the momentum shifts entirely to us. Pressure on them to win Game 5.

Would even necessarily go 7.

if it takes KD n KY to play 46/48 mins to square it at 2, I don't like our chances to finish 2/3 against a team more capable to be physical us.

plus their ability to create offense is > than ours. Ours is give to Kevin or Ky and watch them...


Lets not act like Tatum/Brown are not playing 40+ minutes as well.

Celtics have little depth.

Just cause they were more physical Game 1 doesn't mean we can't fight back after that.

KD + Ky is way better offense than anything they have.

I still doubt Tatum's ability to play like a Superstar over a 7 game series. Doing it once is fine. Lets see him do it every night like KD does.

I couldn't imagine them surviving a bad Tatum game like we nearly survived a bad KD one.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#436 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:35 pm

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Too reactionary.

I've seen teams come back from 0-2 too many times.

If we go back to Brooklyn and win both games then the momentum shifts entirely to us. Pressure on them to win Game 5.

Would even necessarily go 7.

if it takes KD n KY to play 46/48 mins to square it at 2, I don't like our chances to finish 2/3 against a team more capable to be physical us.

plus their ability to create offense is > than ours. Ours is give to Kevin or Ky and watch them...


Lets not act like Tatum/Brown are not playing 40+ minutes as well.

Celtics have little depth.

Just cause they were more physical Game 1 doesn't mean we can't fight back after that.

KD + Ky is way better offense than anything they have.

I still doubt Tatum's ability to play like a Superstar over a 7 game series. Doing it once is fine. Lets see him do it every night like KD does.

I couldn't imagine them surviving a bad Tatum game like we nearly survived a bad KD one.

But were they managing those heavy duty minutes like KD/Ky? Can't compare the two the same, we asked ALOT from KD where as Tatum and Brown are their best players, their not in that position to give so much(if capable) at every game in high usage...

they, along with boston are built for this. Younger, more athtletic and their offense welcomes easy pts.... transition, turnovers, actual plays ran for the team, hustle etc.... we're allergic to that. Its KD n Ky, go score and everyone watch and get in no rhythm

I think we're also seeing the wear and tear on KD due to how the season ended.... thats our disadvantage IMO.

Who on our team fights back? We got no enforcers or guys who want to be killers on both ends. Only KD shows that, Ky does what he can on defense but its all offense for his impact IMHO. Bruce? Dragic? Drummond?(you'd think but he a pushover), patty?(LOL) Seth? these are the guys we are playing with or putting out there for the minutes... unless seth or patty are killing u from 3, they're not gonna be any difference makers on defense.

Claxton is perhaps the best, along with Bruce, to be some dog but they can be faded out at times.

If I believed my team had that toughness, I wouldn't worry, but I'm not gonna lie and say we have dogs. Miami has dogs. Bucks have championship dogs. Celtics can out dog us... no way i put us on that level for that description.

Our identity is to outscore you. That's what we are. IMO.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#437 » by Netaman » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:41 pm

The big question is if people in the org realize KD is playing too much and KD is forcing these minutes or if nobody realizes. He is a prideful
guy in all the good ways but he needs to realize in this case playing more and working harder isn’t the answer, working smarter is the answer.


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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#438 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:17 pm

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Good. This needs to be said. There is a sense of urgency in his words and some people on this team did not bring the intensity yesterday to match what Kyrie, who was receiving abuse the entire game AND was in the middle of his fast, was bringing to the floor. KD included.
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Re: 2022 Eastern Conference First Rd - #7 Nets at #3 Boston Gm 1 

Post#439 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:23 pm

Netaman wrote:The big question is if people in the org realize KD is playing too much and KD is forcing these minutes or if nobody realizes. He is a prideful
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Idiot Nash has gone on record saying if he can't play KD and Kyrie til they drop we have no chance of winning.

I've never seen anything like this in my life where a coach can't generate offense without having two guys play nearly 48 mins. This is a systemic failure, or lack thereof, because we don't run any actions to free people up for looks and lay ups. It's why guys like Mills and Curry can't get any good open looks.
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i mean... that is str8 up indication of how poor it is... if i wanted to go off the deep end, i can say this looks like the team is disconnected and str8 up selfish with low iq...

how da fuq all 4 guys turn their heads and run down the court... like you could say that perhaps some guys don't like playing for either coaches or with a certain duo...

but i won't say that.. yet. lol
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