Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread

[Jagger-meister]

Damn I feel for Jarrett Jack. He was always a good dude and he is starting to break down physically. Out 4 to 6. Damn

[NyCeEvO]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

[shakendfries]

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[TinmanZBoy]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

you want Rose to play backup for Lin... you'd better kill him first...

[NyCeEvO]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

you want Rose to play backup for Lin... you'd better kill him first...

I was thinking purely from the perspective of the fan, not the player.

Whether Rose would actually want to entertain something like that is something I don't know.

Plus, I'm not invested in the idea that Lin has to be the starting PG regardless of whether he has the ability to do so. I think he is a PG who can start but first and foremost I want what's best for the team.

In the ideal situation where Rose could be convinced to do it, I'd want Rose to be the backup who gets 25-30mpg and when the Nets want to play Lin and Rose at the same time, Lin can play off-the-ball as well since he's proven to flourish in that role as well.

[TinmanZBoy]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

you want Rose to play backup for Lin... you'd better kill him first...

I was thinking purely from the perspective of the fan, not the player.

Whether Rose would actually want to entertain something like that is something I don't know.

Plus, I'm not invested in the idea that Lin has to be the starting PG regardless of whether he has the ability to do so. I think he is a PG who can start but first and foremost I want what's best for the team.

In the ideal situation where Rose could be convinced to do it, I'd want Rose to be the backup who gets 25-30mpg and when the Nets want to play Lin and Rose at the same time, Lin can play off-the-ball as well since he's proven to flourish in that role as well.

Rose's ego would not make it possible, OTOH, Rose starts, lin backs up would be possible...

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

After that stunt Rose pulled this year, I doubt he'd even get a 2nd thought from Marks and I don't blame him. Unprofessional.

[NyCeEvO]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

After that stunt Rose pulled this year, I doubt he'd even get a 2nd thought from Marks and I don't blame him. Unprofessional.

That's why he wouldn't be a starter lol. Can't be relied upon to be there on a nightly basis.

[NyCeEvO]

you want Rose to play backup for Lin... you'd better kill him first...

I was thinking purely from the perspective of the fan, not the player.

Whether Rose would actually want to entertain something like that is something I don't know.

Plus, I'm not invested in the idea that Lin has to be the starting PG regardless of whether he has the ability to do so. I think he is a PG who can start but first and foremost I want what's best for the team.

In the ideal situation where Rose could be convinced to do it, I'd want Rose to be the backup who gets 25-30mpg and when the Nets want to play Lin and Rose at the same time, Lin can play off-the-ball as well since he's proven to flourish in that role as well.

Rose's ego would not make it possible, OTOH, Rose starts, lin backs up would be possible...

If he hasn't already gone through it, Rose will be in for a big ego check this offseason. No team is going to offer him anything close to a max deal; and as MDB pointed out, that incident with him just not showing up to the Knicks game is a huge negative with any future employer. That incident, along with other comments he's made, erodes the trust that he could have with an organization and will caution any GM from giving him a long term contract.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's given 1-2yr "make good" contracts for the rest of his career because of the unreliability of his health as well as his physical presence.

[TinmanZBoy]

I was thinking purely from the perspective of the fan, not the player.

Whether Rose would actually want to entertain something like that is something I don't know.

Plus, I'm not invested in the idea that Lin has to be the starting PG regardless of whether he has the ability to do so. I think he is a PG who can start but first and foremost I want what's best for the team.

In the ideal situation where Rose could be convinced to do it, I'd want Rose to be the backup who gets 25-30mpg and when the Nets want to play Lin and Rose at the same time, Lin can play off-the-ball as well since he's proven to flourish in that role as well.

Rose's ego would not make it possible, OTOH, Rose starts, lin backs up would be possible...

If he hasn't already gone through it, Rose will be in for a big ego check this offseason. No team is going to offer him anything close to a max deal; and as MDB pointed out, that incident with him just not showing up to the Knicks game is a huge negative with any future employer. That incident, along with other comments he's made, erodes the trust that he could have with an organization and will caution any GM from giving him a long term contract.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's given 1-2yr "make good" contracts for the rest of his career because of the unreliability of his health as well as his physical presence.

agree with what you said... he should have checked his ego way before this season, have he changed? no...
another issue is backing up lin... believe it or not, a lot of players wouldn't publicly say it, but they don't want to backup an asian dude if this asian dude is not much better than them... didn't jennings and sergio rodriguz shun away from the Nets after Lin was signed to be presumable starter?

[NyCeEvO]

Rose's ego would not make it possible, OTOH, Rose starts, lin backs up would be possible...

If he hasn't already gone through it, Rose will be in for a big ego check this offseason. No team is going to offer him anything close to a max deal; and as MDB pointed out, that incident with him just not showing up to the Knicks game is a huge negative with any future employer. That incident, along with other comments he's made, erodes the trust that he could have with an organization and will caution any GM from giving him a long term contract.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's given 1-2yr "make good" contracts for the rest of his career because of the unreliability of his health as well as his physical presence.

agree with what you said... he should have checked his ego way before this season, have he changed? no...
another issue is backing up lin... believe it or not, a lot of players wouldn't publicly say it, but they don't want to backup an asian dude if this asian dude is not much better than them...

I can definitely see this being an thought that players have.

Amare Stoudemire just talked about the fact that if he knew a teammate was gay, he would shower in a different building from them. I can see how certain stigmas against a player being of a certain race that usually isn't depicted as being good at basketball (e.g. "White men can't jump") or being of a different sexual orientation can still affect players decisions.

didn't jennings and sergio rodriguz shun away from the Nets after Lin was signed to be presumable starter?

No. IIRC the Nets brought in Jennings to look at him as a backup and the Nets decided against signing him.

Regarding Sergio, as far as fans were told, he would only come to the NBA to compete for a starting job and a starting salary. After signing Lin, it essentially meant that Sergio would not entertain the Nets. Sergio got that opportunity with the Sixers as he's started 30 out of 57 games for them.

However, with a PER of 10.83 he's far from setting the league on fire.

[Paradise]

Posted this in the General Board two weeks ago.

Not surprised. I've been wanting Nurkic on my team since the day Denver made him available. Portland getting him and a first was just robbery.

Nurkic has all-star potential just like Jokic. I thought Denver could've made it work but it's good for both parties to part ways. Nurkic has the room to develop into the Aldridge replacement for Portland.

I predict he will have a 20/20/6/5blks game before the season ends.


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[qiantom]

Who can we draft this year that has the potential to be as good as Jokic and Nurkic?

[Vae Victus]

Were the Nets ever a fit asset wise that Nuggz wanted to grab Nurkic?

He had his whole hissy fit so many Markinson thought he was a bad egg and passed. But man, POR didnt have to give up much to get him (in fact they profited by getting a 1st), but then the team already has BroLo (sigh having him around really snuffs potential moves) and he'd likely keep up his hissy fit ways if Nurkic doesnt start.

[JayJayFor3]

I wouldn't give him the starting job nor anything close to a max contract, but Derrick Rose plays the role of a 6th man PG to perfection.

He'd easily be the best backup PG in the league. Knowing that he prefers big markets, I wonder if the Nets would be able to convince him to be the backup PG at a decent price.

Plus Lin might get to share something other then just back court with Derrick Rose if they became friends.

[Prokorov]

who wants rose even as a backup. dude is hot trash now. id rather dinwiddie or whitehead

[NyCeEvO]

Not to toot my own horn (actually, yes I'm totally doing that)...

Bradley Beal has been balling. I'd like to believe that my inclinations were all right and that if WAS wasn't going to re-sign him, we should've offered him a max contract.

I broke down the numbers for his career and the steady increases pointed to a guy who was going to keep getting better. Now? The guy is feasting and is a borderline star.

[NyCeEvO]

Chicago is playing god awful basketball.

They look like us a few years ago. All of that money spent, yet always performing poorly.

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[MrDollarBills]

Not to toot my own horn (actually, yes I'm totally doing that)...

Bradley Beal has been balling. I'd like to believe that my inclinations were all right and that if WAS wasn't going to re-sign him, we should've offered him a max contract.

I broke down the numbers for his career and the steady increases pointed to a guy who was going to keep getting better. Now? The guy is feasting and is a borderline star.

can't argue this.

[NyCeEvO]

Can someone explain to me what the Chicago Bulls are doing? They seem to be a complete trainwreck right now.