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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#441 » by JKiddy » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:42 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
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Pablo Escobar wrote:Kyrie for Harden and Tucker would be a great move.


Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:


Did someone just say that Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Jimmy Butler or am I reading this incorrectly?
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#442 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:40 pm

JKiddy wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:


Did someone just say that Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Jimmy Butler or am I reading this incorrectly?


This is life now. just like with Lin, it attracts haters and non-nets fans.

Kyrie is going nowhere. who cares who he is or isnt as good as. the local kid who grew up a net fan who brought KD and relevance to brooklyn. thats good enough for me
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#443 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:34 pm

Kyrie going nowhere.

Everybody hates him and that's fine with us. We love our own.
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Post#444 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:38 pm

Say what you want about Kyrie but he made the biggest shot in NBA playoff history. He shows up in high leverage moments.

Harden has never had this moment in his career. He always chokes and flames out in the playoffs. And none of his teammates want to stay with him or even like him.
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Post#445 » by Paradise » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:51 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote:Kyrie for Harden and Tucker would be a great move.


Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:

Your opinion is irrelevant but besides that, why do you care for what other fans think on a message board that doesn’t include you? It’s our forum, our player, our opinion. Yet, you are bothered. Look at you.

You don’t see how “rent free” we live in your head?
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Post#446 » by Paradise » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:56 pm

Pablo Escobar wrote:Kyrie for Harden and Tucker would be a great move.


Learning the difference between 2K trades and being a real professional general manager instead of pretending to know would be a even better move.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#447 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:10 pm

JKiddy wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:


Did someone just say that Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Jimmy Butler or am I reading this incorrectly?


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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#448 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:12 pm

Paradise wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:

Your opinion is irrelevant but besides that, why do you care for what other fans think on a message board that doesn’t include you? It’s our forum, our player, our opinion. Yet, you are bothered. Look at you.

You don’t see how “rent free” we live in your head?


Kyrie owns so much space in people's heads is crazy.

The funny part is when he was on Boston no one on this board really gave him much thought. As soon as he comes here these dudes lose their minds and start coming on here to talk trash. It's hilarious :lol: :lol:
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Post#449 » by Paradise » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:

Your opinion is irrelevant but besides that, why do you care for what other fans think on a message board that doesn’t include you? It’s our forum, our player, our opinion. Yet, you are bothered. Look at you.

You don’t see how “rent free” we live in your head?


Kyrie owns so much space in people's heads is crazy.

The funny part is when he was on Boston no one on this board really gave him much thought. As soon as he comes here these dudes lose their minds and start coming on here to talk trash. It's hilarious :lol: :lol:

Why hasn’t anyone of these “reporters” admit they were dead wrong on their ‘source’ on the Harden/Nets deal being done? All that confidence to talk the talk but none ever admit they are dead wrong.

We all knew it was unlikely it would be that easy and with Houston’s leverage but those clowns just needed clicks. Now, suddenly we learned talks never went anywhere from day one.

The same media outlets that spent 12 months trying to push Kyrie and KD to the Knicks and still trying to find excuses why they didn’t go there...because they never planned to go there. The media did.

How many times do we have to see people trying to take every Dinwiddie tweet and turn it into him making a trade request? People basically tried so hard to say he wanted a trade until he shut all that down and proved he was the recruiter for Kyrie/KD lol

THIS is an example of why Kyrie is 100% right on ignoring the media.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#450 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:53 pm

JKiddy wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Why should the Nets give up Kyrie for Harden? When Davis, Leonard, George, and Paul were all traded, there were no high level players involved with those trades. The team who lost the big time player did not get equal value back, just draft picks and matching salary. This has been the norm for awhile now. Why should the Nets trade Kyrie, because you don't like him? The **** is wrong with you?

Please think rationally before posting on here, Just because Kyrie lives rentfree in your head doesn't mean that the Nets front office feels the same way that you do. Stop polluting our board with your crap.

Better yet, go to the Bucks board and tell them that they should trade Giannis for Harden, or the Heat board and tell them that they should trade Butler, Bam and Herro for Harden. See what they say to you.

You know what would be a great move? You shutting the **** up.


Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Giannis or Butler. But besides that, why are you so upset on a message board :lol:


Did someone just say that Kyrie is nowhere near as good as Jimmy Butler or am I reading this incorrectly?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#451 » by StepBackCrack » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:53 pm

I have no idea how the hell Kyrie got into this topic lol. KD only came to the Nets because of him lol. Come on people. Stop that! Also Harden wouldn't agree to this crap anyway. He would want to play with both not just KD. That's the whole point of him coming. Look, bottom line is, the only team that is screwing themselves here are the Rockets because no team will be giving them a young star and waiting will most likely make things worse for them. And please for the love of God don't tell me that freaking Herro is a "young star" lol.
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Post#452 » by StepBackCrack » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:58 pm

The only worry for me is if Harden joins the Bucks somehow. That would make them a better team than the Nets probably but we know that will almost never happens. Harden to Heat or Philly will makes them better teams for sure but I still trust the Nets to beat those teams. And let's not kid ourselves, Sixers has to give Simmons for him lol. Heat will have to lose their depth for him and I still honestly can't believe some people think that Herro being a centerpiece is that different from Levert and Allen being a centerpieces of a trade package. That Herro guy is so overrated it's insane to me.
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Post#453 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:35 am

Teshima Junta wrote:The only worry for me is if Harden joins the Bucks somehow. That would make them a better team than the Nets probably but we know that will almost never happens. Harden to Heat or Philly will makes them better teams for sure but I still trust the Nets to beat those teams. And let's not kid ourselves, Sixers has to give Simmons for him lol. Heat will have to lose their depth for him and I still honestly can't believe some people think that Herro being a centerpiece is that different from Levert and Allen being a centerpieces of a trade package. That Herro guy is so overrated it's insane to me.


Why?

We would still be better than the Bucks with Harden.

Giannis and Harden are probably the two biggest playoff chokers in the league. That's not beating Kyrie-KD.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#454 » by StepBackCrack » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:32 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Teshima Junta wrote:The only worry for me is if Harden joins the Bucks somehow. That would make them a better team than the Nets probably but we know that will almost never happens. Harden to Heat or Philly will makes them better teams for sure but I still trust the Nets to beat those teams. And let's not kid ourselves, Sixers has to give Simmons for him lol. Heat will have to lose their depth for him and I still honestly can't believe some people think that Herro being a centerpiece is that different from Levert and Allen being a centerpieces of a trade package. That Herro guy is so overrated it's insane to me.


Why?

We would still be better than the Bucks with Harden.

Giannis and Harden are probably the two biggest playoff chokers in the league. That's not beating Kyrie-KD.


Because I think in theory Harden would work great with Giannis (just in theory because I know they dislike each other lol). Harden can take care of the ball and Giannis can focus on defense and finishing Harden's assists and dominate the fastbreak obviously. Harden also never played with a star of Giannis level before. I mean even with old Paul, Rockets managed to push GSW to 7 games. That's certainly impressive. I also think Harden is a better player than Giannis. He is way more skilled offensively. Giannis non-existent shooting is a big weakness in the playoffs but he is still a very good player in other aspects. They would be a big threat imo.

Also we still have to see how KD and Kyrie and this team in general looks. The team might face some defensive issues. We don't know for sure they will have top 10 defense and offense (top 10 offense will be much easier for the Nets obviously). I'm just careful with my predictions and want to see how things go first.
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Post#455 » by StepBackCrack » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:37 am

Nets will have top 10 offense easily I think if not top 5 but the question will be the defensive side. Most champions if not all had top 10 defense as well. That's key in building a champion.
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Post#456 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:30 am

Harden gets too much credit for that Game 7 vs the Warriors.

The Warriors got complacent that playoff run and let it go a game longer than it had to be. After being down 3-2 they never lost again.

Then they did the same thing to the Rockets the next year without Durant and the Rockets fully healthy.
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Post#457 » by Prokorov » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:03 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Teshima Junta wrote:The only worry for me is if Harden joins the Bucks somehow. That would make them a better team than the Nets probably but we know that will almost never happens. Harden to Heat or Philly will makes them better teams for sure but I still trust the Nets to beat those teams. And let's not kid ourselves, Sixers has to give Simmons for him lol. Heat will have to lose their depth for him and I still honestly can't believe some people think that Herro being a centerpiece is that different from Levert and Allen being a centerpieces of a trade package. That Herro guy is so overrated it's insane to me.


Why?

We would still be better than the Bucks with Harden.

Giannis and Harden are probably the two biggest playoff chokers in the league. That's not beating Kyrie-KD.


Harden has been pretty elite in the playoffs. 2 Game 7's have really skewed the narrative on a guy with 100+ playoff games whose only black eyes in the playoffs are losing to the KD warriors in 7 and the Lebron lakers.
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Post#458 » by StepBackCrack » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:03 am

Yeah, this choker or overrated narrative applies to guys like Westbrook not a real superstar like Harden. Harden is even better than Giannis for sure. Give Harden a teammate like AD or KD and he would win a title easily. Easily. Yes, he has his bad moments but he is literally the one that carried HOU and made them a contender all this time. Harden is really great player. Dude is a walking bucket and can playmake amazingly well. His defense is also underrated. His main issue is being lazy without the ball. That's what I noticed.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#459 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:09 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Teshima Junta wrote:The only worry for me is if Harden joins the Bucks somehow. That would make them a better team than the Nets probably but we know that will almost never happens. Harden to Heat or Philly will makes them better teams for sure but I still trust the Nets to beat those teams. And let's not kid ourselves, Sixers has to give Simmons for him lol. Heat will have to lose their depth for him and I still honestly can't believe some people think that Herro being a centerpiece is that different from Levert and Allen being a centerpieces of a trade package. That Herro guy is so overrated it's insane to me.


Why?

We would still be better than the Bucks with Harden.

Giannis and Harden are probably the two biggest playoff chokers in the league. That's not beating Kyrie-KD.


Harden has been pretty elite in the playoffs. 2 Game 7's have really skewed the narrative on a guy with 100+ playoff games whose only black eyes in the playoffs are losing to the KD warriors in 7 and the Lebron lakers.


Ok fair point.

Hes been bad in pivotal moments in the playoffs.

There was also that Spurs series in 2017.

And he lost to the Warriors without KD in 2019 at home w/ 0 points for Steph in the first half. That was by far his worst one.
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Post#460 » by StepBackCrack » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 am

And to be fair to Harden, other superstars did have some bad moments in the playoffs as well. I mean we shouldn't expect them to be perfect all the time. That's pretty hard. And it's easy to distinguish for example, what Harden did in the playoffs and Giannis for example who still I think has a lot to prove to many people. It's much easier to maintain Giannis. Harden I think gave his all to HOU. His biggest mistake was pushing CP3 out. That killed his chances last season of going far. Huge huge mistake. But yeah, with another superstar teammate, he would certainly be able to make a nice contender.

That said, I'm over this trade. It's fine. Nets have a good team and they can still win a title. Just hope they can make a move at the deadline that helps the defense IF needed.

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