Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

Netaman · Post #441 » by **Netaman** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 1:57 am

Barnes (or siakam/fvv), OG, Trent, and picks seems fair.
Ayton, Bridges, Cam Johnson, and picks seems fair too.

I'd be fine with either of the above deals and also fine if they find a way to swap Simmons for Mitchell (even if costs some picks). Based on trade machines both seem pretty doable with minimal bribery/maneuvering (basically just Westbrook's deal since it's obvious he's getting swapped for Kyrie).

I respect that Marks generally keeps things quiet and gets good value so my expectations are that they will end up with deal along those lines or comparable. And I expect it this week because I can't imagine he wants to drag things on with 2 squeaky wheels.

Post #442 » by **Rich Rane** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:19 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:Hi guys Raptor fan here coming in peace.

Just want to let you guys know Scottie Barnes is like my butthole. Absolutely untouchable.

so you don't wipe your ass after taking a sh*t?

I have so many questions I don't want answered.

gigantes · Post #443 » by **gigantes** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 6:11 am

Rich Rane wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
NinjaBro wrote:Hi guys Raptor fan here coming in peace.

Just want to let you guys know Scottie Barnes is like my butthole. Absolutely untouchable.

so you don't wipe your ass after taking a sh*t?

I have so many questions I don't want answered.

Ah, good ol' Raps fans and their flaming bungholes..

What could be merrier, right..?

Gooner · Post #444 » by **Gooner** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:17 am

What about AD and LBJ for KD and Ky? There was a rumour that Lakers want both guys. If that's the case, Lakers have to give up more than Westbrook who has no use for Nets with Simmons in the lineup. Nets avoid the rebuild and stay competitive, Lakers get KD on a 4 year deal, plus Kyrie. They are a better fit with Westbrook than LBJ and AD. Super team for super team.

atlantabbq99 · Post #445 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 7:36 am

From the Hawks...
John Collins
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Okongwu
Jalen Johnson
AJ Griffin
Justin Holiday

Just wondering from Nets' fans, who are the top 3 players in the list above do Nets fans want for a Hawks/Nets KD trade?

GTR11 · Post #446 » by **GTR11** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 9:35 am

Tomhomes33 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:https://youtu.be/Qcub0eYSi-U

Get him and call it a day Marks. No need to over do things.

Sorry to tell you but Masai will NEVER EVER not even then..lol..trade Barnes for KD..
nick Nurse just said he met the guy and he looks even bigger..and he improved his shot working hard every day.
KD or no KD in Toronto..Barnes WILL BE

Sorry to tell you but:
- any trade Craptors will propose will have Barnes in there. Marks clearly said young all star prospect. If he wouldn't be on the list, Marks wouldn't be talking to Ujiri.
- Nurse is not GM.
- No one cares what you think. Reports are out there and they clearly dont give a damn Tomhomes33 think.

gigantes · Post #447 » by **gigantes** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 10:56 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:From the Hawks...
John Collins
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Okongwu
Jalen Johnson
AJ Griffin
Justin Holiday

Just wondering from Nets' fans, who are the top 3 players in the list above do Nets fans want for a Hawks/Nets KD trade?

oO

TheNetsFan · Post #448 » by **TheNetsFan** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 11:38 am

Gooner wrote:What about AD and LBJ for KD and Ky? There was a rumour that Lakers want both guys. If that's the case, Lakers have to give up more than Westbrook who has no use for Nets with Simmons in the lineup. Nets avoid the rebuild and stay competitive, Lakers get KD on a 4 year deal, plus Kyrie. They are a better fit with Westbrook than LBJ and AD. Super team for super team.

Nobody wants to swap cores with an aging, fragile 33 win team. Nets need to focus on the long term.

Fallout_3 · Post #449 » by **Fallout_3** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 11:39 am

Brandon Ingram, Valanciunas, Herbert Jones + picks, swaps, etc?

Gooner · Post #450 » by **Gooner** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 11:52 am

TheNetsFan wrote:
Gooner wrote:What about AD and LBJ for KD and Ky? There was a rumour that Lakers want both guys. If that's the case, Lakers have to give up more than Westbrook who has no use for Nets with Simmons in the lineup. Nets avoid the rebuild and stay competitive, Lakers get KD on a 4 year deal, plus Kyrie. They are a better fit with Westbrook than LBJ and AD. Super team for super team.

Nobody wants to swap cores with an aging, fragile 33 win team. Nets need to focus on the long term.

AD and Simmons, that's something to build on atleast. Having LBJ on the roster next season doesn't hurt either. If Nets had their own picks it would be much easier, but they don't, so it's in their interest to trade KD for something competitive.

MrDollarBills · Post #451 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 12:22 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:From the Hawks...
John Collins
Bogdanovic
Hunter
Okongwu
Jalen Johnson
AJ Griffin
Justin Holiday

Just wondering from Nets' fans, who are the top 3 players in the list above do Nets fans want for a Hawks/Nets KD trade?

None of them move the needle honestly

MrDollarBills · Post #452 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 12:45 pm

At this point, I think it's clear that none of the teams listed are going to gut themselves for Durant.

Durant can either honor his contract or retire.

GTR11 · Post #453 » by **GTR11** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 1:14 pm

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I think this will describe past coule of days accurately :lol:

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Hello Brooklyn · Post #454 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:11 pm

Claud wrote:
NetsJets wrote:I hear the Warriors have interest in trading for Durant. They actually have the best package to offer. Kuminga, Moody, etc.

That would cement KD is a bus rider.

Would not be surprised to see it one bit since KD has shown he has zero leadership skills.

With that being said, I'd consider taking Poole/Kuminga/Wiseman/filler/all the picks + swaps.

KD will be a bus rider no matter where he goes from now on.

He had his chance to become a leader and win a Championship here.

Golden State deal isn't bad. Certainly way better than anything Phoenix or Miami could give us.

Probably not better than Toronto, Boston or New Orleans.

But why would Golden State do it?

TheNetsFan · Post #455 » by **TheNetsFan** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:17 pm

Gooner wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
Gooner wrote:What about AD and LBJ for KD and Ky? There was a rumour that Lakers want both guys. If that's the case, Lakers have to give up more than Westbrook who has no use for Nets with Simmons in the lineup. Nets avoid the rebuild and stay competitive, Lakers get KD on a 4 year deal, plus Kyrie. They are a better fit with Westbrook than LBJ and AD. Super team for super team.

Nobody wants to swap cores with an aging, fragile 33 win team. Nets need to focus on the long term.

AD and Simmons, that's something to build on atleast. Having LBJ on the roster next season doesn't hurt either. If Nets had their own picks it would be much easier, but they don't, so it's in their interest to trade KD for something competitive.

AD is made of glass and LeBron is getting very old. You can't combine AD with Simmons as franchise cornerstones. Sorry LA, Glass Joe is yours.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #456 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:22 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:If the Raptors don't want to trade Barnes, then they'd have to trade all of Siakim + OG + Trent + boat load of picks(3 1st + 3 swaps).

With Barnes it would be: Barnes + OG/GTJr + filler + less picks.(2 1st + 2 swaps)

Of the 2 trades, the Barnes one leaves more pieces around KD, allowing the Raptors to compete for a chip and less outgoing picks.

So it will come down to what they think Barnes ceiling is(#1 on Championship team or All-star) and if 3-4 years of KD is better than 10yrs of Barnes.

I'm not sure I've watched enough Toronto to say yes/no tbh.

I'm just not doing it without Barnes. Its not worth it.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #457 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:24 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Assuming the Stein report is true, then that answers my question about how the Raptors view Barnes long term prospects.

If I had to rank the under 23 players in the league, I think Barnes would be lower down on the list, especially because he's limited offensively and it might take years before he is close to a legit 2 way player.

His ceiling is probably an elite #2 on a team, with a legit wing/combo guard who does most of the scoring. Makes sense why the Nets would be iffy about pairing him with Simmons as they might get in the way of each other on the floor.

Can I ask how much Barnes you watched? Because at no point did our board watch games and say "he's offensively limited". Quite often we were begging for Nurse to give him the ball more and make him the focal point.

Well hes not a good shooter. That my main concern.

TheNetsFan · Post #458 » by **TheNetsFan** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:24 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:If the Raptors don't want to trade Barnes, then they'd have to trade all of Siakim + OG + Trent + boat load of picks(3 1st + 3 swaps).

With Barnes it would be: Barnes + OG/GTJr + filler + less picks.(2 1st + 2 swaps)

Of the 2 trades, the Barnes one leaves more pieces around KD, allowing the Raptors to compete for a chip and less outgoing picks.

So it will come down to what they think Barnes ceiling is(#1 on Championship team or All-star) and if 3-4 years of KD is better than 10yrs of Barnes.

I'm not sure I've watched enough Toronto to say yes/no tbh.

I'm just not doing it without Barnes. Its not worth it.

Barnes is ideal, but Siakam has value around the league. If he can be turned into someone younger and more picks, then there's still something worth discussing.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #459 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:27 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:If the Raptors don't want to trade Barnes, then they'd have to trade all of Siakim + OG + Trent + boat load of picks(3 1st + 3 swaps).

With Barnes it would be: Barnes + OG/GTJr + filler + less picks.(2 1st + 2 swaps)

Of the 2 trades, the Barnes one leaves more pieces around KD, allowing the Raptors to compete for a chip and less outgoing picks.

So it will come down to what they think Barnes ceiling is(#1 on Championship team or All-star) and if 3-4 years of KD is better than 10yrs of Barnes.

I'm not sure I've watched enough Toronto to say yes/no tbh.

I'm just not doing it without Barnes. Its not worth it.

Barnes is ideal, but Siakam has value around the league. If he can be turned into someone younger and more picks, then there's still something worth discussing.

Not to me. I want a young all star level player for KD in his prime with 4 years left.

Siakim is certainly not that.

I would rather just take Brandon Ingram from New Orleans.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #460 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Mon Jul 4, 2022 2:28 pm

Not being discussed but my #1 target still remains Jaylen Brown.

He is the best possible player we can get. But I still don't think Boston is dumb enough to do it.

KD/Tatum are two mentally weak players. Will implode in 2 years.