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[Hello Brooklyn]

You're trying to say that Donald Trump being President has not had an affect on the average American?

I don't remember neo-nazis openly marching on the street when Obama was President.

I don't remember refugees being banned from the country.

I don't remember climate change being denied as a fact.

I don't remember us on the verge of nuclear war with North Korea.

Your attitude of "both sides do the same thing" is completely idiotic and one of the reasons the county is completely **** right now.

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you're right. it's all my fault. if i had just checked someone else's name, there would be no racists hiding behind computers on 4chan, hosting racist frat parties on college campuses, spraypainting racist symbols, hanging nooses, and generally disturbing the public, refugees from war torn and terrorist ridden countries wouldn't face any scrutiny whatsoever, climate change deniers wouldn't exist, and Dennis Rodman would've saved us from North Korea

Your Youtube videos prove nothing, and are a complete deflection of my post.

1. White supremacists- Sorry but one maniac shooting at people is not the same as hundreds of people marching on the streets. Racism has always existed on college campuses and everywhere else. It was NOT mainstream and acceptable for Neo Nazis to march openly call for the killing of Jews and assert their supremacy over African Americans.

Trump has mainstreamed white supremacy. Are you blind? How do you not see that?

2. Climate change- Yeah except it wasn't coming from our President. Are you even trying to make points or just trolling? Different when some fool on Bill Maher says it than when its the official policy of the US.

3. So North Korea saying one thing is the same thing as them threatening to bomb us? And the President claiming we could go to war with them? Again, seems like you're not even trying.

All you did was go on Youtube and try to find videos which fit your narrative, when they don't at all.

NONE of these problems existed to the same extent when Barack Obama was President.

And I never said you were the problem. I said your attitude was the problem.

Now instead of creating a straw man why don't you try to realize that in reality you're wrong. Both sides are not the same and they never will be.

[shakendfries]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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[MrDollarBills]

All of this hate about Trump being a racist and bigot, and then claims that everyone that voted for him is a racist and bigot is just pure ignorance.

Trump is definitely not a polished politician. He's also not a very politically correct person. But people throw out the worst accusations based on hunches and jumping to conclusions. Then they only look for things to validate their opinions and ignore things that go against their opinions.

It's not just plain ignorance. It's purposeful ignorance.

Much of the country has lost their damn minds.

Hit dogs always hollar. Always.

Sorry champ, this "not all Trumpets are racist and Trump isn't one either" garbage you're on went out the window after Charlottesville. If the implication that Trump supporters are racist, Nazi sympathizing garbage upsets you, maybe you need some serious self reflection.

Maybe go check out Breitbart's comment section sometime and see exactly just how Trump's base behaves and then come back to me yelling "ignorance".

I've done a lot of self reflection. And I still conclude much of the country has lost their damn minds.

You're under the impression that comments on a site like Breitbart somehow represent a large percentage of Americans. I think that conclusion is asinine. Breitbart is a cesspool that has attracted vermin from around the country and allowed them to all congregate in one place. But that is in no way representative of regular people.

In fact, to make such an assumption is the definition of prejudice and stereotyping.

As for it upsetting me... it doesn't. Well, not too much. I've grown numb to the stupidity that is permeating both sides. People are more interested in casting people they disagree with as the worst kinds of villains instead of using their brains and actually realizing that both sides are falling prey to being manipulated.

The worst part is that both sides agree that people are being manipulated into being hateful... but they always claim it's the "other side" that is being manipulated.

News flash. It's both.

^^here we have an example of typical "whataboutism" or deflecting by trying to paint people who point out the racism of Trump and his base as the ones who are prejudiced and stereotyping.

"Both sides"?

One side has people in open support of a racist authoritarian nutjob because he panders to the dregs of American society with segments of them openly calling for ethnic cleansing and open hatred/abuse towards minority americans. The other has people of all backgrounds and ethnicity who are appalled by this rhetoric and behavior (as any sane person would). The only ones who have lost their damn minds are the enablers and sympathizers of Trump's base like you.

You don't get to play the both sides game when this man has enabled neo nazis to walk in American streets chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", what the hell is wrong with you?

Your stinking white privilege allows you to play the both sides game because these people don't have their venom aimed towards you. I however, cannot afford to do so.

[MrDollarBills]

If you identify as a Trump "supporter" you probably harbor racist sentiments.


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There is no "probably".

**** these people, seriously. human trash

[MrDollarBills]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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There's nothing wrong with government skepticism. But you can't deny that Trump has give white supremacy an open platform in this country that hasn't been seen in decades.

I won't go as far as to say these problems did not exist when Barack was in office, but Trump has exacerbated damn near everything.

Trump openly threatens North Korea on twitter. There's a huge difference between doing that, and behaving like an adult and letting diplomats and the SoS operate diplomatically to diffuse tensions.

[Hello Brooklyn]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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LMAO so just because you're black I'm not allowed to call you out for ignorance or stupidity?

That's called the bigotry of low expectations.

Sorry I don't play that game.

[shakendfries]

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LMAO so just because you're black I'm not allowed to call you out for ignorance or stupidity?

That's called the bigotry of low expectations.

Sorry I don't play that game.

you play the game of claiming the insidious sentiments harbored by most white Americans didn't exist until the election.

this is called delusion.

[shakendfries]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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There's nothing wrong with government skepticism. But you can't deny that Trump has give white supremacy an open platform in this country that hasn't been seen in decades.

I won't go as far as to say these problems did not exist when Barack was in office, but Trump has exacerbated damn near everything.

Trump openly threatens North Korea on twitter. There's a huge difference between doing that, and behaving like an adult and letting diplomats and the SoS operate diplomatically to diffuse tensions.

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The coward carrying a tiki torch who's uneducated as to how the world actually works is not the person I fear.

I fear the person I don't see, who's passing the subtly insidious policies that keep hospitals distant from poor communities, the teacher that dgaf about the success of the students that don't look like her children, the police chief who hires officers with a track record of abusing their communities. A candidate that convinces you these issues no longer exist, or the country is 'post race' is far more insidious than the one that puts it in your face.


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[MrDollarBills]

We all should fear that, agreed. That doesn't mean that white supremacists having an open platform to push their propaganda/being mainstreamed isn't any less dangerous.

[Hello Brooklyn]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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LMAO so just because you're black I'm not allowed to call you out for ignorance or stupidity?

That's called the bigotry of low expectations.

Sorry I don't play that game.

you play the game of claiming the insidious sentiments harbored by most white Americans didn't exist until the election.

this is called delusion.

And all you do is create Strawmans.

I never said that.

All I said is that Trump has mainstreamed and empowered white supremacy in the United States to a level unseen in the last 50 years.

As a brown skinned Muslim, I'm pretty sure I know that racism existed pre-Trump.

[J_LA]

LMAO so just because you're black I'm not allowed to call you out for ignorance or stupidity?

That's called the bigotry of low expectations.

Sorry I don't play that game.

you play the game of claiming the insidious sentiments harbored by most white Americans didn't exist until the election.

this is called delusion.

And all you do is create Strawmans.

I never said that.

All I said is that Trump has mainstreamed and empowered white supremacy in the United States to a level unseen in the last 50 years.

As a brown skinned Muslim, I'm pretty sure I know that racism existed pre-Trump.

Where you from Brooklyn..If you don't mind me asking

[Hello Brooklyn]

you play the game of claiming the insidious sentiments harbored by most white Americans didn't exist until the election.

this is called delusion.

And all you do is create Strawmans.

I never said that.

All I said is that Trump has mainstreamed and empowered white supremacy in the United States to a level unseen in the last 50 years.

As a brown skinned Muslim, I'm pretty sure I know that racism existed pre-Trump.

Where you from Brooklyn..If you don't mind me asking

I'm from New Jersey.

[J_LA]

And all you do is create Strawmans.

I never said that.

All I said is that Trump has mainstreamed and empowered white supremacy in the United States to a level unseen in the last 50 years.

As a brown skinned Muslim, I'm pretty sure I know that racism existed pre-Trump.

Where you from Brooklyn..If you don't mind me asking

I'm from New Jersey.

I ask because I'm a "brown skinned Muslim" as well. If you would prefer to ignore my question, then ignore it or tell me you mind that I ask. Otherwise, Welcome to New Jersey

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[Hello Brooklyn]

Where you from Brooklyn..If you don't mind me asking

I'm from New Jersey.

I ask because I'm a "brown skinned Muslim" as well. If you would prefer to ignore my question, then ignore it or tell me you mind that I ask. Otherwise, Welcome to New Jersey

LOL I don't get it dude. What are you asking?

I am from and live in New Jersey.

I have no association with Brooklyn at all.

[J_LA]

I'm from New Jersey.

I ask because I'm a "brown skinned Muslim" as well. If you would prefer to ignore my question, then ignore it or tell me you mind that I ask. Otherwise, Welcome to New Jersey

LOL I don't get it dude. What are you asking?

I am from and live in New Jersey.

I have no association with Brooklyn at all.

My apologies

[MrDollarBills]

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he's trying to cause chaos/racial tension because Robert Mueller is set to interview several white house staffers in the coming days.

As CNN previously reported, among the people Mueller has expressed interest in speaking with are former and current White House staffers whom investigators consider witnesses, including former chief of staff Reince Priebus, former press secretary Sean Spicer, communications director Hope Hicks, White House counsel Don McGahn, communications adviser Josh Raffel and associate counsel James Burnham.

Dotard Trump and Mike Pence won't be sleeping well after next week.

[LostInACrowd]

if you honestly believe you are righteous enough to criticize a black person for their skepticism towards the government you can go f yourself


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There's nothing wrong with government skepticism. But you can't deny that Trump has give white supremacy an open platform in this country that hasn't been seen in decades.

I won't go as far as to say these problems did not exist when Barack was in office, but Trump has exacerbated damn near everything.

Trump openly threatens North Korea on twitter. There's a huge difference between doing that, and behaving like an adult and letting diplomats and the SoS operate diplomatically to diffuse tensions.

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The coward carrying a tiki torch who's uneducated as to how the world actually works is not the person I fear.

I fear the person I don't see, who's passing the subtly insidious policies that keep hospitals distant from poor communities, the teacher that dgaf about the success of the students that don't look like her children, the police chief who hires officers with a track record of abusing their communities. A candidate that convinces you these issues no longer exist, or the country is 'post race' is far more insidious than the one that puts it in your face.


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The problem is that Trump isn't just a candidate. He is the POTUS. He has the power to do more than just put it in your face.

Those people that you fear, well now he is empowering them and putting some of them into positions of greater power and influence.

[Reflexx]

Hit dogs always hollar. Always.

Sorry champ, this "not all Trumpets are racist and Trump isn't one either" garbage you're on went out the window after Charlottesville. If the implication that Trump supporters are racist, Nazi sympathizing garbage upsets you, maybe you need some serious self reflection.

Maybe go check out Breitbart's comment section sometime and see exactly just how Trump's base behaves and then come back to me yelling "ignorance".

I've done a lot of self reflection. And I still conclude much of the country has lost their damn minds.

You're under the impression that comments on a site like Breitbart somehow represent a large percentage of Americans. I think that conclusion is asinine. Breitbart is a cesspool that has attracted vermin from around the country and allowed them to all congregate in one place. But that is in no way representative of regular people.

In fact, to make such an assumption is the definition of prejudice and stereotyping.

As for it upsetting me... it doesn't. Well, not too much. I've grown numb to the stupidity that is permeating both sides. People are more interested in casting people they disagree with as the worst kinds of villains instead of using their brains and actually realizing that both sides are falling prey to being manipulated.

The worst part is that both sides agree that people are being manipulated into being hateful... but they always claim it's the "other side" that is being manipulated.

News flash. It's both.

^^here we have an example of typical "whataboutism" or deflecting by trying to paint people who point out the racism of Trump and his base as the ones who are prejudiced and stereotyping.

"Both sides"?

One side has people in open support of a racist authoritarian nutjob because he panders to the dregs of American society with segments of them openly calling for ethnic cleansing and open hatred/abuse towards minority americans. The other has people of all backgrounds and ethnicity who are appalled by this rhetoric and behavior (as any sane person would). The only ones who have lost their damn minds are the enablers and sympathizers of Trump's base like you.

You don't get to play the both sides game when this man has enabled neo nazis to walk in American streets chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", what the hell is wrong with you?

Your stinking white privilege allows you to play the both sides game because these people don't have their venom aimed towards you. I however, cannot afford to do so.

First, you don't know what "whataboutism" is. I stated that you're being duped and manipulated into hating others, and people on the right are also being duped. You clearly didn't read, or you didn't understand.

As for your argument about "one side" having this, or the other side having that. Stupid. Completely stupid. You don't judge an argument by what people happen to also agree with that argument (especially when they are a minuscule percentage). You judge an argument based on facts, logic, and its merits. Seriously. This is not rocket science. You're basing your positing on your own prejudices and bigotry. You're basically doing exactly what you claim those you hate are doing.

If a klansman said that 1+1=2, and you said that 1+2=2, does that make you a supporter of the klansman? It's such a childish argument that I'm surprised so many people buy into it.

As for my "white privilege"... I'm not anywhere close to white. In fact, when I was young and dumb I used to fear white people and think the same way you did. But then I grew up and actually started thinking critically.

You should make arguments based on the merits of a position. You should do so logically and support it with facts.

I'm quite frankly disgusted at how easily people paint huge swaths of people as racists without evidence. The act of doing so is bigotry, and real self-reflection is the realization of this and advancing causes based on rational thought instead of emotions.

[MrDollarBills]

I've done a lot of self reflection. And I still conclude much of the country has lost their damn minds.

You're under the impression that comments on a site like Breitbart somehow represent a large percentage of Americans. I think that conclusion is asinine. Breitbart is a cesspool that has attracted vermin from around the country and allowed them to all congregate in one place. But that is in no way representative of regular people.

In fact, to make such an assumption is the definition of prejudice and stereotyping.

As for it upsetting me... it doesn't. Well, not too much. I've grown numb to the stupidity that is permeating both sides. People are more interested in casting people they disagree with as the worst kinds of villains instead of using their brains and actually realizing that both sides are falling prey to being manipulated.

The worst part is that both sides agree that people are being manipulated into being hateful... but they always claim it's the "other side" that is being manipulated.

News flash. It's both.

^^here we have an example of typical "whataboutism" or deflecting by trying to paint people who point out the racism of Trump and his base as the ones who are prejudiced and stereotyping.

"Both sides"?

One side has people in open support of a racist authoritarian nutjob because he panders to the dregs of American society with segments of them openly calling for ethnic cleansing and open hatred/abuse towards minority americans. The other has people of all backgrounds and ethnicity who are appalled by this rhetoric and behavior (as any sane person would). The only ones who have lost their damn minds are the enablers and sympathizers of Trump's base like you.

You don't get to play the both sides game when this man has enabled neo nazis to walk in American streets chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", what the hell is wrong with you?

Your stinking white privilege allows you to play the both sides game because these people don't have their venom aimed towards you. I however, cannot afford to do so.

First, you don't know what "whataboutism" is. I stated that you're being duped and manipulated into hating others, and people on the right are also being duped. You clearly didn't read, or you didn't understand.

As for your argument about "one side" having this, or the other side having that. Stupid. Completely stupid. You don't judge an argument by what people happen to also agree with that argument (especially when they are a minuscule percentage). You judge an argument based on facts, logic, and its merits. Seriously. This is not rocket science. You're basing your positing on your own prejudices and bigotry. You're basically doing exactly what you claim those you hate are doing.

If a klansman said that 1+1=2, and you said that 1+2=2, does that make you a supporter of the klansman? It's such a childish argument that I'm surprised so many people buy into it.

As for my "white privilege"... I'm not anywhere close to white. In fact, when I was young and dumb I used to fear white people and think the same way you did. But then I grew up and actually started thinking critically.

You should make arguments based on the merits of a position. You should do so logically and support it with facts.

I'm quite frankly disgusted at how easily people paint huge swaths of people as racists without evidence. The act of doing so is bigotry, and real self-reflection is the realization of this and advancing causes based on rational thought instead of emotions.

without evidence...lol. you seriously think that at this stage of the game there is zero evidence that the remaining 34% or lower that still cling to Trump aren't racist trash?

okay chief. you hold tight on to your "both sides" argument. even if you're not white, you're clearly naive. the same people you're trying to defend don't even want you on this soil...your self hatred is nauseating.

Again. You fall directly into the playbook of pepe frog trolls and right wing agitators when you use this "you're the one that's bigoted and hateful because you have a problem with people who are bigoted and hateful!" garbage.

You're calling me a bigot for taking people to task who support a white supremacist demagogue and either a) agree with him or b) have no problem with what he says, does, or enables. it speaks for itself.

if you're a person of color like you claim...you may want to check yourself. the extremist end of the spectrum that Trump appeals to would have no problem beating the hell your dumb ass or even killing you. wake up.