Trade Targets

[bobbyc]

Easy, that team needs to start another rebuild process.

SAC in Hump, Tele, Brooks, CHildress, Watson, Bogans, Stack, Taylor, 2 1sts
BKN in Cousins, Salmons, Thorton, Hayes,

saves them near 40 mil during the next 3 years.

Thorton gives us scoring and shooting. Cousins brings the pain in the paint that is needed.

[N Ireland Nets]

Easy, that team needs to start another rebuild process.

SAC in Hump, Tele, Brooks, CHildress, Watson, Bogans, Stack, Taylor, 2 1sts
BKN in Cousins, Salmons, Thorton, Hayes,

saves them near 40 mil during the next 3 years.

Thorton gives us scoring and shooting. Cousins brings the pain in the paint that is needed.

I'd do that deal in a heart beat.

I would look to do a similar deal but maybe a 3 team deal where we give them hump & they send back something of value to give to the kings where we eat the salary & the kings take the decent pieces.

Whatever happens about a possible trade, I'd look to keep Williams, Johnson, Wallace, Lopez, Blatche, Evans & Toko. The rest can go.

Here's a huge trade that would never happen but its all good fun lol




The raptors get a hard nosed rebounder while giving up an expiring.

The Kings save roughly $17m by getting rid of Salmons and Thornton in a package with cousins while taking on smaller deals and a huge expiring in Calderon. Could also add Taylor in here and take on Jimmer's contract as well saving further cash for the Kings.

Atlanta gets a legit centre to let Horford move to the 4 spot to make a legit big man combo.

Brooklyn takes on huge salary but gets a starting five of:

Williams
Johnson
Wallace
Smith
Cousins

It's never happening but hey wouldn't it be fun haha love it!!!

[vincecarter4pres]

On paper that's a crazy lineup, but I feel like Josh Smith and Cousins would light Brooklyn on fire. Literally.

[REGG-G-UNIT]

I just went in on a facebook post on how overrated Cousins is but I think you guys are underselling his trade value / value to the Kings / the Kings obsession with him...

P.S. Pasty Face Kawahi Leonard is back, so you can take him off of IR (I bet you forgot you had that fool since he's been hurt for so long )

[N Ireland Nets]

On paper that's a crazy lineup, but I feel like Josh Smith and Cousins would light Brooklyn on fire. Literally.

Changed it up to take more salary off the kings taking Jimmer & sending Taylor.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6185149





Brooklyn roster would be:

Williams / Watson / Jimmer
Johnson / Thornton / Bogans
Wallace / Salmons / Toko
Smith / Evans
Cousins / Blatche

With two spare roster spots left open. God that team would be nice to watch minus Avery haha

[N Ireland Nets]

I just went in on a facebook post on how overrated Cousins is but I think you guys are underselling his trade value / value to the Kings / the Kings obsession with him...

P.S. Pasty Face Kawahi Leonard is back, so you can take him off of IR (I bet you forgot you had that fool since he's been hurt for so long )

That crazy 4 team trade basically leaves the kings with Brooks, Taylor and Teletovic plus 2 1st round picks and something like $19-20m in savings. We could even send $3m in the deal which obviously gives them some money to line their pockets with.

I believe your over valuing Cousins right now. His name is in the dirt, he has clashed with the last to head coaches and got the first one fired. He's a head case who has been a cancer in Sacramento.

The kings are going to be doing well to get a decent prospects and picks for him due to his rep being at an all time low.

Can't see many deals taking huge salary off the kings while giving two firsts and a couple of prospects. This deal would let the kings go full tank mode while keeping the Robinson to build around with Brooks, Thomas, Taylor and Evans if they want to keep him.

[bobbyc]

Blatche can go. We can not sign him next year. If a team is willing to give us something more long term, it should be a done deal. He has some value now too.

Keep Lopez, Joe, Gforce, williams, evans, watson. Everyone else should go for a bigman and volume scorer/ shooter that will be on this team for a couple years. Like Cousins and thorton.

[N Ireland Nets]

Blatche can go. We can not sign him next year. If a team is willing to give us something more long term, it should be a done deal. He has some value now too.

Keep Lopez, Joe, Gforce, williams, evans, watson. Everyone else should go for a bigman and volume scorer/ shooter that will be on this team for a couple years. Like Cousins and thorton.

A guy on NetsDaily made a post to explaining how due to Blatche being amnestied he really would only lose out on a couple of hundred grand by signing a 1 year deal of the 120% his previous years salary that Brooklyn can pay him.

When I find it ill post it in here

[N Ireland Nets]

Cousins has fired his agent now and hired the familiar name we all love....

[quote]“@mr_jasonjones: DeMarcus Cousins has also fired his agent John Greig to go with Dan Fegan.”[\quote]

Hopefully this helps us in pursuit of picking up Cousins for Hump youngster picks and cap relief.

Right after we fire Avery.

Fegan owes us one for the whole botched Howard situation.

[Paradise]

So...the answer to getting us over the hump is getting Mr. Inefficient and lack of effort, Cousins with a bad attitude? Way too risky.

Anything more than Hump, Brooks, Taylor, Tele, Toko + picks is a no go.

[Jersey Generals]

Anything more than Hump, Brooks, Taylor, Tele, Toko + picks is a no go.

What else is there?

[jeff1624]

I'd do Blatche, Brooks, Tele and a 1st for Cousins.

[therealbig3]

I'd look to trade Lopez to be honest. He's been awesome this year, and our best player...but we're not going very far with him as our best player, and his defense has been very up and down. He's been quite good in some games, and then truly awful in other games.

And especially since we need defense...I'd really consider trading Lopez away for maybe a lesser overall player, but a player that gives us a lot more on defense. Maybe package Lopez/Hump/Brooks/Tele/draft picks for a PF/C combo that is rock solid defensively, and gives us a little bit of offense. Maybe a stretch 4 and a defensive center. And that way, the offense runs through Deron and JJ more, as it should.

[Ronito]

What do you guys think of something like this come Jan.15th:

BKN sends Lopez, Brooks, Hump, Tele
BKN receives K-Love, Aaron Gray, Fredette

Why: BK gets a more mobile offensive threat and rebounder. D-Will ecstatic over PnR/PnP with Love. Gets pure shooter in Fredette to bolster bench scoring.

SAC sends Cousins, Isaiah Thomas, Fredette
SAC receives Calderon, valanciunas, D-Will

Why: The take a low risk, high reward chance on D-Will. Replace Cousins with high lotto big in Valanciunas (Maybe not be as talented as Cousins, but is def not the headcase and still has good upside), and they get a legitimate starting PG.

MIN sends Love, D-Will,
MIN receives Lopez, Brooks, Tele

Why: Resolves what will almost inevitable become a problem with retaining K-Love by getting Brook and pairing him with Pek in the frontcourt, replace Roy with MarShon and give him a chance to be a legit SG. Even though most Nets fans don't want him, many other teams still view him as a high prospect.

TOR sends Calderon, Valanciunas, Gray
TOR receives Isaiah Thomas, Cousins, Hump

Why: TOR is desperate to become relevant, especially after Colangelo traded away their draft pick. Getting Cousins is a big move, which could blow up in the end or put TOR on the map. Get Isaiah Thomas on a very good deal to be starting PG. Hump is a salary filler but he also becomes a big expiring next year.

It's big and complicated but I think it solves a lot of problems for everyone.

Why would Minnesota want Lopez? He doesn't fit with Pek.

Kevin love is the deron Williams of pf's
Horrific shooting, no defense, bad attitude, enitled fake superstars

He's having a down year in terms of shooting. A four that can shoot 3s is horrific?

I'd look to trade Lopez to be honest. He's been awesome this year, and our best player...but we're not going very far with him as our best player, and his defense has been very up and down. He's been quite good in some games, and then truly awful in other games.

And especially since we need defense...I'd really consider trading Lopez away for maybe a lesser overall player, but a player that gives us a lot more on defense. Maybe package Lopez/Hump/Brooks/Tele/draft picks for a PF/C combo that is rock solid defensively, and gives us a little bit of offense. Maybe a stretch 4 and a defensive center. And that way, the offense runs through Deron and JJ more, as it should.

It's not his job to be our best player. That's Deron's job and he isn't doing a good job there.

[therealbig3]

It's not his job to be our best player. That's Deron's job and he isn't doing a good job there.

Exactly, and I think we're screwed unless Deron gets his head out of his ass and actually plays like a top notch PG. If he continues to play like the 2nd or 3rd option, and Lopez is the guy we depend on night in and night out...we're not winning 50 games, and we're not doing anything in the playoffs. And our defense will suck if Lopez once again has to be the offensive centerpiece. Nothing against Lopez, and he's a great #2/#3, but he's not good enough to be a #1 on a 2nd round-caliber team. Deron, when he's not playing like a jackass, is that good.

I love Lopez as a 2nd or 3rd option, but to me, it's a question of what's more important for us...defense/rebounding, or a 2nd option on offense? Right now, it's clear that it's defense and rebounding that would take us to the next level. We have a perfectly acceptable 2nd option in JJ, who has played much better as of late. And, Lopez's injury concerns are always going to be there unless he completely erases all doubts by almost never missing games again. If we can trade him while he's having a career year, we can get a very solid return that could probably better suit our needs as a team, and we wouldn't need to depend on a guy with foot problems to be extraordinarily healthy.

[therealbig3]

I'm also really opposed to the idea of trading for Cousins. I usually don't care for all the "headcase"/"cancer" descriptions of some players, because a lot of times, those are used by people that really don't know anything about the situation, and the player could really not be that bad of a person...but Cousins really is a piece of crap, and an immature, whiny tool.

We're already having problems with our supposed leader Deron...and you want Demarcus Cousins around?

Cousins' talent and potential is very overrated...terrible volume scorer, not a good defender, and just a whiny brat that's always looking for calls. Good rebounder and passer, but that's pretty much it.

Honestly, the same criticisms of Blatche can be thrown at Cousins. At least for Blatche, he really was in a horrible situation with zero coaching. Cousins has been coached by Westphal and Smart, two coaches that I actually think are pretty good, and has now had a beef with both of them.

[AntwanBoldin]

^ you're Jack reaching

[Ronito]

It's not his job to be our best player. That's Deron's job and he isn't doing a good job there.

Exactly, and I think we're screwed unless Deron gets his head out of his ass and actually plays like a top notch PG. If he continues to play like the 2nd or 3rd option, and Lopez is the guy we depend on night in and night out...we're not winning 50 games, and we're not doing anything in the playoffs. And our defense will suck if Lopez once again has to be the offensive centerpiece. Nothing against Lopez, and he's a great #2/#3, but he's not good enough to be a #1 on a 2nd round-caliber team. Deron, when he's not playing like a jackass, is that good.

I love Lopez as a 2nd or 3rd option, but to me, it's a question of what's more important for us...defense/rebounding, or a 2nd option on offense? Right now, it's clear that it's defense and rebounding that would take us to the next level. We have a perfectly acceptable 2nd option in JJ, who has played much better as of late. And, Lopez's injury concerns are always going to be there unless he completely erases all doubts by almost never missing games again. If we can trade him while he's having a career year, we can get a very solid return that could probably better suit our needs as a team, and we wouldn't need to depend on a guy with foot problems to be extraordinarily healthy.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of this, but I'm not sure if that kind of trade is available nor am I good with coming up with trades.

If I'm the GM, I'd be open to trading Lopez, yes. But I'd want a five that can play defense/rebound and score without the ball. I might also want something in addition too. Someone like Asik or Chandler fit the bill perfectly, but obviously there's a 0% chance of Tyson being a Net.

[therealbig3]

^ you're Jack reaching

Seriously, how are Cousins's flaws and character issues any more forgivable than Blatche's? How has he proven that he's anything more than an inefficient volume scorer on a crap team, just like Blatche was with the Wizards (a fact that he got destroyed for over the summer on this board)?

In fact, I'd say that Cousins's off-court stuff worries me a hell of a lot more than Blatche's.

[N Ireland Nets]

Cousin's value is in the dirt, we have to try and take advantage of the situation to bring in a big with rare talent that is without doubt worth the potential reward.

If we can bring in Cousins would our assets, I would immediately start looking to bring in a legit PF like Josh Smith is a straight up swap for Lopez approaching the deadline or in the middle of Jan.

We could afford to move Lopez if we were able to bring in cousins obviously. Cousins is a legit 20/10 guy who has the potential to be a hugely dominate big man.

First thing I'd do right now is fire Avery. Then sort putting pieces to a Cousins trade together because he is a good player that could potentially be hard for our assets we currently own.

There just isn't many options available to us for a major upgrade and that's exactly what Cousins would be.

In short, trade for Cousins, then stick Lopez on the block or in trades to bring in a good PF.