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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#501 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:22 am

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Read on Twitter


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we have potential to be alot better defensively this year


yep. Honestly, would not shock me if the Nets had this guy targeted hardcore the entire time. switch on everything, defend the rim.

in 2 years time, we will be winning 4th qtrs. why? because we won't be getting done in by 1-5/2-5 pick and pop plays.
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Post#502 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:23 am

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CalamityX12 wrote:he reminds me of someone... but who????

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foul. you've just marked the poor kid before he even got to take media day pics :lol:

i approve. his fro is quite potent.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#504 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:24 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Mkdaman1818 wrote:Kenny:

Read on Twitter


this is why i love kenny. he gets it.

we have potential to be alot better defensively this year


yep. Honestly, would not shock me if the Nets had this guy targeted hardcore the entire time. switch on everything, defend the rim.

in 2 years time, we will be winning 4th qtrs. why? because we won't be getting done in by 1-5/2-5 pick and pop plays.

I'm betting he was high on their board, but supposedly they were trying hard to get up to 15 from the Blazers to grab Wilson.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#505 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:25 am

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Jersey Generals wrote:See, they're McDonalds, I'm McDowells. They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs. See, they got Kristaps Porzingis, I got DeAngelo Russell. We both got two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce cheese, but they got a sesame seed bun. Mine got no picks.

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#506 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:26 am

Prokorov wrote:Russell | Levert | Porter || RHJ | Allen

thats a sick young team if we can pry porter from the wiz

Porter would be such a great fit at either Forward position. I'd try to engage Washington in a S&T, so that they don't match.

Similarly, Gallinari would be a solid plan B even though he's injury prone.
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Post#507 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:26 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
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vincecarter4pres wrote:Wait, I got it...

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At least post the goddamn clip with the best song ever made:


foul. you've just marked the poor kid before he even got to take media day pics :lol:

i approve. his fro is quite potent.

What's his official nickname? Daryl Allen? Soul Glo? Big Game Jenks?
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#508 » by Netaman » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:27 am

I'm sure they liked a lot of the same things about Wilson, plus the fact that he can shoot. Doesn't matter much either way, guys were probably right next to each other on their board so good to get 1 of them. For where this team is getting the younger guy might be a good thing even if he's raw.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#509 » by 13th Man » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:27 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/sports/nba-draft.html?mcubz=0

22. Nets Get Jarrett Allen as Replacement for Brook Lopez
Jarrett Allen, 6’11” Center, Texas
19 years old

Allen is an enormous center, with long arms making him bigger than his 6-foot-11 height, and huge hands (they were measured at a combine-high 9.5 inches) that help him be a top-notch rebounder. Despite the size, he is still considered a serious athlete and has enough mobility, and a solid mid-range jumper, to survive in the rapidly-evolving league that has fallen out of love with traditional big men. He could stand to put on some muscle, and is a brutal shooter from the free-throw line, but most of the flaws in his game are fixable if he’s willing to work hard.

Quotable: “Personally, I think I can help all of them. Every team has an area that I can offer some help.”—Allen, on what teams he would be able to help.

How he fits: Allen had been the top player left on most draft boards for quite a while, so the Nets seemingly got a bargain with the 22nd pick. They may have found a reasonable replacement for Brook Lopez, who left in the D’Angelo Russell trade. If Timofey Mozgov is healthy enough to play, that will take some pressure off of Allen to develop immediately.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#510 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:28 am

USA Today
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Brooklyn Nets: C Jarrett Allen, Texas

Allen entered the season as the favorite to be the first center off the board, but his freshman year had plenty of bumps. Still, his huge wingspan and great athleticism project to allow him to become an elite defender. The Nets are all about potential at this point, and Allen is a great pick in that regard, while he might even start next season if they are willing to take his learning curve in stride.

Grade: A

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2017/06/22/2017-nba-draft-tracker-live-picks-analysis-grades/420430001/


The Ringer
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Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, C, Texas
Allen was seen as a possible lottery pick coming into the season, but an up-and-down year on a Texas team without a point guard or much 3-point shooting depressed his draft stock. Brooklyn may end up benefiting from Allen’s difficult college situation, as centers with his skill and athleticism (and a 7-foot-5 wingspan) are rarely available this late in the first round. While he will need to get stronger, develop his perimeter jumper, and learn to leverage his length on the defensive end of the floor, he has all the tools to be an excellent two-way center in today’s game.
Value: A
Fit: A

https://theringer.com/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87


Bleacher Report
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Don't be fooled by Jarrett Allen's hair. Even though the tip of his afro might reach well over seven feet into the air, he's really only 6'10". But don't let that fool you, either. With his 7'5" wingspan, he's still capable of functioning as a standalone interior defender who can shut down the paint and force opponents into awkward shots.

The Brooklyn Nets needed a replacement for Brook Lopez after trading him to the Los Angeles Lakers for a package centered around D'Angelo Russell, and they've found one. He just doesn't play nearly the same game, since Allen is defined by his rebounding, athleticism and knack for rolling to the hoop to finish plays in the restricted area.

Adjusting to this style might be difficult. But especially if Allen can add a perimeter jumper—he went 0-of-7 from beyond the arc during his lone season as a Longhorn—it'll be well worth the stylistic shift.



Grade: B+

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2717322-2017-nba-draft-grades-for-every-pick


CBS Sports
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Huge potential in athletic big man. Has the measurables, but can he develop a better offensive game? B+

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/drafttracker


SI.com
Spoiler:
Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, Texas

Everyone was expecting the Nets to take a big risk here, and that’s exactly what they did. Allen has impressive physical tools, but has a lot of learning to do. He improved over the course of the season at Texas, which helps his cause a little bit, but scouts were mixed about whether or not Allen would ever tap into his full potential. It’s smart in theory and certainly justifiable, but there’s equal reason to be skeptical. The good news is that Brooklyn can afford to wait and see. Grade: B–

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/nba-draft-grades-players-teams-76ers-lakers-celtics
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Post#511 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:29 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:What's his official nickname? Daryl Allen? Soul Glo? Big Game Jenks?


SOUL GLO! YES!
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Post#512 » by Netaman » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:29 am

Porter is starting to look like a pretty perfect fit for this team.
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Post#513 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:29 am

MrDollarBills wrote:yep. Honestly, would not shock me if the Nets had this guy targeted hardcore the entire time. switch on everything, defend the rim.

in 2 years time, we will be winning 4th qtrs. why? because we won't be getting done in by 1-5/2-5 pick and pop plays.

We'll be getting rebounds.....
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#514 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:29 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
this is why i love kenny. he gets it.

we have potential to be alot better defensively this year


yep. Honestly, would not shock me if the Nets had this guy targeted hardcore the entire time. switch on everything, defend the rim.

in 2 years time, we will be winning 4th qtrs. why? because we won't be getting done in by 1-5/2-5 pick and pop plays.

I'm betting he was high on their board, but supposedly they were trying hard to get up to 15 from the Blazers to grab Wilson.



yeah, i would have liked him too. but this kid pretty much is brooklyn grit. he seems pretty chill too from his interview, not really emotional about the moment. reminds me a bit of caris in that regard.
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Post#515 » by treiz » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:29 am

I'm fully aboard team Soul Glo
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#516 » by Born_Ready » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:30 am

Allen has serious upside and I love that Brooklyn is thinking long-term. My only knock on him is he doesn't seem to fully be engaged during games. I know KA won't allow said inconsistencies so I can ride with this selection.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#517 » by FlipFlopShot » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:30 am

Rich Rane wrote:USA Today
Spoiler:
Brooklyn Nets: C Jarrett Allen, Texas

Allen entered the season as the favorite to be the first center off the board, but his freshman year had plenty of bumps. Still, his huge wingspan and great athleticism project to allow him to become an elite defender. The Nets are all about potential at this point, and Allen is a great pick in that regard, while he might even start next season if they are willing to take his learning curve in stride.

Grade: A

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/draft/2017/06/22/2017-nba-draft-tracker-live-picks-analysis-grades/420430001/


The Ringer
Spoiler:
Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, C, Texas
Allen was seen as a possible lottery pick coming into the season, but an up-and-down year on a Texas team without a point guard or much 3-point shooting depressed his draft stock. Brooklyn may end up benefiting from Allen’s difficult college situation, as centers with his skill and athleticism (and a 7-foot-5 wingspan) are rarely available this late in the first round. While he will need to get stronger, develop his perimeter jumper, and learn to leverage his length on the defensive end of the floor, he has all the tools to be an excellent two-way center in today’s game.
Value: A
Fit: A

https://theringer.com/2017-nba-draft-grading-the-picks-8302d41fac87


Bleacher Report
Spoiler:
Don't be fooled by Jarrett Allen's hair. Even though the tip of his afro might reach well over seven feet into the air, he's really only 6'10". But don't let that fool you, either. With his 7'5" wingspan, he's still capable of functioning as a standalone interior defender who can shut down the paint and force opponents into awkward shots.

The Brooklyn Nets needed a replacement for Brook Lopez after trading him to the Los Angeles Lakers for a package centered around D'Angelo Russell, and they've found one. He just doesn't play nearly the same game, since Allen is defined by his rebounding, athleticism and knack for rolling to the hoop to finish plays in the restricted area.

Adjusting to this style might be difficult. But especially if Allen can add a perimeter jumper—he went 0-of-7 from beyond the arc during his lone season as a Longhorn—it'll be well worth the stylistic shift.



Grade: B+

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2717322-2017-nba-draft-grades-for-every-pick


CBS Sports
Spoiler:
Huge potential in athletic big man. Has the measurables, but can he develop a better offensive game? B+

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/drafttracker


SI.com
Spoiler:
Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, Texas

Everyone was expecting the Nets to take a big risk here, and that’s exactly what they did. Allen has impressive physical tools, but has a lot of learning to do. He improved over the course of the season at Texas, which helps his cause a little bit, but scouts were mixed about whether or not Allen would ever tap into his full potential. It’s smart in theory and certainly justifiable, but there’s equal reason to be skeptical. The good news is that Brooklyn can afford to wait and see. Grade: B–

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/nba-draft-grades-players-teams-76ers-lakers-celtics


B-, who else they think we should have gotten?
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Post#518 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:30 am

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#519 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:30 am

Prokorov wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:Can he shoot threes?


no... he didnt even attempt them. so maybe he can develop it but he didnt take them. he kind of just scores in transition or on dunks. he doesnt really look to do much on offense. he is a defender who finishes everything. perfect fit. glad we took him. was worried the lack of threes would sway markinson. they are too smart for that :)

gun to my head i may still have gone patton cause of offensive upside. but this is the best i could have hoped for

I guess he'll have to get his FT better first, then Atkinson will probably try to get him to practice the three.

Sounds like a good target for Lin/LVJ/DRuss' passes and lobs, exciting
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Post#520 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:32 am

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