Kyrie Wants Out

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[Hello Brooklyn]

Honestly its still wild to me that Kyrie was just saying that Harden was half way out of the locker room. And just last week he said we were the best team in the NBA.

Then suddenly he wants to abandon ship because we didn't give him a max contract offer that no other team in the league would give either.

Guy is bi polar on another level. I can't imagine having to deal with that for 4 years. Marks must have gone crazy.

[Karate Diop]

I read that the nets didn't want Wood at all, I wonder why? he would of been a nice fit here. We could of added Harris with kyrie and they add Wood with the packaged we got. Not sure why Nets didn't take it.

He's another headcase.

He's basically a modern Andray Blatche. Thank God the Nets didn't get stuck with him...

[Marvin Martian]

Guys we're stuck with Simmons right now, unless we give up those 3 picks but then we won't be able to get another star player . I rather use one 1st to get a guy like Clarkson. Lavine is damaged goods. I don't want Trae Young. Siakam and OG would be nice but Raptors want an arm and a leg for each. And other teams don't seem like they're blowing it up right now so I doubt we get Dame or Beal etc..

Siakam is definitely attainable. It makes no sense for the Raptors to continue holding on to him and OG and ruin their draft position year after year. They need to build around Barnes. Siakam and OG do not fit the timeline. If the Nets offer Ben and picks, they should take it.

No we shouldn't. I don't think you've yet grasp the concept that Ben Simmons on his current contract is the worst contract in the league right now and is a giant negative asset. Siakam has gotten better and better every single year and is currently having his best season averaging 25/8/6. He's added to his game every year. It's refreshing to see a player work hard on his game to take his game to the next level year after year, we haven't even yet reached his peak yet. And then you have Ben Simmons, who's basically the complete opposite of Siakam when it comes to work ethic and commitment. So tell me again why would the Raptors even consider Ben? There's no amount of picks that you can attach to not make Masai burst out in laughter and hang up the phone.

You are right. Siakam has gotten better. But how does that benefit the Raptors who are currently on the treadmill of mediocrity? He is 28. Every year that they don't trade Siakam and OG is another year fighting for a play in spot instead of tanking and getting young star talent to pair with Barnes.

Ben Simmons can accelerate a rebuild with his poor play, he will be a future expiring contract and give Barnes the keys to the franchise.


In a few years, the Raptors will have a huge expiring contract, a better Barnes and young talent if they do a Ben Simmons deal. If they stay pat, they get bounced in the play in

[mg]

How about a simple Dinwiddie for Van Vleet trade? Raps would probably demand a draft pick but it works one on one in the checker. Ultimately dealing Kyrie for FVV+DFS is actually a good trade that can help them in the playoffs.

Ben probably needs to be eventually moved but it just seems too optimistic to expect another trade of that magnitude by Thursday.

[dirkules_41]

I read that the nets didn't want Wood at all, I wonder why? he would of been a nice fit here. We could of added Harris with kyrie and they add Wood with the packaged we got. Not sure why Nets didn't take it.

He's another headcase.

He's basically a modern Andray Blatche. Thank God the Nets didn't get stuck with him...

I know it looks like the Mavs FO feels differently but amongst us fans we're generally all quite positive on him. Plays hard and shoots well, can get looks around the basket and made some big defensive stops before he got hurt. Just gets lost on D too much in rotations, etc.

[dirkules_41]

Question for you guys: Does Markieff have anything left in the tank or is he a pure salary/roster slot filler at this point? Looks like he barely saw the floor for you guys and tbh I haven't watched any Brooklyn games other than the ones against the Mavs.

[ArksNetsSince99]

i'm not going to debate siakam's worth. i'm giving you the perspective of what masai would expect in return. the deal you proposed is awful for the raptors.

ben simmons has negative value. you want to bring up siakam not making the all star team this year (putting up all star numbers but team record wasn't good), fine. then are you ready to talk about ben simmons this year? the guy afraid to shoot or make a layup?

westbrook has more value than ben b/c he's expiring. i think you need to accept that. that's the landscape of the nba right now.

masai is not dumping siakam for a useless player on an awful deal and one frp.
masai is not going to dump og (whom everyone says is highly sought after) w/o claxton b/c the nets have nothing else of worth to offer. masai doesn't want picks 5 years from now. he likes to re-tool with talent, not go scorched earth.

The Raptors best chance to contend is to suck right now and rebuild.

If they can get two valuable picks and a former All Star player coming off injury it would make sense to do so.

The idea that Simmons has negative value because hes had a poor return to form after injury is idiotic. How many times have we seen all star players need time to get back to normal?

The problem is the Nets timeline is this year because of KD's age.

The Raptors could easily wait till next season and have Simmons playing at a high level again. Along with Barnes and a top draft pick.

That would make a lot more sense than taking back another deal with no good young players.

HB. With all due respect , the only one delusional and homer here it’s You

Stop talking bs , read what you wrote , it’s all one big BS

You selling Simmons like he is next fooocking great thing since sliced bread while you know he is dog s$it

[sashaturiaf]

Honestly its still wild to me that Kyrie was just saying that Harden was half way out of the locker room. And just last week he said we were the best team in the NBA.

Then suddenly he wants to abandon ship because we didn't give him a max contract offer that no other team in the league would give either.

Guy is bi polar on another level. I can't imagine having to deal with that for 4 years. Marks must have gone crazy.

Honestly I like everybody else am sick of the endless Kyrie drama so in a way I'm happy he's finally gone, however I blame the front office more than Ky for this. Kyrie has been reckless with how he doesn't fully consider the impact of his actions, the front office on the other hand has done everything they can to undermine and patronise Kyrie as a person during it, from suspending him voluntarily for the vaccine stance, to the 6 demands during the tweet fiasco, and to top it off you've got degrading stipulations in the new contract negotiations.

I mean Kyrie is an all-star starter, all-NBA caliber guy, if this is the sort of treatment he gets the front office I don't blame Kyrie at all for thinking it's just their way of telling him he is not wanted here. It's clear the Nets didn't want to pay Kyrie beyond this season and they got their wish.

Now let's see Marks and Tsai's grand plan eventuate. Can they keep KD happy?? If not, I got a feeling we might be saying take us back to the KD/Kyrie days in a few months time.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Question for you guys: Does Markieff have anything left in the tank or is he a pure salary/roster slot filler at this point? Looks like he barely saw the floor for you guys and tbh I haven't watched any Brooklyn games other than the ones against the Mavs.

Washed , salary filler , poop

[ArksNetsSince99]

Honestly its still wild to me that Kyrie was just saying that Harden was half way out of the locker room. And just last week he said we were the best team in the NBA.

Then suddenly he wants to abandon ship because we didn't give him a max contract offer that no other team in the league would give either.

Guy is bi polar on another level. I can't imagine having to deal with that for 4 years. Marks must have gone crazy.

Honestly I like everybody else am sick of the endless Kyrie drama so in a way I'm happy he's finally gone, however I blame the front office more than Ky for this. Kyrie has been reckless with how he doesn't fully consider the impact of his actions, the front office on the other hand has done everything they can to undermine and patronise Kyrie as a person during it, from suspending him voluntarily for the vaccine stance, to the 6 demands during the tweet fiasco, and to top it off you've got degrading stipulations in the new contract negotiations.

I mean Kyrie is an all-star starter, all-NBA caliber guy, if this is the sort of treatment he gets the front office I don't blame Kyrie at all for thinking it's just their way of telling him he is not wanted here. It's clear the Nets didn't want to pay Kyrie beyond this season and they got their wish.

Now let's see Marks and Tsai's grand plan eventuate. Can they keep KD happy?? If not, I got a feeling we might be saying take us back to the KD/Kyrie days in a few months time.

Whole fooocking 27 pages , this is a win , smartest post I read here bar none

We’ll dome Sashaturiaf

[gigantes]

I browsed r/Mavericks last night, and wow... there are a lot of unhappy Mavs fans right now. Sad & angry about the loss of DFS, Dwid and that future pick, which could be super-valuable.

Usually after a big trade, no matter a player's past history, there's a certain optimism that things could work out. In this case, the 'generally positive' take is that getting Kyrie either boosts DAL to the WCF, or it hastens Luka out the door.

Not a lot of KI fans out there willing to overlook his train of nonsense, I guess.

[gigantes]

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[MrDollarBills]

Question for you guys: Does Markieff have anything left in the tank or is he a pure salary/roster slot filler at this point? Looks like he barely saw the floor for you guys and tbh I haven't watched any Brooklyn games other than the ones against the Mavs.

Markieff was great to have here as a vet, but he's pretty much cooked.

[MrDollarBills]

I browsed r/Mavericks last night, and wow... there are a lot of unhappy Mavs fans right now. Sad & angry about the loss of DFS, Dwid and that future pick, which could be super-valuable.

Usually after a big trade, no matter a player's past history, there's a certain optimism that things could work out. In this case, the 'generally positive' take is that getting Kyrie either boosts DAL to the WCF, or it hastens Luka out the door.

Not a lot of KI fans out there willing to overlook his train of nonsense, I guess.

They should be upset, i know i would be after watching Kyrie set the Nets on fire the last two years. They know what's coming

[NetsWorld]

I browsed r/Mavericks last night, and wow... there are a lot of unhappy Mavs fans right now. Sad & angry about the loss of DFS, Dwid and that future pick, which could be super-valuable.

Usually after a big trade, no matter a player's past history, there's a certain optimism that things could work out. In this case, the 'generally positive' take is that getting Kyrie either boosts DAL to the WCF, or it hastens Luka out the door.

Not a lot of KI fans out there willing to overlook his train of nonsense, I guess.

He demanded a trade mid season out of left field and pretty much derailed another winning season for us. I would be pessimistic myself. Kyrie is over and done with, he was the second Marbury; hopefully KD learned his damn lesson about this guy. KD was the same cat that said you don’t demand a trade mid season to throw the team off and his Buddy did what KD is against. Let’s see if KD folds or continues his leadership for this squad. Marks won’t stand pat between now and Thursday, I can almost guarantee that. Woj, Mark’s mouthpiece, already confirmed they are retooling so the rebuild talks can stop……For now. But if they do decide to trade KD, NOP offer the best package

[MrDollarBills]

If i were an opposing GM i wouldn't trade for Ben Simmons in his current state. The idea that Toronto should accept Simmons for Siakam is pretty out there.

As much as we know it takes guys more time to come back effectively from back surgery, Simmons is still a guy i don't trust right now.

[MrDollarBills]

Honestly its still wild to me that Kyrie was just saying that Harden was half way out of the locker room. And just last week he said we were the best team in the NBA.

Then suddenly he wants to abandon ship because we didn't give him a max contract offer that no other team in the league would give either.

Guy is bi polar on another level. I can't imagine having to deal with that for 4 years. Marks must have gone crazy.

Honestly I like everybody else am sick of the endless Kyrie drama so in a way I'm happy he's finally gone, however I blame the front office more than Ky for this. Kyrie has been reckless with how he doesn't fully consider the impact of his actions, the front office on the other hand has done everything they can to undermine and patronise Kyrie as a person during it, from suspending him voluntarily for the vaccine stance, to the 6 demands during the tweet fiasco, and to top it off you've got degrading stipulations in the new contract negotiations.

I mean Kyrie is an all-star starter, all-NBA caliber guy, if this is the sort of treatment he gets the front office I don't blame Kyrie at all for thinking it's just their way of telling him he is not wanted here. It's clear the Nets didn't want to pay Kyrie beyond this season and they got their wish.

Now let's see Marks and Tsai's grand plan eventuate. Can they keep KD happy?? If not, I got a feeling we might be saying take us back to the KD/Kyrie days in a few months time.

I disagree with some of this.

The Nets would have been absolutely foolish to give Kyrie a max contract without assurances that he will show up for work. It's not degrading at all imo, Kyrie brought that on himself.

All that other stuff, such as going AWOL and attending parties while the team was playing that same night, refusing to get vaccinated to play, and tweeting out a link to neo nazi propaganda are all situations caused by him. The Nets share blame for their role in each of these situations, but at the end of the day Kyrie is the one who created the mess.

I'm glad he's finally gone. I grew tired of worrying about when the other shoe would drop. He's nuked our season two years in a row....it's hard for me to take his side on any of this outside of understanding why he requested a trade, because that was his right when he saw that he wasn't going to get a contract that no one in the league will give him.

[Karate Diop]

Question for you guys: Does Markieff have anything left in the tank or is he a pure salary/roster slot filler at this point? Looks like he barely saw the floor for you guys and tbh I haven't watched any Brooklyn games other than the ones against the Mavs.

I don't know that he's able to give you consistent production anymore but he showed good leadership and grit when he did see the floor.

Defensively he's basically glued to the floor so you have to play him at center.

He's not as washed as Paul Millsap was last year, but not as spry as Blake Griffin was year 1 on the Nets.

Basically a third string guy.

[NetsWorld]

Honestly its still wild to me that Kyrie was just saying that Harden was half way out of the locker room. And just last week he said we were the best team in the NBA.

Then suddenly he wants to abandon ship because we didn't give him a max contract offer that no other team in the league would give either.

Guy is bi polar on another level. I can't imagine having to deal with that for 4 years. Marks must have gone crazy.

Honestly I like everybody else am sick of the endless Kyrie drama so in a way I'm happy he's finally gone, however I blame the front office more than Ky for this. Kyrie has been reckless with how he doesn't fully consider the impact of his actions, the front office on the other hand has done everything they can to undermine and patronise Kyrie as a person during it, from suspending him voluntarily for the vaccine stance, to the 6 demands during the tweet fiasco, and to top it off you've got degrading stipulations in the new contract negotiations.

I mean Kyrie is an all-star starter, all-NBA caliber guy, if this is the sort of treatment he gets the front office I don't blame Kyrie at all for thinking it's just their way of telling him he is not wanted here. It's clear the Nets didn't want to pay Kyrie beyond this season and they got their wish.

Now let's see Marks and Tsai's grand plan eventuate. Can they keep KD happy?? If not, I got a feeling we might be saying take us back to the KD/Kyrie days in a few months time.

I disagree with some of this.

The Nets would have been absolutely foolish to give Kyrie a max contract without assurances that he will show up for work. It's not degrading at all imo, Kyrie brought that on himself.

All that other stuff, such as going AWOL and attending parties while the team was playing that same night, refusing to get vaccinated to play, and tweeting out a link to neo nazi propaganda are all situations caused by him. The Nets share blame for their role in each of these situations, but at the end of the day Kyrie is the one who created the mess.

I'm glad he's finally gone. I grew tired of worrying about when the other shoe would drop. He's nuked our season two years in a row....[b]it's hard for me to take his side on any of this outside of understanding why he requested a trade, because that was his right when he saw that he wasn't going to get a contract that no one in the league will give him[/b].

His "right" has also just potentially derailed another Nets season. Every "personal" choice he makes/made has negatively impacted whatever team he was on. As far how the team handled it, the team should not have to constantly be put in situations where they need to figure out a way to handle his lunacy. The FO's job is simply to acquire players and these players need to play for contracts. Kyrie is gone and WILL NOT be missed. He accomplished nothing for us and demanded a trade when everything was still OK. Good riddance.