Trade Targets

[N Ireland Nets]

Don't no if anyone has been watching the Wizards but Nene has been balling.

I'd gladly take Nene for Hump. He'd fit in well in any new system. Offers us further depth at center where if Lopez does get injured we can move Nene to the 5 & Blatche to PF.

So yeh, a simple move & a huge upgrade.

[vincecarter4pres]

Don't no if anyone has been watching the Wizards but Nene has been balling.

I'd gladly take Nene for Hump. He'd fit in well in any new system. Offers us further depth at center where if Lopez does get injured we can move Nene to the 5 & Blatche to PF.

So yeh, a simple move & a huge upgrade.

Realism from KG and Boston's end aside, what do you think of the Garnett idea for us?

[N Ireland Nets]

I think Boston would never do it if truth be told.

I could see them mortgaging their future 2 make a run over the next couple of years then super tank mode & start again.

I can see them going for someone like Cousins with Melo, Sullinger, Bradley & 2 1sts.

I think Garnett will retire a Celtic

[Jersey Generals]

KG and Wallace would be locker room boxing before/after every practice.

I can't stand Lee... uhh. I resented the Nets when they traded Carter for this "star" (to quote Shaq) and then HE was the one who resented wearing the Nets uniform. Ugly jumper, ugly grin.... hate the guy.

Meh, I would look elsewhere.

They didn't trade for Lee. That was a masked salary dump, hence why Ryan Anderson went to the Magic. They got Lee back just to make it look like they were getting someone to build with, but the real fact of the matter is, the Nets needed to give Anderson just to get the Magic to take Carter and his salary.

[vincecarter4pres]

KG and Wallace would be locker room boxing before/after every practice.

I can't stand Lee... uhh. I resented the Nets when they traded Carter for this "star" (to quote Shaq) and then HE was the one who resented wearing the Nets uniform. Ugly jumper, ugly grin.... hate the guy.

Meh, I would look elsewhere.

They didn't trade for Lee. That was a masked salary dump, hence why Ryan Anderson went to the Magic. They got Lee back just to make it look like they were getting someone to build with, but the real fact of the matter is, the Nets needed to give Anderson just to get the Magic to take Carter and his salary.

And then the one good recent move Otis made, Hennigan comes in and botches up Gangnam style.

[deepblueday]

i wonder if hump + marshon for ak47 might entice minny. i dont know how much andrei wants to be here, but if he's telling minny he's opting out after this season and he'd like to be moved to BK, picking up a decent vet expiring next season and a good prospect at a position of need wouldn't be bad value.

[Hello Brooklyn]

All of you guys's trade ideas seem to be centered around Humphries and Brooks. I just don't see it.

Nobody wants Humphries. Hes not worth his contract and it doesn't expire till next off season. And Brooks has no value anymore, ever since Avery put him the the Doug House.

I would love to get KG or Nene, but we all know its not gonna happen. Billy King doesn't pull off miracle trades. Hes no Mitch.

Were locked into this team for the near future.

[NyCeEvO]

All of you guys's trade ideas seem to be centered around Humphries and Brooks. I just don't see it.

Nobody wants Humphries. Hes not worth his contract and it doesn't expire till next off season. And Brooks has no value anymore, ever since Avery put him the the Doug House.

I completely disagree.

Just because the Nets don't want Hump doesn't mean that no one else wants Hump.

On top of that, players aren't acquired simply for their positive contribution to team pay. Their contract status is also very important.

Hump could be traded to a team that needs a rebounder or a to team that has a bad long term contract that they'd like to get rid of like Nene.

Also, Brooks is only a 2nd year player and there are plenty of teams that view him as a low risk/medium-to-high reward player because that's what he is in reality.

He's on small rookie contract and when given the ball enough, his positive production will outweigh his bad mistakes.

Unfortunately for him, the Nets don't really have the time to hand over the offense to a rook and give him time to figure it all out.


Hump and Brooks are still very legitimate trade chips.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I completely disagree.

Just because the Nets don't want Hump doesn't mean that no one else wants Hump.

On top of that, players aren't acquired simply for their positive contribution to team pay. Their contract status is also very important.

Hump could be traded to a team that needs a rebounder or a to team that has a bad long term contract that they'd like to get rid of like Nene.

Also, Brooks is only a 2nd year player and there are plenty of teams that view him as a low risk/medium-to-high reward player because that's what he is in reality.

He's on small rookie contract and when given the ball enough, his positive production will outweigh his bad mistakes.

Unfortunately for him, the Nets don't really have the time to hand over the offense to a rook and give him time to figure it all out.


Hump and Brooks are still very legitimate trade chips.

Go to other team forums and propose these trades. They will laugh in your face.

Humphries contract is not even expiring yet. And many of these players mentioned only have 1 or 2 more years than him. You guys are wildly overestimating Humphries value based on the fact that he will be an expiring next year.

Brooks has some value but not nearly enough to pull a player like KG or Nene. Lets be realistic and take off our homer glasses for a sec.

Do you not remember that the Wizards did not give Nene that contract? They traded for him because they wanted him. If they were so scared of that contract why trade for him.
And who says they are even interested in trading for him? He is a vastly superior player to Humphries.

There is no way the Wizards ever trade away Nene for Humphries and Brooks. Don't believe me ask a Wizards fan.

[therealbig3]

There is no way the Wizards ever trade away Nene for Humphries and Brooks. Don't believe me ask a Wizards fan.

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And why trade the vastly superior player in Nene for Humphries? Maybe because a player like Nene is useless for a team like the Wizards, who are clearly in "tank and rebuild" mode right now? Maybe they traded for him in the first place because they thought him and Wall together could lead them to a playoff berth, but since Wall got injured, and Nene is always getting injured as well, and since their team is pretty much out of the playoff hunt already, they think it's better for them to get out of Nene's contract now? Trading for Hump allows them to get out of Nene's contract 2 years early. That's a pretty big deal.

[NyCeEvO]

There is no way the Wizards ever trade away Nene for Humphries and Brooks. Don't believe me ask a Wizards fan.

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And why trade the vastly superior player in Nene for Humphries? Maybe because a player like Nene is useless for a team like the Wizards, who are clearly in "tank and rebuild" mode right now? Maybe they traded for him in the first place because they thought him and Wall together could lead them to a playoff berth, but since Wall got injured, and Nene is always getting injured as well, and since their team is pretty much out of the playoff hunt already, they think it's better for them to get out of Nene's contract now? Trading for Hump allows them to get out of Nene's contract 2 years early. That's a pretty big deal.

Exactly.

Fans don't make trades; GMs and franchises do.

Fans don't care about salaries and saving money. They just want to see their team win at any cost.

Assets are way more complicated than just how good a player is.

A team going from $5mil under the cap to the $17mil under for free agent spending is HUGE difference.

You go from being able to spend the money ona role player on the bench to just having a shade under a max salary contract in 2014 offseason. That's huge!

[N Ireland Nets]

There is no way the Wizards ever trade away Nene for Humphries and Brooks. Don't believe me ask a Wizards fan.

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And why trade the vastly superior player in Nene for Humphries? Maybe because a player like Nene is useless for a team like the Wizards, who are clearly in "tank and rebuild" mode right now? Maybe they traded for him in the first place because they thought him and Wall together could lead them to a playoff berth, but since Wall got injured, and Nene is always getting injured as well, and since their team is pretty much out of the playoff hunt already, they think it's better for them to get out of Nene's contract now? Trading for Hump allows them to get out of Nene's contract 2 years early. That's a pretty big deal.

Exactly.

Fans don't make trades; GMs and franchises do.

Fans don't care about salaries and saving money. They just want to see their team win at any cost.

Assets are way more complicated than just how good a player is.

A team going from $5mil under the cap to the $17mil under for free agent spending is HUGE difference.

You go from being able to spend the money ona role player on the bench to just having a shade under a max salary contract in 2014 offseason. That's huge!

Agree.

The cap space could be very useful for the Wizards to go after someone like Cousins by taking a few of the Kings bad deals.

Wall, Beal, Cousins & another high pick this year is a solid young core going forward.

The Wizards could probably give their high lotto pick this year for Cousins & small pieces.

Nene is worthless on the Wizards right now. He has a large contract and actually helps their record and therefore improves their draft position which is exactly what the Wizards don't want right now.

A hump for Nene deals saves the Wizards a fortune while adding a good solid pro to maintain the tank pace.

Nene has the 2nd highest PER at the center position in the NBA currently. I'd absolutely love to see a Wallace, Nene & Lopez front court.

Nene with D Will pick and roll would be so hard to defend. Plus Nene is a great pick and roll defender and top all round defender.

To top it all off his deal ends in 2016 which is exactly the same as all our big deals. So in 4 years we'll just add KD &Irving to play with the best center in the league in 4 years time, Brook Lopez

[Hello Brooklyn]

You guys keep assuming that the Wizards want cap space and hate Nene even though they traded for his contract themselves!

It just doesn't make sense to me that the Wizards gave up a good young player in McGee to get Nene only to trade him for crap the next year. I just don't see it.

At least Nene is a productive player.

And if the Wizards want cap space so bad you think there aren't other teams that could give them expiring contracts. Coupled with assets that could be better than ours?

I would love to get a player like Nene on this team. I just don't think it will happen. We have to be realistic.

[deepblueday]

hello brooklyn is absolutely right. there is no reason for the wizards to move nene for a package of hump and brooks. no evidence whatsover that theyre looking to dump a performing player they made a move to acquire less than a year ago, plenty of evidence that they don't want to do that. this is fan strategy, wishful thinking nonsense... drop every good player on the team for nothing lose every game and get teh number 1 pick!1 100% **** guaranteed this is not the philosophy governing the wizards decisions right now

they acquired nene and defensive roleplayers because they want to be good. are they good this year? no, but their best player hasn't played a game. if wall comes back and things look promising, that's a GOOD thing for them. they're going to throw away a borderline allstar big on a reasonable deal for nothing, for just a few more lottery balls in a draft with nothing even approaching a blue chip prospect? so they can sign some mediocre FA AFTER NEXT SEASON that will be nowhere near as good nene? seriously, post this **** on the trade board and see what kind of reaction you get.

[Keith Van Horn]

All of you guys's trade ideas seem to be centered around Humphries and Brooks. I just don't see it.

Nobody wants Humphries. Hes not worth his contract and it doesn't expire till next off season. And Brooks has no value anymore, ever since Avery put him the the Doug House.

Not really, I was poking around the Raptors board recently and asked about "Hump for Bargs" and they all said in a heartbeat and in fact they thought they wouldn't be able to pull it off anyway.

[PetroNet]

Exactly.

Fans don't make trades; GMs and franchises do.

Fans don't care about salaries and saving money. They just want to see their team win at any cost.

Assets are way more complicated than just how good a player is.

A team going from $5mil under the cap to the $17mil under for free agent spending is HUGE difference.

You go from being able to spend the money ona role player on the bench to just having a shade under a max salary contract in 2014 offseason. That's huge!

having 17 million in cap room for the wizards is pretty useless, since no one is going to want to come play there. whats the best case? that they slightly overpay a solid front court players? isnt that just the exact same thing they have now with Nene?

there is 0 chance they deal nene for cap room.

[Jersey Generals]

Actually, it wouldn't be cap room, it would be the ability to give Wall the max, re-sign Trevor Booker and Kevin Serphin, and field a competent team around Wall, while staying under the tax line, all of which happen int he 2014 off-season.

[PetroNet]

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[vincecarter4pres]

Why do people get so worked up over realistic trade scenarios?

"Hey **** you mother **** Wizards never trade beast Nene **** **** **** whore bitch!!!1!!!!!!1!"

Jesus, relax, he's a very underrated player but he's on a big bloated deal and things have gone south for the Wiz. If Nene was so valuable in trade someone would have given up a much better piece then McGee for him last year when he was dealt.

[AntwanBoldin]

Deron Williams is simply no good