Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[MrDollarBills]

There's nothing to ponder. Make both deals asap

It amazes me that King did not think twice about giving away the 6th pick for Gerald Wallace, or recklessly offering pick swaps for Joe Johnson, but now all of a sudden with the team literally imploding he wants to take his time.

Both deals as alleged are excellent value in return. The sooner you get this done the sooner Hollins has time to figure out a plan on how to get the most out of these guys and possibly salvage the season.

[Paradise]

That other place is reporting the Lopez/Denver deal would most likely be McGee + young player and 1st round pick via CLE or OKC.

when is that OKC pick?

OKC's pick via CLE is 2015 and Top 18 Protected. The Grizzlies 2015 pick via CLE is Top 5 protected; Top 15-30 Protected in 2016.

So, 5% chance we get anything special from those draft picks. Which should mean Denver would have to throw in Gary Harris into the deal.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd want Wilson Chandler in the deal as well.

[Keith Van Horn]

I don't care if those picks are protected the way they're reported, at least we'll have another pick to work with. Gold is found at the end of the first round frequently, look at plumlee.

Both deals need to get done... I like Lopez to Denver for McGee + Chandler + 1st rounder.

If Deron can resume being the player he was at the start of the season, these 2 trades could change a LOT for the rest of the season.

[CalamityX12]

That other place is reporting the Lopez/Denver deal would most likely be McGee + young player and 1st round pick via CLE or OKC.

when is that OKC pick?

OKC's pick via CLE is 2015 and Top 18 Protected. The Grizzlies 2015 pick via CLE is Top 5 protected; Top 15-30 Protected in 2016.

So, 5% chance we get anything special from those draft picks. Which should mean Denver would have to throw in Gary Harris into the deal.

If I read this right, sounds like the okc pick is better unless okc goes on a tear

[Zachbretton]

I'm a bit worried about the Denver deal, because if we don't get Chandler than I worry it's actually worse for us. Those first round picks are both rare to happen this year, so we don't get much on that front. I'm VERY much not a fan of McGee, so if its a fake first, McGee and Harris... I just think we honestly end up becoming the loser because thats a long term move which is not what we need to be thinking if we're doing to Joe trade.

If Chandler is involved, than we're putting together a team that can make a run for the playoffs and snag that 7th seed or so. If it's just McGee and Harris we're saying **** it to the season and just going long term and I don't see that paying off much

[CalamityX12]

I don't care if those picks are protected the way they're reported, at least we'll have another pick to work with. Gold is found at the end of the first round frequently, look at plumlee.

Both deals need to get done... I like Lopez to Denver for McGee + Chandler + 1st rounder.

If Deron can resume being the player he was at the start of the season, these 2 trades could change a LOT for the rest of the season.

But plums was early 20s...

[Paradise]

Tonight's game will be Postponed

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[F3LON]

I'm pretty against trading Joe Johnson as it makes more sense to wait until next year when he is expiring and holds value.... that said, Lance/Hendo/Williams is great value and I make that deal in a split second.

Do that then send out Lopez and this teams is in great shape moving forward. we'd rid oursevles of 2/3 of the bad contracts, have KG/Mirza come off the books next year, and maybe salvage a playoff spot.

gott make the move now though

Expiring contracts dont hold as much value as they use to. If so the Knicks would have moved Bargnani and Stat already. If we can make this trade with the Hornets then we have moved the worst trade piece of the big 3. Joe is the best player of the three but also the oldest. He will be 34 when next season starts and the Nets are running him into the ground.

Unlike most 24 year olds, Lance is ready to play now. He doesnt need to gain any weight/strength and he already understands defense. We just need him to buy in to Hollins.

[MrDollarBills]

Tonight's game will be Postponed

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They should just count the game as a forfeit since we were gonna lose anyway.

[Paradise]

when is that OKC pick?

OKC's pick via CLE is 2015 and Top 18 Protected. The Grizzlies 2015 pick via CLE is Top 5 protected; Top 15-30 Protected in 2016.

So, 5% chance we get anything special from those draft picks. Which should mean Denver would have to throw in Gary Harris into the deal.

If I read this right, sounds like the okc pick is better unless okc goes on a tear

OKC right now would be selecting 13th in the draft and they keep the pick if it's under 18.

[Keith Van Horn]

so maybe king is trying to get Harris instead of a first rounder? could he also get chandler?

[CalamityX12]

OKC's pick via CLE is 2015 and Top 18 Protected. The Grizzlies 2015 pick via CLE is Top 5 protected; Top 15-30 Protected in 2016.

So, 5% chance we get anything special from those draft picks. Which should mean Denver would have to throw in Gary Harris into the deal.

If I read this right, sounds like the okc pick is better unless okc goes on a tear

OKC right now would be selecting 13th in the draft and they keep the pick if it's under 18.

I'm praying they make playoffs n get a lot more Ws....

[dunkonu21]

I think this should include New Orleans in the deal:

Flip Marvin and Henderson to NOP and get Tyreke Evans to Bklyn.

Stephenson and Evans would compliment each other well imo and between the two of them, you have a PG. Works in the trade checker.

Then have Bklyn trade Deron for a knock down shooter.

Evans/3pt shooter
Stephenson/3pt shooter
Bogd/Karasev
KG/Plum
Lopez/Plum

[F3LON]

If we trade with Denver then I want McGee, Harris, J Nelson and the OKC pick

I think the OKC pick pans out this year. They are tied with the Bucks for 15/16. All we need is for them to climb 2 spots which I think is likely. That would give us 2 picks in the 1st round this year, OKC and Atl. We can probably package those together and get into the back of the lottery.

Garry Harris seems like a Hollins type of player. He is still very young but I like his skill set. He is a 3 and D wing who played for Izzo at MSU. Izzo guards are always good defensively.

Nelson would give us an upgrade over Jack at PG. He knows how to run an offense in case of another DWIll injury. Jack is better suited as a 6th man off the bench.

McGee has always been a favorite of mine. I think he is unfairly portrayed in the media. I think he can still have a Marcus Camby type of career. If you pair McGee with Plumlee, we will have an extremely athletic front court.

The biggest issue is going to be scoring. Losing Lopez AND Johnson is going to lead to some ugly offense. Im not expecting Lance to come in and fill that void. He is a complimentary offensive player so dont expect James Harden people. He is going to be our defensive anchor who can also handle the ball a lot so DWIll can play off the ball like he did with Livingston. This will only help raise DWill's value IMO. DWill's market is going to be a veteran team who is looking for someone to come in and serve as the 3rd option. IF he can show he is capable of playing off the ball I can see a team that has a high usage superstar being interested in him. He would fit great next to someone like Lebron for example.

The last thing I want to mention is that we still have Blatche's bird rights. This should give us the advantage in signing him when he gets back from China. If we can somehow get low enough salary wise to facilitate a sign and trade this offseason we can turn Blatche into future assets.

[F3LON]

I think this should include New Orleans in the deal:

Flip Marvin and Henderson to NOP and get Tyreke Evans to Bklyn.

Stephenson and Evans would compliment each other well imo and between the two of them, you have a PG. Works in the trade checker.

Then have Bklyn trade Deron for a knock down shooter.

Evans/3pt shooter
Stephenson/3pt shooter
Bogd/Karasev
KG/Plum
Lopez/Plum

No they wouldnt. Neither is a great shooter and they are kind of redundant skill wise.

DWill is actually a knock down shooter. Getting Lance is going to benefit him the most. Lance is the rich mans Livingston.

[Zachbretton]

As I said before, If we're trading away Lopez and Joe we need to get a good amount of shooters back. Obviously DWill will pair nicely next to Lance and get some wonderful shots, but that's why I want Chandler from Denver, because obviously Bogs in time (I still believe) will be a great player, but we need someone on the court to take the shots he should be taking.

I think that at least the Joe trade sets us up for a much better season, even if we don't trade Lopez I think it maybe enough to push the needle. We have been in free fall and we're only .5 out, we need the kick in the ass that this trade will create


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[F3LON]

Pl

As I said before, If we're trading away Lopez and Joe we need to get a good amount of shooters back. Obviously DWill will pair nicely next to Lance and get some wonderful shots, but that's why I want Chandler from Denver, because obviously Bogs in time (I still believe) will be a great player, but we need someone on the court to take the shots he should be taking.

I think that at least the Joe trade sets us up for a much better season, even if we don't trade Lopez I think it maybe enough to push the needle. We have been in free fall and we're only .5 out, we need the kick in the ass that this trade will create


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Bogs isnt even a good role player and he will be 26 in April. I would love to dump him ASAP.

Im looking forward to this lineup.

McGee
Plumlee
Lance
M Brown
D Will

One of the biggest adds we are getting is Lance's ability to rebound. Once he secures the rebound this lineup will be extremely fun to watch in transition.

I think Brown is our best SG option. His biggest weakness is his ball handling but that's not an issue with a pass first PG like DWill and a Point Forward like Lance. Brown has shown very good balance on his jumper. Even when coming off screens, he elevates without leaning. Having a strong base is key to being a good 3 point shooter.

[MrDollarBills]

The biggest issue is going to be scoring. Losing Lopez AND Johnson is going to lead to some ugly offense.

the offense was horrible with them in it, it can't get much worse.

I also want to see Brown become a starter.

[Paradise]

D-Will/Jack
Lance/Harris/Brown/Sergey
Henderson/Anderson/Bogs
KG/M. Williams
Plums/McGee/Jordan

Or

D-Will/Jack/Harris
Lance/Henderson/Brown
Chandler/Anderson/Sergey
KG/M.Williams
Plums/McGee

We automatically become much quicker and more athletic on perimeter defense which should help compensate the loss of Lopez and Joe.