This offseason

[Papi_swav]

LMFAO ^^ Lin over CP3, Conley, IT, Irving and Lowry ???

[Curns13]

Don't insult Lin or Lopez like that... Hill is a middle-of the pack PG

So is Lin. and lopez is a one way player who prevents you from playing team defense. we have 0 allstars on this team. saying hill is an upgrade is no insult

Lin is a top5 PG, Lopez is a top 5 center. Hills probably in like the ~15 range for PG's.

For reference PG list IMO (hopefully I don't forget any notables)

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Lin
6. Conley
7. Paul
8. IT
9. Irving
10. Dragic
11. Schroder
12. Lowry
13. Rubio
14. Hill
15. Holiday
16. Walker

WTF? Seriously? Just wow! Lopez is closer to a top 5 centre (but he isnt) than Lin is a top 5 pg. I really like Lin. I'm really happy he is here. But he is no where near a top 5 point guard.

[playteamball]

Don't insult Lin or Lopez like that... Hill is a middle-of the pack PG

So is Lin. and lopez is a one way player who prevents you from playing team defense. we have 0 allstars on this team. saying hill is an upgrade is no insult

Lin is a top5 PG, Lopez is a top 5 center. Hills probably in like the ~15 range for PG's.

For reference PG list IMO (hopefully I don't forget any notables)

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Lin
6. Conley
7. Paul
8. IT
9. Irving
10. Dragic
11. Schroder
12. Lowry
13. Rubio
14. Hill
15. Holiday
16. Walker

My list differs, but credit to you for actually ranking your PGs and being willing to take the heat from everyone.

[NyCeEvO]

Don't insult Lin or Lopez like that... Hill is a middle-of the pack PG

So is Lin. and lopez is a one way player who prevents you from playing team defense. we have 0 allstars on this team. saying hill is an upgrade is no insult

Lin is a top5 PG, Lopez is a top 5 center. Hills probably in like the ~15 range for PG's.

For reference PG list IMO (hopefully I don't forget any notables)

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Lin
6. Conley
7. Paul
8. IT
9. Irving
10. Dragic
11. Schroder
12. Lowry
13. Rubio
14. Hill
15. Holiday
16. Walker

This thread is about what we're going to do this offseason, not personal player rankings.

Do not derail this thread into something it's not.

[bws94]

I don't know, two different opinions on Hill are expressed. I don't rate Hill as high as Prok or Lin as high as Kswiss. Hill to Nets has been brought up and Prok has stressed how much he likes Hill. Others have their own opinions on Hill.

I don't think Lopez should be moved unless there is something that will replace his offense to a large degree, and bring in the much-needed PnR defense, and for the right price. Lin is a PG in his prime, we can argue what he brings, but to me his position is one of the more solid on the team. But another ball handler and facilitator, and one with skill and maybe a 3 and D ability, would benefit the team as the starting 2 spot needs to be filled or the 3 if LeVert is moved to the 2.

[MrDollarBills]

Don't insult Lin or Lopez like that... Hill is a middle-of the pack PG

So is Lin. and lopez is a one way player who prevents you from playing team defense. we have 0 allstars on this team. saying hill is an upgrade is no insult

Lin is a top5 PG, Lopez is a top 5 center. Hills probably in like the ~15 range for PG's.

For reference PG list IMO (hopefully I don't forget any notables)

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Lin
6. Conley
7. Paul
8. IT
9. Irving
10. Dragic
11. Schroder
12. Lowry
13. Rubio
14. Hill
15. Holiday
16. Walker

[MrDollarBills]

I don't know, two different opinions on Hill are expressed. I don't rate Hill as high as Prok or Lin as high as Kswiss. Hill to Nets has been brought up and Prok has stressed how much he likes Hill. Others have their own opinions on Hill.

I don't think Lopez should be moved unless there is something that will replace his offense to a large degree, and bring in the much-needed PnR defense, and for the right price. Lin is a PG in his prime, we can argue what he brings, but to me his position is one of the more solid on the team. But another ball handler and facilitator, and one with skill and maybe a 3 and D ability, would benefit the team as the starting 2 spot needs to be filled or the 3 if LeVert is moved to the 2.

I think Hill would be a great fit. I just am scared of his price tag and that age.

i think if we can get PJ Tucker that would be a good haul honestly.

[treiz]

I like how we have a top 5 PG and a top 5 C, but still only managed 20 wins this season....

Anywho, just wanted to add that PJ Tucker would be a great addition to this team. Think he could really bring out a bit of a mean streak to the youngsters and have them play more aggressively. Think him and the draft picks would be a solid offseason for me, it would be ideal to trade Lopez for another 1st (either to move up this year or a 2018 pick) but if it doesn't happen I wouldn't be too upset.

[spaceballer]

Nets are holding free agent mini-camps again this summer for fringe NBA vets and D-leaguers. Last season, out of the two mini-camps, Bennett was the only one who made the team. Hopefully they have better luck this time. But even if they don't, I like that they are exploring all avenues and turning over every rock.

[Papi_swav]

Nets are holding free agent mini-camps again this summer for fringe NBA vets and D-leaguers. Last season, out of the two mini-camps, Bennett was the only one who made the team. Hopefully they have better luck this time. But even if they don't, I like that they are exploring all avenues and turning over every rock.

We might not even have enough roster space, hopefully we can do a 3 for 1 player trade. Does anybody know if/when Adam Silver is going to expand the rosters to 16-17 players?

[MrDollarBills]

meh, I think we have enough fringe guys. we're about to add two more rookies as is.

[NyCeEvO]

Nets are holding free agent mini-camps again this summer for fringe NBA vets and D-leaguers. Last season, out of the two mini-camps, Bennett was the only one who made the team. Hopefully they have better luck this time. But even if they don't, I like that they are exploring all avenues and turning over every rock.

We might not even have enough roster space, hopefully we can do a 3 for 1 player trade. Does anybody know if/when Adam Silver is going to expand the rosters to 16-17 players?

The roster expands to 17 players (15 active NBA players and 2 two-way players) once this season is finished.

Also, like Spaceballer intimated, I think they're just doing their due diligence in looking for talent everywhere. There's no harm in that even if they end up selecting no one.

[Papi_swav]

Nets are holding free agent mini-camps again this summer for fringe NBA vets and D-leaguers. Last season, out of the two mini-camps, Bennett was the only one who made the team. Hopefully they have better luck this time. But even if they don't, I like that they are exploring all avenues and turning over every rock.

We might not even have enough roster space, hopefully we can do a 3 for 1 player trade. Does anybody know if/when Adam Silver is going to expand the rosters to 16-17 players?

The roster expands to 17 players (15 active NBA players and 2 two-way players) once this season is finished.

Also, like Spaceballer intimated, I think they're just doing their due diligence in looking for talent everywhere. There's no harm in that even if they end up selecting no one.

2 two way players??

[NyCeEvO]

We might not even have enough roster space, hopefully we can do a 3 for 1 player trade. Does anybody know if/when Adam Silver is going to expand the rosters to 16-17 players?

The roster expands to 17 players (15 active NBA players and 2 two-way players) once this season is finished.

Also, like Spaceballer intimated, I think they're just doing their due diligence in looking for talent everywhere. There's no harm in that even if they end up selecting no one.

2 two way players??

Starting next season, teams can have up to 2 two players (i.e. players who have a contract with an NBA team but primarily play in the D-League. These players cannot be poached by other teams while in the D-League (like what happened with Yogi) and can be with the parent team for up to 45 days until the team is forced to give them an NBA contract or let them out of the two-way contract.

[Papi_swav]

The roster expands to 17 players (15 active NBA players and 2 two-way players) once this season is finished.

Also, like Spaceballer intimated, I think they're just doing their due diligence in looking for talent everywhere. There's no harm in that even if they end up selecting no one.

2 two way players??

Starting next season, teams can have up to 2 two players (i.e. players who have a contract with an NBA team but primarily play in the D-League. These players cannot be poached by other teams while in the D-League (like what happened with Yogi) and can be with the parent team for up to 45 days until the team is forced to give them an NBA contract or let them out of the two-way contract.

Interesting, I like it. It gives us a look at players to see if they're worth keeping or not without losing a roster spot or cap for the year.

[jbeachboy]

So is Lin. and lopez is a one way player who prevents you from playing team defense. we have 0 allstars on this team. saying hill is an upgrade is no insult

Lin is a top5 PG, Lopez is a top 5 center. Hills probably in like the ~15 range for PG's.

For reference PG list IMO (hopefully I don't forget any notables)

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Lin
6. Conley
7. Paul
8. IT
9. Irving
10. Dragic
11. Schroder
12. Lowry
13. Rubio
14. Hill
15. Holiday
16. Walker

i would put lin as 17th on this list, i would probably take all these guys over lin



what a joke lin over chris paul, kyrie,etc . this is just being a nets homer

[MrDollarBills]

I would take Lin over Dennis Schroder, and I think Lin and Jrue Holiday aren't that far apart as players. I'm not a fan of the way Schroder approaches the game or his defense. Very inefficient player imo.

Everyone else, I take over Lin.

I'm not sure if Kswiss was literally trolling or he's dead serious.

[Prokorov]

Kenny must be the worst coach in the NBA. how do you have a top 5 PG and top 5 C and not make the playoffs?

i mean the clippers won 51 games without a top 5 PG or top 5 center!!!

[qiantom]

I would take Lin over Dennis Schroder, and I think Lin and Jrue Holiday aren't that far apart as players. I'm not a fan of the way Schroder approaches the game or his defense. Very inefficient player imo.

Everyone else, I take over Lin.

I'm not sure if Kswiss was literally trolling or he's dead serious.

I would take Lin over Jrue Holiday. Don't think Holiday has any major advantages over Lin. And Rubio is interesting since his game is so bipolar. He is close to top 5 by some metrics and he is still one of worst PGs in terms of shooting although he has improved recently I think. So I don't know where to rank him. Schroder is still so young so I wouldn't rank him with the veterans. I agree with your assessment but he still has a lot of room for growth.

I think the other guys are better than Lin right now. He missed Lillard, Bledsoe and Teague in the list as well. It is just very difficult to crack the top 15 as a PG in today's NBA.

[bws94]

Kenny must be the worst coach in the NBA. how do you have a top 5 PG and top 5 C and not make the playoffs?

i mean the clippers won 51 games without a top 5 PG or top 5 center!!!

We don't. Even if we did, Lin missed 46 games. So the poster above you can't go on our record.

Anyway, I wish we wouldn't do these Lin ranks with so and so stuff anymore as it goes down a bad road. PG is the strongest position of any in the current NBA.

I personally wouldn't pick IT or Walker over Lin because Lin is a 2-way player, and IT is too small to play effective defense as is Walker to some extent. And Walker needs Batum to help him facilitate (though I love Walker's ball handling and scoring capabilities). Conley may be the best 2-way player of the bunch, may be my choice for best in the league. Not best scorer, not most athletic, but in a combination of useful skills and surrounded by skilled players, one of the best in a team sense. And I like that about Lin, put some good players around him he proves to be a key part of winning, and that's the bottom line and not triple doubles (an overrated stat), high scoring games, or some of the others judged to determine "star" players. Just help win, and come up big when it matters (is what Conley does.) Steph is still great, but not the defender Conley is. And Rondo is a great facilitator. Each PG really has qualities that help his own team, so it isn't just so and so over some one else. You have to consider the team. Rondo stunk on some of the teams he was on but does well on Chicago when he feels like it.