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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#581 » by Jta444 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:45 am

What did I tell ya’ll last March? Sign PJ Tucker. He’s the guy we need to make winning plays. And that’s what he did tonight with his hustle and rebounding. Who knew he would be the difference tonight.

What did I tell you about your boy Joe Harris, who everybody here had a hard-on on? Telling about how he’s the 4th best player lol. I told everybody here even before the playoffs Jeff Green was better than Joe, even as a shooter, but everybody here blasted that. Using words like asinine, dumb, absurd.

Just because you’re a vet poster here doesn’t mean you have any bball knowledge apparently. Prolly like our coach Nash lol, who sucked too. Playing Joe over Claxton and Shamet. Now sulk, fellas. Only brightside is next year everybody on the team would be hungrier. Trading Joe should be the first step though.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#582 » by Jay555 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:52 am

CalamityX12 wrote:1 bucket in 5 mins of OT... Bucks missed first 4-5 looks, but we did nothing with it.


We were gassed. If only Joe made his wide open 3.. Oh well..onto the next season.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#583 » by Coach Carter » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:00 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Giannis, Middleton and Lopez never quit n beat us.

Wish them the best of luck.


Thanks

KD is relentless, with kyrie bk, you'll get your chip soon enough.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#584 » by Jta444 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:02 am

But yeah the media shouldn’t blast the Nets by any means. 1 leg Harden, no Kyrie, and still challenging one of the best teams in the Bucks? That shows how good this team is. Just very unlucky. Although i really think that undercut by Giannis was dirty. He prolly thought it was the way he can finally get a championship. Raging deer was sick of losing every year in the playoffs lol.

Really, the only ones to blame are Joe Harris and Nash. Joe as everybody knows is just soft and cant play a lick of D. Nash for his awful rotations. Claxton should’ve been in there instead of Joe. But everybody played great except for Joe really. He costed us the season. 3 straight garbage games. Bruce Brown, Blake Griffin, Jeff Green - they all did their part.

If Claxton was in there instead of Joe, he couldve provided the stops we needed on Middleton and Holiday. This is all Nash’s fault.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#585 » by BigO » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:06 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Giannis figured it out. He became who we thought he could be this series.

They will kill the Sixers.

Giannis has the ugliest game of any star I have seen. The refs/league let him get away with so much. He initiates all contact. Should be called for many more offensive fouls. He'll his last bucket was a clear hook.


Giannis was awful this series. terrible defense, was scared to defend durant, airballed free throws, bricks jumpers, awful charges, 100 uncalled travels and the bucks offense was terrible this series


Prokorov-you had many great posts on the bucks board and even told us the key stat to look for to determine whether the Nets would win (turnovers). But you lose any credibility claiming Giannis is a dirty player (everyone in the league knows he isn't and never has been) and then stating Giannis was horrible in the series (his offensive efficiency was extraordinary, even with his ill advised threes).

Giannis has a lot of flaws and his coach has done nothing to help him improve on those flaws. But he had a great series, although not at the Durant level. Give yourself a few days to cool off. I like the more modest and objective Prokorov.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#586 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:14 am

This was as invested in a season as I’ve been in A LONG time. Really thought this was our year, but unfortunately we got smacked down by injuries at the worst times.

While I think people go overboard with narratives, Kyrie’s injury prone-ness is a real issue. Yeah, this might have been a freak play that could have happened to anyone, but he’s one of those players where there’s always something that comes up. Next playoffs it might be something else, and he’s out again. Hard to really have any confidence in our title chances with this group, when it can blow up in our face at any moment because one or more of our big 3 can get injured at any time.

Anyway, hard to see me tuning in as much as I did this year until the playoffs next year, just because of how meaningless the RS ultimately is. We had a great RS all things considered, but then we got hurt and lost to a team that we should have beaten. Feels like such a kick to the dick, and basically just makes the rest of our season feel so pointless.
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Post#587 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:28 am

I do think Nash went overboard in terms of his rotation tonight too. Shamet only playing 7 minutes while Joe played 47 minutes was mind boggling. I get that you want to ride with the guys that brought you here, and Harris may have had his epiphany moment and could have been big for us tonight, but he never came through. But I mean, a blocked shot and a WIDE open look from 3 from Harris late, there’s really not many higher percentage plays throughout this season. He just choked, like he did all series. It wasn’t just that shot either, he had plenty of good looks all game, and was only 3-9 from 3. Missed a couple layups too. Shamet has actually made big plays for us this series, he should have had way more of Joe’s minutes. TJ is a good player that got relegated to the bench for no real reason. I’m ok with not playing Claxton. He’s a rookie who wasn’t playing that good when he was out there, but instead of riding an ineffective Harden and Harris so much, playing more Shamet and Johnson likely makes a positive impact.

I’d try to keep Brown and Griffin and Dinwiddie, and then look to trade Harris in the off-season. Just can’t rely on the guy, RS production honestly doesn’t mean much, it really only matters what you give us in the playoffs.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#588 » by Jay555 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:40 am

therealbig3 wrote:This was as invested in a season as I’ve been in A LONG time. Really thought this was our year, but unfortunately we got smacked down by injuries at the worst times.

While I think people go overboard with narratives, Kyrie’s injury prone-ness is a real issue. Yeah, this might have been a freak play that could have happened to anyone, but he’s one of those players where there’s always something that comes up. Next playoffs it might be something else, and he’s out again. Hard to really have any confidence in our title chances with this group, when it can blow up in our face at any moment because one or more of our big 3 can get injured at any time.

Anyway, hard to see me tuning in as much as I did this year until the playoffs next year, just because of how meaningless the RS ultimately is. We had a great RS all things considered, but then we got hurt and lost to a team that we should have beaten. Feels like such a kick to the dick, and basically just makes the rest of our season feel so pointless.



True. But this might be Kyrie's most healhty year so far, he played way more games than KD and Harden. Without Giannis' recklessness, I truly believe he can stay healthy the entire playoffs. Anyhow, It's weird that Harden being the most healthy player out of the three missed the most games this year. I think he will shed some weight in the off season and come back as a different player next season.
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Post#589 » by bubonicphoniks » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:43 am

therealbig3 wrote:This was as invested in a season as I’ve been in A LONG time. Really thought this was our year, but unfortunately we got smacked down by injuries at the worst times.

While I think people go overboard with narratives, Kyrie’s injury prone-ness is a real issue. Yeah, this might have been a freak play that could have happened to anyone, but he’s one of those players where there’s always something that comes up. Next playoffs it might be something else, and he’s out again. Hard to really have any confidence in our title chances with this group, when it can blow up in our face at any moment because one or more of our big 3 can get injured at any time.

Anyway, hard to see me tuning in as much as I did this year until the playoffs next year, just because of how meaningless the RS ultimately is. We had a great RS all things considered, but then we got hurt and lost to a team that we should have beaten. Feels like such a kick to the dick, and basically just makes the rest of our season feel so pointless.
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Post#590 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:49 am

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RussellandFlow wrote:Unless KD goes to ownership saying he wants Marks and Nash gone then I cannot see them going anywhere (especially Marks). I think there will be some changes with assistant coaches(most likely Udoka and D'Antoni) and a few changes with the bench. There should be some vets looking for a ring that will interested in signing for cheap.


Tsai wants a winner. he know nash cant do that and marks used any leash he had on that moved. i expect both fired, not matter what KD says


What exactly is your beef with Marks?
What moves or lack there of do you take issue with?
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Post#591 » by BladeDaywalker » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:01 am

I said this in the general board but the pivotal moment of the game was Lopez blocking Durant and Harris missing a wide open 3.

If Harris hit this three, then I doubt people would care about Nash's coaching decisions, Sean Marks' acquisitions, the lack of bench play in game 7, or even Harris' struggles.

Harris had the game in his hand with under a minute left and missed.

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Post#592 » by BladeDaywalker » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 am

720 wrote:Was rooting for you guys. Joe Harris is an unclutch bum. Jeff Green should have played instead of him.


Hey, I know that this is off topic from what is being discussed, but who is that in your avatar?

I believe I have seen that image before but I can't remember where.
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Post#593 » by therealbig3 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:04 am

I pretty much collapsed to the ground and accepted defeat once Harris missed that 3. I knew the Bucks were gonna take the lead at that point and it was likely that our season was over.

Harris is just unreliable in the playoffs, and that makes him a useless player. Everything he does in the RS is worthless if he can’t come through in the PS.
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Post#594 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:19 am

LiquidSnakeOmen wrote:I said this in the general board but the pivotal moment of the game was Lopez blocking Durant and Harris missing a wide open 3.

If Harris hit this three, then I doubt people would care about Nash's coaching decisions, Sean Marks' acquisitions, the lack of bench play in game 7, or even Harris' struggles.

Harris had the game in his hand with under a minute left and missed.

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I don't really think you can blame Marks for the lack of bench. Its not like the Bucks had a better bench anyway.

Brown, Griffin, Claxton, Green were all excellent finds by Marks.

But they're not good enough to be second or even third options of a title team.

What can you do when two of your three best players in the league get hurt?

Nobody in the history of the NBA can overcome that. We almost did.
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Post#595 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:23 am

I think Nash made some critical mistakes. But I don't think its his fault we lost the series at all.

Once we lost Kyrie, the talent gap was massive. We frankly had no business winning Game 5 either.

Our 2nd best player after KD was Joe Harris who choked every game. Our third best player was a washed Blake Griffin.

The Bucks have three All Star level players. One of them being a top 5 player.

Do I think he made some mistakes, yes?

Harden should not have played. But I'm not sure how much he can do about that. Hes the superstar and he wanted to go.

I think Nash trusting Harris to the bitter end may have cost us. It was obvious by Game 6 that this guy was cooked.

You HAVE to try something else. You have to try Tyler Johnson, or TLC or anything. He was killing us all series.

Still, you can't be mad at being that close to advancing in a series we had no business in after Kyrie's injury.

I'm almost series if the Big 3 were healthy we waltz to a title.
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Post#596 » by Gooner » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:19 am

It just wasn't meant to be, but this is the first year, usually things never go this easy in life. Next year Nets should be better, but they need the new coach. Nash is just not good enough, but I'm afraird that these injury excuses will keep him in the job.
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Post#597 » by Gooner » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:27 am

Prokorov wrote:
RussellandFlow wrote:Unless KD goes to ownership saying he wants Marks and Nash gone then I cannot see them going anywhere (especially Marks). I think there will be some changes with assistant coaches(most likely Udoka and D'Antoni) and a few changes with the bench. There should be some vets looking for a ring that will interested in signing for cheap.


Tsai wants a winner. he know nash cant do that and marks used any leash he had on that moved. i expect both fired, not matter what KD says


That's wishful thinking I'm afraid. Nash's fate lies on KD, it's simple. He should have never been in this position in the first place, but he is because of KD, and he might stay because of KD. He wanted a yes-man from the start.
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Post#598 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:59 am

therealbig3 wrote:This was as invested in a season as I’ve been in A LONG time. Really thought this was our year, but unfortunately we got smacked down by injuries at the worst times.

While I think people go overboard with narratives, Kyrie’s injury prone-ness is a real issue. Yeah, this might have been a freak play that could have happened to anyone, but he’s one of those players where there’s always something that comes up. Next playoffs it might be something else, and he’s out again. Hard to really have any confidence in our title chances with this group, when it can blow up in our face at any moment because one or more of our big 3 can get injured at any time.

Anyway, hard to see me tuning in as much as I did this year until the playoffs next year, just because of how meaningless the RS ultimately is. We had a great RS all things considered, but then we got hurt and lost to a team that we should have beaten. Feels like such a kick to the dick, and basically just makes the rest of our season feel so pointless.


Kyrie was healthy for pretty much most of the season until that dirty play took him out.
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#599 » by sashaturiaf » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:03 am

It's been awesome talking hoops this season with you guys. That had to be the wildest season in terms of ups and downs I've ever experienced in all my years as a basketball fan. KD gave us one the great playoff series of all time and it was a pleasure to have watched that.

Unfortunately it won't end with a title, I think we all had our doubts about Nash during the season but I really didn't see that complete collapse from Joe coming. Don't think I can ever trust him again, he absolutely choked it up in the games we needed him the most.
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Post#600 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:09 am

I expect Marks to reshape this roster around the Big 3 in a much better fashion this summer. We need depth at PG, a wing defender, and another big man. Jordan has to go. I would hope we can retain Green, Blake, and Brown.

If Joe gets shipped out I'm fine with that. I'm fine if we keep him as well. But he let the team down on both ends and it will take a lot to repair that trust.

Nash is a terrible coach, but I thought for a game 7 he made the right moves in terms of our offensive strategy and defensively. We just ran out of gas. That being said, Marks needs to think long and hard about giving this guy the keys to this ship again.

I have no respect for Giannis. None. He's a dirty player and if he gets injured in the next round I will be glad. **** him.
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