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Post#581 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:46 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:If they could convince him to opt in and go there, I honestly wouldn't be shocked seeing a 3 team deal with Sacramento and Charlotte.

Kyrie to the Kings, immediately signs a fully guaranteed max extension. Picks 13 and 15 to Sacto. Future pick from us or Charlotte headed there as well. Thomas included. Rozier also to Sacto.

Fox and Barnes to Charlotte.

Hayward and 4th pick to us, take Jaden Ivey. He either looks like the next Ja Morant and makes KD happy, or he's used to get Dame or Donovan Mitchell. Or KD wants out next, so Ivey and to a lesser extent Simmons, future proofs us.


Bro Kyrie is not playing in Sacramento. Are you insane? :lol:

Idk what fantasy world you live in.
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Post#582 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:59 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:If they could convince him to opt in and go there, I honestly wouldn't be shocked seeing a 3 team deal with Sacramento and Charlotte.

Kyrie to the Kings, immediately signs a fully guaranteed max extension. Picks 13 and 15 to Sacto. Future pick from us or Charlotte headed there as well. Thomas included. Rozier also to Sacto.

Fox and Barnes to Charlotte.

Hayward and 4th pick to us, take Jaden Ivey. He either looks like the next Ja Morant and makes KD happy, or he's used to get Dame or Donovan Mitchell. Or KD wants out next, so Ivey and to a lesser extent Simmons, future proofs us.


Bro Kyrie is not playing in Sacramento. Are you insane? :lol:

Idk what fantasy world you live in.

I honestly don't think he cares too much about winning, or at least contending. I think he cares more about his location, getting all the long term money possible without stipulations, and being allowed to play his brand of basketball, while doing whatever he likes off the court, even if that means missing games on the floor to do so.

I also think Sacto would facilitate all that to get him and would have the remaining pieces and assets after a deal such as the above, to put a relatively consistent playoff team on the floor.

To me, Kyrie doesn't care much about getting chips any more, he's good with one. Another one would be a nice bonus, not a Kobe hugging the trophy, this is what I live for moment. As long as he gets paid, is allowed to try and lead the league in scoring, lives in a nice, liberal locale, is allowed to be as Kyrie as Kyrie likes with no repercussions and is at least on a competitive playoff level squad, that would make him content for the moment, even if that moment is fleeting.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#583 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:01 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:If they could convince him to opt in and go there, I honestly wouldn't be shocked seeing a 3 team deal with Sacramento and Charlotte.

Kyrie to the Kings, immediately signs a fully guaranteed max extension. Picks 13 and 15 to Sacto. Future pick from us or Charlotte headed there as well. Thomas included. Rozier also to Sacto.

Fox and Barnes to Charlotte.

Hayward and 4th pick to us, take Jaden Ivey. He either looks like the next Ja Morant and makes KD happy, or he's used to get Dame or Donovan Mitchell. Or KD wants out next, so Ivey and to a lesser extent Simmons, future proofs us.


Bro Kyrie is not playing in Sacramento. Are you insane? :lol:

Idk what fantasy world you live in.

I honestly don't think he cares too much about winning, or at least contending. I think he cares more about his location, getting all the long term money possible without stipulations, and being allowed to play his brand of basketball, while doing whatever he likes off the court, even if that means missing games on the floor to do so.

I also think Sacto would facilitate all that to get him and would have the remaining pieces and assets after a deal such as the above, to put a relatively consistent playoff team on the floor.

To me, Kyrie doesn't care much about getting chips any more, he's good with one. Another one would be a nice bonus, not a Kobe hugging the trophy, this is what I live for moment. As long as he gets paid, is allowed to try and lead the league in scoring, lives in a nice, liberal locale, is allowed to be as Kyrie as Kyrie likes with no repercussions and is at least on a competitive playoff level squad, that would make him content for the moment, even if that moment is fleeting.


Kyrie cares about where he lives way more than he does the money or anything else.

Hes playing in NYC or LA. These Sacramento trades are not even worth discussing.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#584 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:58 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Bro Kyrie is not playing in Sacramento. Are you insane? :lol:

Idk what fantasy world you live in.

I honestly don't think he cares too much about winning, or at least contending. I think he cares more about his location, getting all the long term money possible without stipulations, and being allowed to play his brand of basketball, while doing whatever he likes off the court, even if that means missing games on the floor to do so.

I also think Sacto would facilitate all that to get him and would have the remaining pieces and assets after a deal such as the above, to put a relatively consistent playoff team on the floor.

To me, Kyrie doesn't care much about getting chips any more, he's good with one. Another one would be a nice bonus, not a Kobe hugging the trophy, this is what I live for moment. As long as he gets paid, is allowed to try and lead the league in scoring, lives in a nice, liberal locale, is allowed to be as Kyrie as Kyrie likes with no repercussions and is at least on a competitive playoff level squad, that would make him content for the moment, even if that moment is fleeting.


Kyrie cares about where he lives way more than he does the money or anything else.

Hes playing in NYC or LA. These Sacramento trades are not even worth discussing.


I don't think Kyrie wants to leave the area to be honest, but who knows what that quack is thinking.
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Post#585 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:28 am

Sacramento just can't stay out of their own way.
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Post#588 » by gigantes » Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:22 pm

So the in-season tournament starting '23-24 sounds interesting, if incomplete.

It seems only the final two teams actually play an extra game, and evidently the best eight teams get some sort of reward, which I guess they're still trying to figure out.

Main issue to me is that at the end of the season, winning an in-season cup seems kind of underwhelming when a different team has likely won the title. Like a silver-plated trinket, similar to the winner of the all-star game.

If they could reward an extra pick to the winner, that would at least be interesting. Maybe a mid-first rounder? Or specifically, something that could help the in-season cup winner make a push for the real title, like said pick, or maybe a trade exception or something.

IMO if you're going to make a strong push for this junior title, quite likely playing your top guys extra minutes, increasing their injury risk, methinks there has to be sufficient reward.

I think my main issue with the NBA is that they play too many games, and this kinda just exacerbates that.
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Post#589 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:20 pm

gigantes wrote:So the in-season tournament starting '23-24 sounds interesting, if incomplete.

It seems only the final two teams actually play an extra game, and evidently the best eight teams get some sort of reward, which I guess they're still trying to figure out.

Main issue to me is that at the end of the season, winning an in-season cup seems kind of underwhelming when a different team has likely won the title. Like a silver-plated trinket, similar to the winner of the all-star game.

If they could reward an extra pick to the winner, that would at least be interesting. Maybe a mid-first rounder? Or specifically, something that could help the in-season cup winner make a push for the real title, like said pick, or maybe a trade exception or something.

IMO if you're going to make a strong push for this junior title, quite likely playing your top guys extra minutes, increasing their injury risk, methinks there has to be sufficient reward.

I think my main issue with the NBA is that they play too many games, and this kinda just exacerbates that.



I think it's pointless. NBA needs to switch to a MLB/NFL hybrid schedule to reduce travel and hype up competition by playing 3 game sets.

These guys can barely be bothered to play in the regular season, a tournament just sounds like a great opportunity for some team to give Silver the finger and rest their guys during tourney play.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#590 » by gigantes » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:03 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:...These guys can barely be bothered to play in the regular season, a tournament just sounds like a great opportunity for some team to give Silver the finger and rest their guys during tourney play.

To be clear, the tourney games will also be regular season games, so will still count towards overall standings. Just that they'll be a specific subset of games during the fall, with one extra game played in December to determine the winner.

Thinking about it a little more-- I guess I'm not so down on it as before. If it was a standalone kind of thing that occurred independent of the RS, that would be a needless burden to me, but since it will happen parallel to everything else going on, I imagine it won't be that big of a distraction.

In fact, I'm thinking it's just one fun little extra that will help make the whole season a bit more interesting, as it can be kind of a slog as is, with regular season games being borderline meaningless at times.
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Post#592 » by gigantes » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:35 am

Far as I can tell, Ime did nothing wrong, and I'm not a fan of humiliating people because of antiquated 'organisational guidelines.'

Imagine having a relationship with a coworker, then the world going all NewsRadio. (Dave & Lisa alert)

EDIT: Oh. I guess he cheated on his wife. Oh.
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Post#593 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:27 am

Someone on twitter said he thought Ime got suspended for using the 'whites only' bathroom in the celtics practice facility :lol: oh lord that made me yell just now.

But yeah, Ime is wrong for several reasons here, #1 being he ruined a 12 year relationship with his partner/child's mother who just so happens to be Nia Long, but #2, and most importantly, he is in a position of authority on that team and engaging in a sexual relationship with a staff member working underneath him is a HUGE no no. Huge. They drill this stuff into you for a reason because it opens up the team and operating company to significant legal exposure if things go south.

I don't know what was going on at home that led him to cheating on her, but if you're gonna cheat bro, do that crap where you DON'T make your bread.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#594 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:41 am

gigantes wrote:Far as I can tell, Ime did nothing wrong, and I'm not a fan of humiliating people because of antiquated 'organisational guidelines.'

Imagine having a relationship with a coworker, then the world going all NewsRadio. (Dave & Lisa alert)

EDIT: Oh. I guess he cheated on his wife. Oh.
Ime, you're on your own here, mate.


The cheating aside, as a person in a position of authority as a head coach, f*cking a staff member working under you is really bad. This isn't a case of two 20 somethings working together in the ticket office hooking up.

I'm in a managerial position at my job, corporate. If I were to begin screwing around with one of the women on my team that report to me, and I got caught I would get a boot up under my ass from HR.

In simpler terms what if this scenario played out:

-Ime and female staff member start having an affair.

-things go sour. Eventually the situation becomes toxic, said staff member gets dismissed for whatever reason

-staff member lawyers up and sues the team, owning company, and Udoka for any number of reasons pertaining to her firing being due to the fallout from said sexual relationship between Udoka and the staff member.

Power dynamics within corporate structures aren't something to mess around with. She could easily say in a lawsuit that she felt coerced into engaging in a relationship with her boss because otherwise she could lose her livelihood. That's why they put this stuff in employee handbooks and make you sign off on saying that you've read everything.

Udoka is lucky he's a head coach that took his team to the finals and not some office exec because he'd probably be fired for this.
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Post#595 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:50 am

Also, if this is a soft firing of sorts that results in Udoka getting dismissed from Boston, Sean Marks should immediately go after him.
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Post#596 » by Gooner » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:51 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Also, if this is a soft firing of sorts that results in Udoka getting dismissed from Boston, Sean Marks should immediately go after him.


Agreed. Ime should have been the coach of this team in the first place.
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Post#597 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:42 pm

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gigantes wrote:Far as I can tell, Ime did nothing wrong, and I'm not a fan of humiliating people because of antiquated 'organisational guidelines.'

Imagine having a relationship with a coworker, then the world going all NewsRadio. (Dave & Lisa alert)

EDIT: Oh. I guess he cheated on his wife. Oh.
Ime, you're on your own here, mate.


The cheating aside, as a person in a position of authority as a head coach, f*cking a staff member working under you is really bad. This isn't a case of two 20 somethings working together in the ticket office hooking up.

I'm in a managerial position at my job, corporate. If I were to begin screwing around with one of the women on my team that report to me, and I got caught I would get a boot up under my ass from HR.

In simpler terms what if this scenario played out:

-Ime and female staff member start having an affair.

-things go sour. Eventually the situation becomes toxic, said staff member gets dismissed for whatever reason

-staff member lawyers up and sues the team, owning company, and Udoka for any number of reasons pertaining to her firing being due to the fallout from said sexual relationship between Udoka and the staff member.

Power dynamics within corporate structures aren't something to mess around with. She could easily say in a lawsuit that she felt coerced into engaging in a relationship with her boss because otherwise she could lose her livelihood. That's why they put this stuff in employee handbooks and make you sign off on saying that you've read everything.

Udoka is lucky he's a head coach that took his team to the finals and not some office exec because he'd probably be fired for this.

Did it come out that it was in fact a subordinate? If so, that's likely the reason why the penalty is so harsh.

I will take things a step further. Many companies, including the one I work for, will not allow spouses (even those married for decades) or any couple in a relationship to work in the same department, even as peers. It can put management in an awkward position if there are relationship issues, but also could impact management's ability to impartially provide performance evaluations and compensation.
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Post#598 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:30 pm

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gigantes wrote:Far as I can tell, Ime did nothing wrong, and I'm not a fan of humiliating people because of antiquated 'organisational guidelines.'

Imagine having a relationship with a coworker, then the world going all NewsRadio. (Dave & Lisa alert)

EDIT: Oh. I guess he cheated on his wife. Oh.
Ime, you're on your own here, mate.


The cheating aside, as a person in a position of authority as a head coach, f*cking a staff member working under you is really bad. This isn't a case of two 20 somethings working together in the ticket office hooking up.

I'm in a managerial position at my job, corporate. If I were to begin screwing around with one of the women on my team that report to me, and I got caught I would get a boot up under my ass from HR.

In simpler terms what if this scenario played out:

-Ime and female staff member start having an affair.

-things go sour. Eventually the situation becomes toxic, said staff member gets dismissed for whatever reason

-staff member lawyers up and sues the team, owning company, and Udoka for any number of reasons pertaining to her firing being due to the fallout from said sexual relationship between Udoka and the staff member.

Power dynamics within corporate structures aren't something to mess around with. She could easily say in a lawsuit that she felt coerced into engaging in a relationship with her boss because otherwise she could lose her livelihood. That's why they put this stuff in employee handbooks and make you sign off on saying that you've read everything.

Udoka is lucky he's a head coach that took his team to the finals and not some office exec because he'd probably be fired for this.

Did it come out that it was in fact a subordinate? If so, that's likely the reason why the penalty is so harsh.

I will take things a step further. Many companies, including the one I work for, will not allow spouses (even those married for decades) or any couple in a relationship to work in the same department, even as peers. It can put management in an awkward position if there are relationship issues, but also could impact management's ability to impartially provide performance evaluations and compensation.


The person hasn't been named (and frankly, nor should they be because we know how horrible fans are) but from what Shams said it was a member of the staff.

And your company policy is the same as mines. They don't play that game. If you're going to chase tail at work, do it outside of your department and tread lightly

I honestly can't believe how stupid Ime is to do this knowing company policy. Oh well, he can come back home to Brooklyn.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#599 » by Paradise » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:32 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Also, if this is a soft firing of sorts that results in Udoka getting dismissed from Boston, Sean Marks should immediately go after him.

I’m honest pretty pissed off about that situation. He was definitely wrong for inappropriate work conduct but holy **** a season long suspension is soft.

Tatum cheats on his girl with a current staff member tomorrow, he will still be in training camp.
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Re: Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread 

Post#600 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:58 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:Also, if this is a soft firing of sorts that results in Udoka getting dismissed from Boston, Sean Marks should immediately go after him.

I’m honest pretty pissed off about that situation. He was definitely wrong for inappropriate work conduct but holy **** a season long suspension is soft.

Tatum cheats on his girl with a current staff member tomorrow, he will still be in training camp.


I have a feeling that this may be more than what we're hearing because if it was just a consensual relationship they could have kept this in house and they could have disciplined him privately

I hope it's nothing truly bad.
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