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Post#61 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:13 pm

Netaman wrote:gotta be honest i really like that Suns package. bummed about the glitch for Bam, but I have always like Bridges. I wanted to trade up for him in that draft. Ayton is whatever without KD still here but that's a legit team so at least Houston wont be getting top 5 picks.

Simmons
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Brown / Harris
Bridges
Ayton

shoot kyrie to the moon and im excited about next year and what they decide to do with all their new picks.


Honestly we shouldn’t worry about Houston picks , just do the best for the Nets , if they draft next Jordan with our pick so be it
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Post#62 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:14 pm

Netaman wrote:gotta be honest i really like that Suns package. bummed about the glitch for Bam, but I have always like Bridges. I wanted to trade up for him in that draft. Ayton is whatever without KD still here but that's a legit team so at least Houston wont be getting top 5 picks.

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Ayton

shoot kyrie to the moon and im excited about next year and what they decide to do with all their new picks.



Yeah I think that we can still field a good team. If we can dump Kyrie for Westbrook's expiring/buy out then we will have plenty of cap space next season.
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Post#63 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:16 pm

3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it
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Post#64 » by R-DAWG » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:17 pm

azee2890 wrote:Nets flip Kyrie for Westbrook.

Nets trade Durant for Ayton, Bridges and some picks.

Nets new line up is

PG - Westbrook
SG - Curry
SF - Bridges
PF - Simmons
C - Ayton

Great defensive team. Westbrook and Simmons aren't a good fit but maybe you can stagger their minutes. And you get to recoup some picks for ability to build towards the future.


Westbrook is a short term thing and Brooklyn will likely be looking to flip the expiring of WB along with picks acquired for Durant/Irving to round out the roster.

My question is - does Simmons/Ayton make sense long term?
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Post#65 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:20 pm

the way the game is going Ayton kind of doesn't make sense long term anywhere - which is why Phoenix doesn't want to match him.

but for a non-championship team he's fine. he will put up numbers and has value. he's young enough maybe he takes a bigger step forward than expected.

Ayton is the Andrew Wiggins in this scenario. You hope for the best and hope you can make the best out of him.
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Post#66 » by Shark » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:21 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it

He was brought in to manage egos and he couldn't even succeed at that (obviously not all his fault though, Marks and Tsai had their hands in that too).

He doesn't come off as someone that would be a great developmental coach either.

Unfortunately I still think it's unlikely Nash will be fired, but it'd be best if he was.
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Post#67 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:21 pm

How many seasons must we go through hoping another team doesn’t land use draft picks we traded to them to draft a superstar lol?

Tatum is already an allstar and will most likely progress to be a superstar.

Who’s next?
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Post#68 » by tripa » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:22 pm

azee2890 wrote:Nets flip Kyrie for Westbrook.

Nets trade Durant for Ayton, Bridges and some picks.

Nets new line up is

PG - Westbrook
SG - Curry
SF - Bridges
PF - Simmons
C - Ayton

Great defensive team. Westbrook and Simmons aren't a good fit but maybe you can stagger their minutes. And you get to recoup some picks for ability to build towards the future.


This team would score like 80 points a game maximum
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Post#69 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:22 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it

He was brought in to manage egos and he couldn't even succeed at that (obviously not all his fault though, Marks and Tsai had their hands in that too).

He doesn't come off as someone that would be a great developmental coach either.

Unfortunately I still think it's unlikely Nash will be fired, but it'd be best if he was.

What if Kenny Atkinson comes back? :lol:
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Post#70 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:24 pm

Just heard Richard Jefferson on ESPN and he was spitting facts. This is not some doom and gloom situation. If Marks uses the KD trade properly to re-tool, the Nets will be a playoff team.

Let's just chill and watch this unfold.
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Post#71 » by Shark » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:25 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it

He was brought in to manage egos and he couldn't even succeed at that (obviously not all his fault though, Marks and Tsai had their hands in that too).

He doesn't come off as someone that would be a great developmental coach either.

Unfortunately I still think it's unlikely Nash will be fired, but it'd be best if he was.

What if Kenny Atkinson comes back? :lol:

I would love it. He had his flaws of course, but he got the most out of the talent he was provided. No way he comes back after he got stabbed in the back by Tsai, and maybe Marks, though.
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Post#72 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:26 pm

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it

He was brought in to manage egos and he couldn't even succeed at that (obviously not all his fault though, Marks and Tsai had their hands in that too).

He doesn't come off as someone that would be a great developmental coach either.

Unfortunately I still think it's unlikely Nash will be fired, but it'd be best if he was.

What if Kenny Atkinson comes back? :lol:


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Post#73 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:27 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:3 pm Durant requests a trade

It’s 4.17 pm , why is Nash still a HC ???

If he stays anyways I’m gonna loose it

He was brought in to manage egos and he couldn't even succeed at that (obviously not all his fault though, Marks and Tsai had their hands in that too).

He doesn't come off as someone that would be a great developmental coach either.

Unfortunately I still think it's unlikely Nash will be fired, but it'd be best if he was.

What if Kenny Atkinson comes back? :lol:


I've been low key thinking this. What if Marks called him in anticipation of the craziness that has occurred in the last few weeks and told him he can get his job back once KD and KAI blow this up? :lol:
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Post#74 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 pm

If Nets end up with a lineup of Curry, Harris, Bridges, Simmons and Ayton, that will be a fairly solid long term lineup. Plus whatever they get from Kyrie.

The problem would be mental toughness so it would be good to get a strong personality vet for Kyrie. If they could get something like Lowry and Tucker from Miami for Kyrie plus Ayton and Bridges for KD, that would be a solid team with a pretty bright future to build on. Ayton still has a ton of upside. Amare may help with his aggressiveness too.

If you look at Ayton's FG% from each mid range area, it is elite, better than any C. He also can switch defensively and is pretty versatile. People often say he's spoon fed by Paul but if you just toss it to him anywhere it midrange, he will hit at a very high range.

His TS% of 65.6% considering he shoots 2/3 of his shots outside of 3 ft is pretty impressive. He had the highest FG% in the NBA of players who had over 10 shots. Actually among the best in history, which is crazy given most of his shots were away from the rim, in the short mid range, mid range, or long mid range.

Here is his shot distribution. You can see he has a ton of assisted shots but that's in part because if anyone just tosses it to him anywhere in mid range, he has an elite hook shot from 3-10 ft and a great mid range shot outside of that. Around 59% from 3-10ft, and 55% from 10-16ft. Then like over 46% from 16 ft-to 3 pt range. He will add the 3 too...and was over 39% from 3, albeit on very low volume.

Splits by distance including a shot chart... https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aytonde01/shooting/2022
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Post#75 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:35 pm

bwgood77 wrote:If Nets end up with a lineup of Curry, Harris, Bridges, Simmons and Ayton, that will be a fairly solid long term lineup. Plus whatever they get from Kyrie.

The problem would be mental toughness so it would be good to get a strong personality vet for Kyrie. If they could get something like Lowry and Tucker from Miami for Kyrie plus Ayton and Bridges for KD, that would be a solid team with a pretty bright future to build on. Ayton still has a ton of upside. Amare may help with his aggressiveness too.

If you look at Ayton's FG% from each mid range area, it is elite, better than any C. He also can switch defensively and is pretty versatile. People often say he's spoon fed by Paul but if you just toss it to him anywhere it midrange, he will hit at a very high range.

His TS% of 65.6% considering he shoots 2/3 of his shots outside of 3 ft is pretty impressive. He had the highest FG% in the NBA of players who had over 10 shots. Actually among the best in history, which is crazy given most of his shots were away from the rim, in the short mid range, mid range, or long mid range.

Here is his shot distribution. You can see he has a ton of assisted shots but that's in part because if anyone just tosses it to him anywhere in mid range, he has an elite hook shot from 3-10 ft and a great mid range shot outside of that. Around 59% from 3-10ft, and 55% from 10-16ft. Then like over 46% from 16 ft-to 3 pt range. He will add the 3 too...and was over 39% from 3, albeit on very low volume.

Splits by distance including a shot chart... https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aytonde01/shooting/2022


agree all around. my pie in the sky for kyrie is Dinwiddie and a few picks. he can step right back in with a better group around him and we already know he has the personality for the situation.
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Post#76 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:37 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Just heard Richard Jefferson on ESPN and he was spitting facts. This is not some doom and gloom situation. If Marks uses the KD trade properly to re-tool, the Nets will be a playoff team.

Let's just chill and watch this unfold.

This is what I have been saying. I don't get the doom & gloom. The Nets post KD trade will be significantly better than that 2019 team everybody has an overinflated perception of.

Plus KD+Kyrie have not produced wins together. KD is doing us a favor.
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Post#77 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:41 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Just heard Richard Jefferson on ESPN and he was spitting facts. This is not some doom and gloom situation. If Marks uses the KD trade properly to re-tool, the Nets will be a playoff team.

Let's just chill and watch this unfold.



Exactly.

People need to understand: WE WEREN'T WINNING WITH KD AND KYRIE.

How can anyone have watched that Boston series and remotely think that we were championship bound? We got demolished and KD and Kyrie both gave up after two games.
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Post#78 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:43 pm

Woj on ESPN is saying Kyrie and KD still want to play together and could be traded together. We might get CP3 in return.



Lmao You can’t make this **** up, people!
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Post#79 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:45 pm

Paradise wrote:Whoa

Woj on ESPN is saying Kyrie and KD still want to play together and could be traded together lol

So, we could get CP3 in return.


What the **** is going on, it’s not even 6pm yet?!


honestly sign me up. CP3 is a stable individual. here's a trade that looks like it works (used Booker simply as a proxy for whatever amount Ayton costs in S&T, not sure what that would be due to BYC and such but i think it's doable?).

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22pwf983
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Post#80 » by GTR11 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:46 pm

Read on Twitter
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I was waiting for this. I think packaging KD and Kyrie to PHX is not out realm. Let's take all their good stuff from them suckers.

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