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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#61 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:18 am

I don't get why we never play Sharpe. Hes a good rebounder and seems to be able to shoot 3s. I say we give him some run.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#62 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:19 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:7 turnovers from Durant.

Inexcusable. He hurt the team badly this quarter. I'd rather let Kyrie handle it

Need that film session for entire team. It's about adjusting positioning. Once you start moving bodies like GSW did, they will give up wide open 3's.


I don't think Boston did anything great. The Nets wounds were mostly self inflicted
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#63 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:19 am

MrDollarBills wrote:That's game.

Nets need to think long and hard about what needs to be done here. Durant needs to hold himself accountable


Tatum is just the better player now. I think its become obvious.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#64 » by GTR11 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:20 am

We just couldn't make one or two stops to break the momentum. Something what Milwaukee and Miami did alright because they have system established. Tweak here and there Saltics give up wide open 3's.

Just need to concentrate on our team right now and go from there. These Saltics clown are fluke. I expected much more from them.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#65 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:23 am

Someone get the ball away from KD... we need a pg to bring it up the floor.

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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#66 » by GTR11 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:23 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:7 turnovers from Durant.

Inexcusable. He hurt the team badly this quarter. I'd rather let Kyrie handle it

Need that film session for entire team. It's about adjusting positioning. Once you start moving bodies like GSW did, they will give up wide open 3's.


I don't think Boston did anything great. The Nets wounds were mostly self inflicted

Exactly, they actually looked mediocre imo. Expected way more from them since they got established system they've ran for some time.

That 4th Q ISO plays with KD just need a little tweak. Like where shooters and main helper should be located. It comes with time, no way around it.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#67 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:23 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:That's game.

Nets need to think long and hard about what needs to be done here. Durant needs to hold himself accountable


Tatum is just the better player now. I think its become obvious.


And that's fine. But KD committing 8 turnovers in the way that he did is a correctable issue

Durant needs to be moving without the ball, not isolating.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#68 » by Stone » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:24 am

Well it was a great privilege making the last four game threads. I wish the next person who makes the Hornets thread has a good run!

It was not all bad. I don't see the difference between us the Celtics as insurmountable. But JV has to do better. Hat off to the Celtics , tremendous effort from Brown. He had like 20 points in the first quarter.

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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#69 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:25 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:That's game.

Nets need to think long and hard about what needs to be done here. Durant needs to hold himself accountable


Tatum is just the better player now. I think its become obvious.


And that's fine. But KD committing 8 turnovers in the way that he did is a correctable issue

Durant needs to be moving without the ball, not isolating.


This is where we miss Simmons. KD shouldn't be making all these passes and bringing the ball up the floor all the time.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#70 » by GTR11 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:27 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Someone get the ball away from KD... we need a pg to bring it up the floor.

Same script different gm

We needed that big wing players that can switch. Ben, KD and Royce is as good as it gets around league. I've seen Royce giving JB business here and there.

This is where you need instinctualy gifted D player like Ben who can make difference. Couple stops in a middle of the 4th and it's completely different ball game.

We just need some time. JV actually showing signs of being OK, not good or great, just ok. It can change with time.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#71 » by GTR11 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 1:31 am

God damn I can't wait for TJ to get healthy. That dude can separate us from others. We will be on another level with him playing close to 100.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#72 » by ChuckS » Mon Dec 5, 2022 3:17 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:That's game.

Nets need to think long and hard about what needs to be done here. Durant needs to hold himself accountable


Tatum is just the better player now. I think its become obvious.



He may be. I think it's too early to tell. Because of the age difference it's probably ultimately inevitable.

But did anyone notice Tatum had 9 turnovers tonight?
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#73 » by Decipher » Mon Dec 5, 2022 3:18 am

Nets need Simmons desperately

Those 4th quarter turnovers were killers and the offence looks stagnant as hell anyway
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#74 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Dec 5, 2022 4:28 am

At the end though, it was just one v one bball.ball.. iso...

Enough of that!
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#75 » by sashaturiaf » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:05 am

Well that was a very comprehensive loss, we tried to win this game but could never make the right play once they decided to turn it on. They're simply bigger and more physical who can also shoot it well enough to keep us at bay.

This could end up being a good loss as it makes our flaws clear to see, I'd rather have one of these losses in December than in April anyday. They really exposed our lack of 2 way players and size in general, Ben and Yuta being back will help but this roster is not complete by any means, now it's on Marks to do his job and round it out. The lack of action on acquiring top class role players has really been negligent on the FOs part, given we know how short KDs championship window is and the trade exceptions we've had at our disposal. The Royce O'Neal trade was a good step in the right direction but we can't afford to be standing pat.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#76 » by Eatgreenz » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:33 am

Not really worried about this 1st matchup with the Celtics. Good game to see what we have to fix. Really wanna see how we do against the Celtics with wings we added ben n yuta. Ben especially would change things as our point of attack defender. Jaylen not getting by Ben with ease like he did royce
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#77 » by Papi_swav » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:41 am

we blew too many opportunities especially on fast break. KD has slippery hands at times. and kyrie didn't play well. I like that we fought tho but Boston looks beatable especially if we had Ben and Yuta. Hope we can get another win streak going
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#78 » by Papi_swav » Mon Dec 5, 2022 6:53 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:That's game.

Nets need to think long and hard about what needs to be done here. Durant needs to hold himself accountable


Tatum is just the better player now. I think its become obvious.


And that's fine. But KD committing 8 turnovers in the way that he did is a correctable issue

Durant needs to be moving without the ball, not isolating.

I wouldn't say tatum is the better player now, I think KD is still the better player. Tatum also had 9 turnovers himself and didn't play that good also. I also think KDs defense is better than Tatum, KD blocks balls like a center. KD problem is he has sweaty hands sometimes and he throws the ball cross court right into the other players hands. I seen like 2 times he tried to pull up for a shot and the ball just slips thru his hands, also he threw cross court passes that got intercepted like 3 times. I think that's fixable like MDB said.

Another thing, he might be doing a little too much out there, it's not totally his fault but we shouldn't have him bringing the ball up the court this many times. It's minor things but we played very tough defense and forced Tatum to make turnovers. He's playing with alot of energy being the ball handler, top shot creator and playing defense on Tatum or Brown .. that's a very tough task for any player. This is where Kyrie needs to come in and step it up. We need alot more than 18 points from him. This game he should of took over while Smart wasn't playing, but his shots just wasn't falling and refs don't ever do him any favors.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#79 » by Minnamaker » Mon Dec 5, 2022 9:41 am

All in all, i think it was a good game. We played hard and we held the No. 1 ranked offense to ~43% shooting. They are just the better team right now, but we have room for improvement and were missing some players. I thought the game showed, that we can compete.

The offense was stagnant at times. You have to give the Celtics credit, but there was also a lack of player/ball movement sometimes. After a good start, Oneale took some stupid 3s and boston was right back in the game. Then later in the game, we fell in some 1on1 routine again. I think fatigue was a factor, too.

Defensively we need a little bit more discipline, but the effort was there. Ben and Yuta will bring us more size. Now we need to build some chemistry. It would be so important to have 30 - 40 games without major injuries and distractions.

I still don't get why Cam is in the rotation though..
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 6:00 12/4 

Post#80 » by ChuckS » Mon Dec 5, 2022 11:48 am

NetsJets wrote:This feels like watching the playoffs. Constant KD turnovers and clanked shots.



Actually, except for the turnovers, which annoyed me, I felt encouraged that KD had solved most of the playoff problems. It's seems clear that he does constantly work on his game.

In the playoffs he shot below his average and was held to 39% efficiency by Boston. But I could see him trying different things from game to game. He was on his own, with no coaching adjustments, and on a team that, for the most part, could be left unguarded. Tonight he had 31 points, and at 54% shooting, both above his averages, hardly clanking. But overlooked by most, because of the turnovers, was the fact that the rest of the team shot 34%. Certainly the turnovers hurt, but Boston did have one more, so I'm unable to quantify just how much. I think, however, it is simplistic not to look at this loss as a team effort. Once again the rest of the team did little offensively.

We've been screaming for another big, thinking that would make us competitive. Maybe we should also start worrying about our guard play, both its shooting and defense. I think Kyrie has been our only consistent threat and I didn't think we could beat Boston without Simmons and particularly his defense.

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