GT: Nets vs Twolves. 3/10 at 8 pm

[JoseRizal]

I just don't know what he brings to the table. His 3 hasn't been falling. He is decent on defense, but this team already has a ton of wings who are just as good as him on that end.

Watch his Suns games , it’s the fooocking Vaughn offense not CamJ fault , he was great on Suns and his so **** on Nets , take a clue

I agree. Vaughn wouldn’t know how to use Klay Thompson on this team.

This is exactly why I said we made a HUGE mistake extending this idiot instead of keeping him accountable with an expiring contract. Now, he feels no need to do things an interim coach would usually do. He knows he’s here, we know he’s here and they do as well. That doesn’t mean he’s good at his job because he gives great postgame content.

This idiot, doesn’t know how to manage rotations. We’re crediting him for basic skills for a head coach. It’s embarrassing. He hasn’t shown much better than Kenny.

One thing that pisses me off is that he positions Mikal/Cam in the corner, while allowing Spencer to dribble the ball for almost 20 seconds until he runs out of time to either take a step back 3, contested lay-up or a last second kick out.

[ChuckS]

We're lucky to win this game. Coaching has to improve, especially during end games

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

[ArksNetsSince99]

We're lucky to win this game. Coaching has to improve, especially during end games

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

You lost me at "brilliantly coached game by JV”

Didn’t bother to read the rest

[ChuckS]

You lost me at "brilliantly coached game by JV”

Didn’t bother to read the rest

Well it's about time I got a little lucky!

[Sharcm1]

We're lucky to win this game. Coaching has to improve, especially during end games

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

I did actually read your post. I do agree on one thing. The coaching staff did a good job making adjustments at half time. Or at least motivating the players to play better as I don’t think there were actually changes but more effort.

The rest is, well, not great. I do understand that players iso. But even with Irving it was mostly within the flow of the offense, the problem was spencer walked the ball up, dribbled at the top of the key for 15 seconds and then tried to make a move. For the last like five mins of the game. They acted like they were up by 20. And it didn’t stop when the wolves came back. You want him to iso fine. Get into a set. Run him off screens. Move the players around him and do it with 15-20 second on the clock and not 4-8. Every shot down the stretch was a desperation shot to beat the shot clock. For the last mins of the game. That’s the old way. That’s the bs harden way.

This game didn’t have to go into OT. He didn’t have to play Spencer and bridges 40 plus mins. He has other players. Other scorers that can contribute to a team. But he chooses to not play them. Only plays them out of desperation. He played cam for 6 mins and then never went back to him. 6 mins in which he basically had him stand in the corner. Come on.

They got lucky. Not a good win. And lucky one.

[TheNetsFan]

CamJ is choking in this game

I just don't know what he brings to the table. His 3 hasn't been falling. He is decent on defense, but this team already has a ton of wings who are just as good as him on that end.

He might easily end up as an overpay especially since he turned down a contract that's almost similar to Mikal.

Johnson is a good player. Very good (not great) shooter with length and athleticism. At the right cost, he's great to have. At $20+mil per year for 4+ years, he's a good, but overpaid player.

[GTR11]

We're lucky to win this game. Coaching has to improve, especially during end games

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

I did actually read your post. I do agree on one thing. The coaching staff did a good job making adjustments at half time. Or at least motivating the players to play better as I don’t think there were actually changes but more effort.

The rest is, well, not great. I do understand that players iso. But even with Irving it was mostly within the flow of the offense, the problem was spencer walked the ball up, dribbled at the top of the key for 15 seconds and then tried to make a move. For the last like five mins of the game. They acted like they were up by 20. And it didn’t stop when the wolves came back. You want him to iso fine. Get into a set. Run him off screens. Move the players around him and do it with 15-20 second on the clock and not 4-8. Every shot down the stretch was a desperation shot to beat the shot clock. For the last mins of the game. That’s the old way. That’s the bs harden way.

This game didn’t have to go into OT. He didn’t have to play Spencer and bridges 40 plus mins. He has other players. Other scorers that can contribute to a team. But he chooses to not play them. Only plays them out of desperation. He played cam for 6 mins and then never went back to him. 6 mins in which he basically had him stand in the corner. Come on.

They got lucky. Not a good win. And lucky one.

What part they getting into PO mode most of you don't get? JV/Kokoskov will shorten their rotation, they just can't find right mix yet, that's why they still poking around.

How many games this guys played together?

Most of this JV criticism is beyond stupid. Tells more about poster and how much he knows.

No coach will throw entire playbook or change system with 1/3 of the season left.

[Paradise]

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

I did actually read your post. I do agree on one thing. The coaching staff did a good job making adjustments at half time. Or at least motivating the players to play better as I don’t think there were actually changes but more effort.

The rest is, well, not great. I do understand that players iso. But even with Irving it was mostly within the flow of the offense, the problem was spencer walked the ball up, dribbled at the top of the key for 15 seconds and then tried to make a move. For the last like five mins of the game. They acted like they were up by 20. And it didn’t stop when the wolves came back. You want him to iso fine. Get into a set. Run him off screens. Move the players around him and do it with 15-20 second on the clock and not 4-8. Every shot down the stretch was a desperation shot to beat the shot clock. For the last mins of the game. That’s the old way. That’s the bs harden way.

This game didn’t have to go into OT. He didn’t have to play Spencer and bridges 40 plus mins. He has other players. Other scorers that can contribute to a team. But he chooses to not play them. Only plays them out of desperation. He played cam for 6 mins and then never went back to him. 6 mins in which he basically had him stand in the corner. Come on.

They got lucky. Not a good win. And lucky one.

What part they getting into PO mode most of you don't get? JV/Kokoskov will shorten their rotation, they just can't find right mix yet, that's why they still poking around.

How many games this guys played together?

Most of this JV criticism is beyond stupid. Tells more about poster and how much he knows.

No coach will throw entire playbook or change system with 1/3 of the season left.

What? You serious?

This guy runs NOTHING. I don’t know what our style of offense is. Neither does the team which is why they look often confused and hope that Mikal, Spencer or someone makes a shot or creates a shot.

We have no flow and this looks like an easy team to beat in the playoffs. Not due to talent but due to plays and execution.

[GTR11]

Naz took 3 shot entire game and only made one of them at the buzzer. His only 3pt attempt. Of not for that lucky shot there's no OT, and yes they did good enough to win at regular time. Just one lucky shot that happened to go in, they fixed it in OT.

Watching tape is one thing. Actually coaching players you never had is another story.

Even die hard Bridges fan didn’t see this coming. He exceeding expectations right now. How many 30 games he had before coming here? How often he was playmaking? If anything JV/Kokoskov doing above average job right now.

More upset with Cam. His feel for the game is what keeps him on the bench. Yeah it takes time for scorers like him to develop and actually understand what's going on, but you'd think he can pick up pace with 2 years under him.

Cam J will get paid. Though he's a taller Joe Harris. If you ask him to do little extra, bad things happen consistently.

[GTR11]

I did actually read your post. I do agree on one thing. The coaching staff did a good job making adjustments at half time. Or at least motivating the players to play better as I don’t think there were actually changes but more effort.

The rest is, well, not great. I do understand that players iso. But even with Irving it was mostly within the flow of the offense, the problem was spencer walked the ball up, dribbled at the top of the key for 15 seconds and then tried to make a move. For the last like five mins of the game. They acted like they were up by 20. And it didn’t stop when the wolves came back. You want him to iso fine. Get into a set. Run him off screens. Move the players around him and do it with 15-20 second on the clock and not 4-8. Every shot down the stretch was a desperation shot to beat the shot clock. For the last mins of the game. That’s the old way. That’s the bs harden way.

This game didn’t have to go into OT. He didn’t have to play Spencer and bridges 40 plus mins. He has other players. Other scorers that can contribute to a team. But he chooses to not play them. Only plays them out of desperation. He played cam for 6 mins and then never went back to him. 6 mins in which he basically had him stand in the corner. Come on.

They got lucky. Not a good win. And lucky one.

What part they getting into PO mode most of you don't get? JV/Kokoskov will shorten their rotation, they just can't find right mix yet, that's why they still poking around.

How many games this guys played together?

Most of this JV criticism is beyond stupid. Tells more about poster and how much he knows.

No coach will throw entire playbook or change system with 1/3 of the season left.

What? You serious?

This guy runs NOTHING. I don’t know what our style of offense is. Neither does the team which is why they look often confused and hope that Mikal, Spencer or someone makes a shot or creates a shot.

We have no flow and this looks like an easy team to beat in the playoffs. Not due to talent but due to plays and execution.

Again, no coach will change their system with one third of the season remaining. Once you try to understand that, maybe it'll open your eyes to other things your mind is blocking.

2. Again, they trying to find out what they working with. Zen, Pop etc coaches won't be able to coach without knowing who they got.

Again, once you try to understand that and actually watch without agenda... a lot will make sense after.

[GTR11]

No I'm not saying JV is a good coach or should've been extended. Just saying obvious stuff that grown and experienced fan should know.

System? We never had system. We got several set of PnR plays that build for KD and Kyrie to freestyle.

Din struggles because he's a motion offense guy.

Cam to immature to read D.

Bridges is the only player that can get bucket or make a play.

Rest of them can't even dribble good enough without turning it over.

[Netaman]

I think the overtime strategy was likely related to fatigue. i think on the road with din/bridges playing 45+ min, no claxton, vaughn thought it was smarter to shorten the game.

without claxton it's hard to put harris, curry, or thomas on the floor - and other than the group that played in OT those were the only other 3 who entered the game.

spencer facilitated the winning 3 from DFS, so i think those calling it iso plays all ot are off a little bit, i think the plays were just run the clock then try to let dniwiddie make something happen in the last 3-5 seconds. not pure 'get out of his way' iso.

[NetsJets]

We have to get off to better starts. Not having a consistent scorer really shows in games like last night. I’m not the biggest Cam Thomas fan in the world, but I figured they would’ve gave him a look during that drought. Either way I’m glad we found a way to win the game.

[GTR11]

I think the overtime strategy was likely related to fatigue. i think on the road with din/bridges playing 45+ min, no claxton, vaughn thought it was smarter to shorten the game.

without claxton it's hard to put harris, curry, or thomas on the floor - and other than the group that played in OT those were the only other 3 who entered the game.

spencer facilitated the winning 3 from DFS, so i think those calling it iso plays all ot are off a little bit, i think the plays were just run the clock then try to let dniwiddie make something happen in the last 3-5 seconds. not pure 'get out of his way' iso.

All things need to be put into context within the game and not what you want to nit pick.

Din had 11ast and 1 TO, 3 of those ast came late in OT that led to game winning buckets. We were the team on b2b.

Some here just doing bad job at trolling, plain simple.

[bwgood77]

Naz took 3 shot entire game and only made one of them at the buzzer. His only 3pt attempt. Of not for that lucky shot there's no OT, and yes they did good enough to win at regular time. Just one lucky shot that happened to go in, they fixed it in OT.

Watching tape is one thing. Actually coaching players you never had is another story.

Even die hard Bridges fan didn’t see this coming. He exceeding expectations right now. How many 30 games he had before coming here? How often he was playmaking? If anything JV/Kokoskov doing above average job right now.

More upset with Cam. His feel for the game is what keeps him on the bench. Yeah it takes time for scorers like him to develop and actually understand what's going on, but you'd think he can pick up pace with 2 years under him.

Cam J will get paid. Though he's a taller Joe Harris. If you ask him to do little extra, bad things happen consistently.

I always said I think Bridges had the potential to break out into a Paul George type of player, and maybe almost Kawhi lite. He has just been unleashed too. I think he will get better. But I was always probably Bridges' biggest fan.

Most Suns fans though thought that Cam Johnson had much more potential than Bridges offensively. He has had some pretty big offensive games.

Bridges was always super elite. He just only showed flashes of creating his own shot, but had increasingly shown more of it in the past year...and really started to break out when all of like the top 7 or 8 Suns playrs but him and Ayton were injured.

I will say I am surprised at how many trips he is making to the line in some games.

[bwgood77]

CamJ is choking in this game

I just don't know what he brings to the table. His 3 hasn't been falling. He is decent on defense, but this team already has a ton of wings who are just as good as him on that end.

He might easily end up as an overpay especially since he turned down a contract that's almost similar to Mikal.

I always thought he should get like 4/$60. It might be beneficial that he had an injury this year and isn't playing quite as well yet upon return to get a better contract if you keep him. There was rumor the Suns didn't extend him at what he wanted because they were a little worried about how injury prone he was. I think if he stays healthy he'd be worth a contract in the $15-$17 million per year range. I also think some team that needs shooting may want him and you could potentially work out a S&T and at least get something back, even if it's not much.

[GTR11]

Naz took 3 shot entire game and only made one of them at the buzzer. His only 3pt attempt. Of not for that lucky shot there's no OT, and yes they did good enough to win at regular time. Just one lucky shot that happened to go in, they fixed it in OT.

Watching tape is one thing. Actually coaching players you never had is another story.

Even die hard Bridges fan didn’t see this coming. He exceeding expectations right now. How many 30 games he had before coming here? How often he was playmaking? If anything JV/Kokoskov doing above average job right now.

More upset with Cam. His feel for the game is what keeps him on the bench. Yeah it takes time for scorers like him to develop and actually understand what's going on, but you'd think he can pick up pace with 2 years under him.

Cam J will get paid. Though he's a taller Joe Harris. If you ask him to do little extra, bad things happen consistently.

I always said I think Bridges had the potential to break out into a Paul George type of player, and maybe almost Kawhi lite. He has just been unleashed too. I think he will get better. But I was always probably Bridges' biggest fan.

Most Suns fans though thought that Cam Johnson had much more potential than Bridges offensively. He has had some pretty big offensive games.

Bridges was always super elite. He just only showed flashes of creating his own shot, but had increasingly shown more of it in the past year...and really started to break out when all of like the top 7 or 8 Suns playrs but him and Ayton were injured.

I will say I am surprised at how many trips he is making to the line in some games.

Says a lot about the coach you guys have.

[TheNetsFan]

I just don't know what he brings to the table. His 3 hasn't been falling. He is decent on defense, but this team already has a ton of wings who are just as good as him on that end.

He might easily end up as an overpay especially since he turned down a contract that's almost similar to Mikal.

I always thought he should get like 4/$60. It might be beneficial that he had an injury this year and isn't playing quite as well yet upon return to get a better contract if you keep him. There was rumor the Suns didn't extend him at what he wanted because they were a little worried about how injury prone he was. I think if he stays healthy he'd be worth a contract in the $15-$17 million per year range. I also think some team that needs shooting may want him and you could potentially work out a S&T and at least get something back, even if it's not much.

The Suns offered him 4/$72 and he turned it down.

[sashaturiaf]

We're lucky to win this game. Coaching has to improve, especially during end games

I disagree. I thought this was a brilliantly coached game by JV.

I know players execute, but when a game turns around so drastically in the third quarter, I always attribute that to a coaching staff divining at half time. And that has often been the case with this new team. I believe his substitutions in the whole game were perfect, as were the timeouts he saved until needed. Most importantly, what he did worked. We beat a good team, on the road, which had a center that neutralized one of our few strengths/players.

I know it's no surprise, but I also could not believe some criticisms of Dinwiddie after this game. Of our leading six guys, we had Clax, and four 3&D players with limited penetration abilities. The only two players in our starting lineup who can do anything with the ball in their hands are Mikal and Spencer. They also were, and are, our two best scorers and clutch performers IMO. Were it just Bridges we would encounter defenses like the Boston playoff series, where he would see even more intense coverage. Maybe I'm too old school, but I've never seen a really good player who could or should not ISO. It shouldn't be such a dirty word on this board.

Most of Dinwiddie's 29 points were in the second half when there was a more critical need. And there was a reason JV cut his rest time about 4 minutes to start the fourth quarter when our lead was vanishing. If you notice, in spite of Mikal's brilliance, JV is substituting Spencer almost exactly like he did KD. Dinwiddie has surpassed Ben's assists per game, and with remarkably few turnovers (and many more points). He had eleven assists tonight, which will probably bring him near 7 PG. When wondering about our ball movement, check how many everyone else gets, and whether he's dribbling because of a lack of movement, waiting for someone to get open, or come to the ball. In previous posts, I already addressed his usage rate and times of possession. When he is sitting our point guard situation, and usually the score, actually worsens. Also, watch closely during games to see how many assists are to Bridges and, contrary to popular opinion, how much Mikal actually controls the ball, particularly when he is on a points spree. There is a reason the two get the most minutes.

In summary, I believe JV and Spencer are good, and important factors with the team as currently structured. We seem to hate almost everyone lately. Of course I haven't had a home team for #^ years. There was no internet, so we loved our players, coaches, and even the owner, who had a popular bowling alley and bar. I remember my mother and sister even liking the worst, because they thought he was cute. All we had to bitch about in those olden days were the Celtics.

I did actually read your post. I do agree on one thing. The coaching staff did a good job making adjustments at half time. Or at least motivating the players to play better as I don’t think there were actually changes but more effort.

The rest is, well, not great. I do understand that players iso. But even with Irving it was mostly within the flow of the offense, the problem was spencer walked the ball up, dribbled at the top of the key for 15 seconds and then tried to make a move. For the last like five mins of the game. They acted like they were up by 20. And it didn’t stop when the wolves came back. You want him to iso fine. Get into a set. Run him off screens. Move the players around him and do it with 15-20 second on the clock and not 4-8. Every shot down the stretch was a desperation shot to beat the shot clock. For the last mins of the game. That’s the old way. That’s the bs harden way.

This game didn’t have to go into OT. He didn’t have to play Spencer and bridges 40 plus mins. He has other players. Other scorers that can contribute to a team. But he chooses to not play them. Only plays them out of desperation. He played cam for 6 mins and then never went back to him. 6 mins in which he basically had him stand in the corner. Come on.

They got lucky. Not a good win. And lucky one.

Dinwiddie is much more Harden than Kyrie with his ball dominance, only he doesn't have Harden's prodigious vision and playmaking ability. Mavs had Din in the right role as the 6th man, he should not be closing games as the lead ballhandler.

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Dinwiddie is much more Harden than Kyrie with his ball dominance, only he doesn't have Harden's prodigious vision and playmaking ability. Mavs had Din in the right role as the 6th man, he should not be closing games as the lead ballhandler.

should kind of has nothing to do with it - if not him then who else?

in the offseason 100% it's a spot they should look to upgrade, but they traded for dinwiddie to replace what they had in kyrie, and honestly kyrie's biggest weakness was the same as dinwiddie and maybe even worse in terms of playmaking, he was just a better pure scorer. with either of them the end of game was going to run through KD.

this year turned into a year to try to make chicken salad out of you know what, and honestly that's what they've done the last week. hats off to JV, marks nabbing bridges, and even dinwiddie for playing what i thought was his best game as a net probably ever. he made big plays on defense against edwards, he attacked the rim to both score and distribute, and ultimately made the plays in OT on the road to win the game.