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Post#621 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 4:34 pm

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Lets not start that please...Westbrook isn't going to come to the Nets.

You expect Griffin, Westbrook, Paul to stay in the West? You're competing against the Warriors AND Spurs? We're going to see these other western conference stars go elsewhere. In the East.


If I am a max player, and I want to get out of the west and go to a team that can have a chance to go to the finals, the last team I'm looking at is the Nets.




we will offer them a starting job though cause we desperate.
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Post#622 » by Paradise » Mon Jul 4, 2016 4:34 pm

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Lets not start that please...Westbrook isn't going to come to the Nets.

You expect Griffin, Westbrook, Paul to stay in the West? You're competing against the Warriors AND Spurs? We're going to see these other western conference stars go elsewhere. In the East.

I think players will want to leave the west but getting them to come to BK will be a tough sell. We should really hit that Westbrook campaign hard though.

I'm not doubting that but It's an easier sell with a developing culture and nucleus. Also, Durant has certainly made it a lot easier to pitch the concept of a super team once again.

I'm not saying we will land any of the next crop of free agents but most, if not all will be looking to come East.
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Post#623 » by therealbig3 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 4:51 pm

It doesn't affect the Nets whatsoever, but as a basketball fan, I'm disappointed in Durant.

Can anyone honestly say they'll be all that impressed if he goes on to win 2-3 titles with GS? They were capable of doing that before he even signed.
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Post#624 » by DarkXaero » Mon Jul 4, 2016 4:51 pm

We're using up our cap space, what are we going to sign these stars with?
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Post#625 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 5:40 pm

if we get crabbe, we will go small ball.
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Post#626 » by Claud » Mon Jul 4, 2016 6:06 pm

We should that money we offered to Crabbe for Ezeli IMO.
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Post#627 » by Dirk » Mon Jul 4, 2016 6:27 pm

Claud wrote:We should that money we offered to Crabbe for Ezeli IMO.

That only makes sense if you were trading Lopez.

Lopez and Ezeli can't play together. So you'd basicallybe paying 15 million to Ezeli, who would be playing 15-20 minutes a game.
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Post#628 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 6:30 pm

One player to keep an eye on at Brooklyn summer league: strong rebounder Egidijus Mockevicius
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Post#629 » by therealbig3 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 6:42 pm

Yeah, we need a PF, not a C.

And Ezeli isn't even that good.
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Post#630 » by KennyD » Mon Jul 4, 2016 8:04 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, we need a PF, not a C.

And Ezeli isn't even that good.

Meyer Leonard???
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Post#631 » by Claud » Mon Jul 4, 2016 8:19 pm

Brandon Jennings to the KNICKS.
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Post#632 » by Net Sentence » Mon Jul 4, 2016 8:26 pm

I really dont care for Crabbe. I feel like he is the type of player that you can find on the scrap heap. He was a 2nd rounder. I dont want to pay for a limited role player. Tyler Johnson makes sense because he creates his own offense, can drive and shoot. Crabbe cant handle the ball and his defense is overstated.
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Post#633 » by jbeachboy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 9:01 pm

im sure one of our d league shooters can do what crabbe does. we got some shooters on there.
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Post#634 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:56 pm

Net Sentence wrote:I really dont care for Crabbe. I feel like he is the type of player that you can find on the scrap heap. He was a 2nd rounder. I dont want to pay for a limited role player. Tyler Johnson makes sense because he creates his own offense, can drive and shoot. Crabbe cant handle the ball and his defense is overstated.

I'm kinda with you.

Having 3&D players is good but the few them retain their value over the years.

With the exception of Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leonard, how many of them have really expanded their games?

Crabbe cannot dribble. At best, he can be a slasher next season. And he doesn't even play defense that well.
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Post#635 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jul 4, 2016 11:24 pm

I'm pretty sure that the Nets are aware of his shortcomings and probably have a plan to develop him in areas of need.

I mean just going by how Kenny helped the pothers guys he coached
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Post#636 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jul 5, 2016 2:36 am

Crabbe actually reminds me some of a young Peja.

I don't know that he needs much of a handle to succeed, but he's probably better off as a 3 for the long term.
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Post#637 » by Paradise » Tue Jul 5, 2016 4:28 am

Net Sentence wrote:I really dont care for Crabbe. I feel like he is the type of player that you can find on the scrap heap. He was a 2nd rounder. I dont want to pay for a limited role player. Tyler Johnson makes sense because he creates his own offense, can drive and shoot. Crabbe cant handle the ball and his defense is overstated.

He's a 39% three point shooter and 85% free throw shooter. He's no scrap heap scrub that can be found anywhere else. He's been consistently improving his numbers. He's been in the league for 3 Years thus far so I don't see any reason for him not to improve here. Atkinson is looking for his own Kyle Korver.
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Post#638 » by Net Sentence » Tue Jul 5, 2016 11:56 am

Paradise wrote:
Net Sentence wrote:I really dont care for Crabbe. I feel like he is the type of player that you can find on the scrap heap. He was a 2nd rounder. I dont want to pay for a limited role player. Tyler Johnson makes sense because he creates his own offense, can drive and shoot. Crabbe cant handle the ball and his defense is overstated.

He's a 39% three point shooter and 85% free throw shooter. He's no scrap heap scrub that can be found anywhere else. He's been consistently improving his numbers. He's been in the league for 3 Years thus far so I don't see any reason for him not to improve here. Atkinson is looking for his own Kyle Korver.


He's a 2nd round pick and so was Korver. These guys always pop out of no where. He's a stationary 3pt shooter at that. We just drafted LeVert to be that guy anyway and we really dont need another wing unless we plan on trading Bogs.

I want Marks to go get the good Euro-Bigs, Jan Vesely and Anthony Randolph. I would be OK with this.

Lopez - Vesely - Hamilton
A Randolph - D Booker
RHJ - CMC
Bogs - LeVert - Markel
Lin - T Johnson - Whitehead
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Post#639 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:05 pm

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Net Sentence wrote:I really dont care for Crabbe. I feel like he is the type of player that you can find on the scrap heap. He was a 2nd rounder. I dont want to pay for a limited role player. Tyler Johnson makes sense because he creates his own offense, can drive and shoot. Crabbe cant handle the ball and his defense is overstated.

He's a 39% three point shooter and 85% free throw shooter. He's no scrap heap scrub that can be found anywhere else. He's been consistently improving his numbers. He's been in the league for 3 Years thus far so I don't see any reason for him not to improve here. Atkinson is looking for his own Kyle Korver.


He's a 2nd round pick and so was Korver. These guys always pop out of no where. He's a stationary 3pt shooter at that. We just drafted LeVert to be that guy anyway and we really dont need another wing unless we plan on trading Bogs.

I want Marks to go get the good Euro-Bigs, Jan Vesely and Anthony Randolph. I would be OK with this.

Lopez - Vesely - Hamilton
A Randolph - D Booker
RHJ - CMC
Bogs - LeVert - Markel
Lin - T Johnson - Whitehead

He can run off screens and slash without the ball well to boot.

He could surely become a vastly overpaid role player whose plateaued already, but he has the potential to be a deadly 3rd option type who pours in an effortless 18 a game without taking anyone out of their flow on a very small amount of shots.

I think he's a risk you have to take right now.
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Post#640 » by Net Sentence » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:23 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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Paradise wrote:He's a 39% three point shooter and 85% free throw shooter. He's no scrap heap scrub that can be found anywhere else. He's been consistently improving his numbers. He's been in the league for 3 Years thus far so I don't see any reason for him not to improve here. Atkinson is looking for his own Kyle Korver.


He's a 2nd round pick and so was Korver. These guys always pop out of no where. He's a stationary 3pt shooter at that. We just drafted LeVert to be that guy anyway and we really dont need another wing unless we plan on trading Bogs.

I want Marks to go get the good Euro-Bigs, Jan Vesely and Anthony Randolph. I would be OK with this.

Lopez - Vesely - Hamilton
A Randolph - D Booker
RHJ - CMC
Bogs - LeVert - Markel
Lin - T Johnson - Whitehead

He can run off screens and slash without the ball well to boot.


He's not that good off of screens though
.93 PPP
44.4% eFG
Top 52% in the NBA.

That's MEH.

vincecarter4pres wrote:He could surely become a vastly overpaid role player whose plateaued already, but he has the potential to be a deadly 3rd option type who pours in an effortless 18 a game without taking anyone out of their flow on a very small amount of shots.

I think he's a risk you have to take right now.


It's not a smart risk. For one, you dont know if you are even getting him. Secondly, you are going to have to massively overpay him to get him. Third, signing Crabbe to a big contract makes the Levert pick even more suspect. You dont bring in a young guy ahead of your #1 pick that you are high on. That is why it makes sense to bring in a guys like Randolph and Booker ahead of CMC. They are place holders who are easily pushed aside once your young guy is ready. If you get TJ and plan on building around RHJ and Levert on the wing, where does Crabbe fit in that plan? He just muddles the field.

I would rather have more quality size. Both Vesley and Randolph were big time prospects that took time to find their games. Lopez has been dealing with plantar fascititous so I would want someone who could start if he goes down.

Interesting fact, both Hamilton and Randolph are LSU alumni. I wonder if they are friendly.

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