Official 2019 Brooklyn Nets Offseason Thread

[MGrand15]

This off-season is a win-win to me. Absolute worst case scenario is we resign Russell, sign a good vet, bring back our guys from last year. I'd be thrilled.

If we bring Kyrie, whether Russell stays or not, that's an All-NBA type player coming over. He's much better than Russell. And while I don't like what he did in the locker room or the media, I don't think their culture is anything like ours. Our core may not be the most talented but you can't question their effort or their selflessness. I just don't see it being a problem if he chooses to come here.

Also, I really don't think we're so aggressive with that Crabbe move unless we're 99% sure a 2nd star is coming with Kyrie. I really feel like Durant is coming. It's the only thing that explains why Kyrie is dead set on coming here.

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[vincecarter4pres]

This off-season is a win-win to me. Absolute worst case scenario is we resign Russell, sign a good vet, bring back our guys from last year. I'd be thrilled.

If we bring Kyrie, whether Russell stays or not, that's an All-NBA type player coming over. He's much better than Russell. And while I don't like what he did in the locker room or the media, I don't think their culture is anything like ours. Our core may not be the most talented but you can't question their effort or their selflessness. I just don't see it being a problem if he chooses to come here.

Also, I really don't think we're so aggressive with that Crabbe move unless we're 99% sure a 2nd star is coming with Kyrie. I really feel like Durant is coming. It's the only thing that explains why Kyrie is dead set on coming here.

I think Durant was coming, then he blew out his Achilles and things may have changed, but the Crabbe trade was already done so there was no going back on it. So now we're kind of stuck in no man's land and things can backfire in a hurry.

[Rockice_24]

This off-season is a win-win to me. Absolute worst case scenario is we resign Russell, sign a good vet, bring back our guys from last year. I'd be thrilled.

If we bring Kyrie, whether Russell stays or not, that's an All-NBA type player coming over. He's much better than Russell. And while I don't like what he did in the locker room or the media, I don't think their culture is anything like ours. Our core may not be the most talented but you can't question their effort or their selflessness. I just don't see it being a problem if he chooses to come here.

Also, I really don't think we're so aggressive with that Crabbe move unless we're 99% sure a 2nd star is coming with Kyrie. I really feel like Durant is coming. It's the only thing that explains why Kyrie is dead set on coming here.

I think Durant was coming, then he blew out his Achilles and things may have changed, but the Crabbe trade was already done so there was no going back on it. So now we're kind of stuck in no man's land and things can backfire in a hurry.

If you thought he was coming then then he's coming now. As crazy as it is nothing really changed when KD went down.

I think it's either us or GS still. I think the injury actually may have helped us because I think he was going to NYK. Now that Zion and no other star is likely he won't want to go to a 17 win team in hopes they can build it up in 1 season since the Knicks have proven time and time again they can't.

KD wants to make sure LBJ doesn't get more rings as he is chasing him in the all time category. Either GS or BK with Kyrie gives him the best chance for that.

[Born_Ready]

I'mma switch gears and do some draft talk.

Any decent prospects with the pick they can pick up tomorrow night?

I like the Bol Bol kid. I know it's not really a need and I think he's gone by 27 but I wouldn't be mad if they drafted him.

Anyone have any guesses what they might/should do?

[Netaman]

I'mma switch gears and do some draft talk.

Any decent prospects with the pick they can pick up tomorrow night?

I like the Bol Bol kid. I know it's not really a need and I think he's gone by 27 but I wouldn't be mad if they drafted him.

Anyone have any guesses what they might/should do?

There are a TON of bigs / forward tweeners of varying skill + length and they are all kind of grouped together, falling anywhere from #10 to #30 in rankings/mocks.

The higher end guys who are mostly mocked in the lotto and invited to the green room are Rui Hachimura, Goga Bitadze, Brandon Clarke, Sekou Doumbouya, PJ Washington.

There's a cluster of guys not ranked too far off of those players who have been most commonly link to us that includes Grant Williams, Luka Saminic, Mfiondu Kabegele, Chuma Okeke, and Nic Claxton.

Those 10 bigs are generally mocked as half of the picks between pick #10-#30, but the order is pretty uncertain. Bol Bol and Cameron Johnson are both also in that range.

2 other high upside wings who have been linked to us in the last few days more and more are Bazley and Kevin Porter (the latter of whom is actually a green room invitee).

[IceManBK1]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

[Born_Ready]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

Solid post. With Mark's running the show scenarios such as this used to sound impossible, but with him anything is possible.

Having players like Randle and Capela is like getting a max player at half the cost. Make that ish happen.

[Born_Ready]

I'mma switch gears and do some draft talk.

Any decent prospects with the pick they can pick up tomorrow night?

I like the Bol Bol kid. I know it's not really a need and I think he's gone by 27 but I wouldn't be mad if they drafted him.

Anyone have any guesses what they might/should do?

There are a TON of bigs / forward tweeners of varying skill + length and they are all kind of grouped together, falling anywhere from #10 to #30 in rankings/mocks.

The higher end guys who are mostly mocked in the lotto and invited to the green room are Rui Hachimura, Goga Bitadze, Brandon Clarke, Sekou Doumbouya, PJ Washington.

There's a cluster of guys not ranked too far off of those players who have been most commonly link to us that includes Grant Williams, Luka Saminic, Mfiondu Kabegele, Chuma Okeke, and Nic Claxton.

Those 10 bigs are generally mocked as half of the picks between pick #10-#30, but the order is pretty uncertain. Bol Bol and Cameron Johnson are both also in that range.

2 other high upside wings who have been linked to us in the last few days more and more are Bazley and Kevin Porter (the latter of whom is actually a green room invitee).

Nice breakdown. Do you have an opinion on Carsen Edward's or Tyler Herro? Just curious. I think both are vastly underrated.

[IceManBK1]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

Solid post. With Mark's running the show scenarios such as this used to sound impossible, but with him anything is possible.

Having players like Randle and Capela is like getting a max player at half the cost. Make that ish happen.

we've been rumored to explore trading for capela. last yr we've been rumored to sign Randle too before he signed with NO. Our frontcourt would give us atleast 20 rebs/game. So our guards can chuck away. Randle isn't known as a defensive player. but he can hold his own against the strongest pfs in this league. That roster just gives us alot of interchangeability. Some ppl might not like it due to fits. But that's the correct way to build a deep roster.

[Netaman]

Nice breakdown. Do you have an opinion on Carsen Edward's or Tyler Herro? Just curious. I think both are vastly underrated.

There are guys I like more than each of them just because they each have sort of a narrow path to project to an NBA role. Edwards can score, but there aren't too many guys his size who make a living as bucket getters. Lou Williams?

Herro is like a very undercooked JJ Reddick if he had gone pro after 1 year. Almost entirely dependent on the elite shooting stroke translating. It very well could, but it may take time to get there.

At that point in the draft I'd be more inclined to go with Ty Jerome or Dylan Windler because I think they have more broad skill sets. Each has more length, has more of a track record, and has a definitive role in the NBA it's just a question of how far they can take it. Every draft pops a solid backup guard like VanVleet or Josh Hart in the 20's and Jerome fits right into that profile. Windler not only put up 2 elite shooting seasons but he's got almost a 7 foot wingspan.

Lu Dort from ASU is also interesting - guys who can carry that much weight (220 pounds) sometimes translate to the NBA really well.

[Papi_swav]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

Dude wtf is this ? hell no !!! We're on the fence to signing Kyrie and KD and we go to THIS ?! That would be a disaster and fail of an offseason.

[IceManBK1]

wonder if we can trade our 2nd rd to okc for their#21 pick since they're looking to shred salaries. then we package #21 and #27 to move up into the high teens. Maybe Hornets wanna deal with us? We were trading partners last yr.

[Prokorov]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

This would probably mean firing kenny and brining in a coaching staff with a completely different philosiphy, drastically chaning the culture of the team by moving out dinwiddie and removing big roles from some of the younger guys all while not getting better on the floor having a 35ish win floor and 50 ish win ceiling which is what we have now

id vomit if this happened

[MrDollarBills]

Hous trying to free up cap space to sign butler. trade Allen to Hous for Capela+Gordon+2 first rders to take on those guy's salary which add up to around 28 mil. Trade DW for High Teen pick. Use it to draft Hachimura/Brandon Clarke. Sign Julius Randle for 15-18 mil. Sign Dewayne Dedmon as stretch 5. We don't sign any max players. But we add 3 solid starters and positions of need.
Dlo/Levert
Gordon/Harris
Prince/Kurucs
Randle/Rui or Brandon Clarke
Capela/Dedmon

Dude wtf is this ? hell no !!! We're on the fence to signing Kyrie and KD and we go to THIS ?! That would be a disaster and fail of an offseason.

NBA2K trades.

10 more days and this stuff ends. thank the lord jesus christ of latter day saints

[NetsJets]

I’m cool on trading for Clint Capela and Eric Gordon. I’m down with signing Randle and Dedmon though.

[apaark]

For all those people who kept screaming that we gave up 2 FRP to dump Crabbe, here's the reality:

#17 = Prince
#31 = Claxton
Nets 2020 FRP = 76er 2020 FRP
#27 = TWO SRP (2019 and 2021)
Crabbe = cap space

Or you could look at it like #27 + Crabbe = 2 SRP + cap space

[Prokorov]

Kawhi is going to consider us in free agency:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254341/Kawhi-Leonard-May-Take-Free-Agent-Visits-With-Knicks-76ers-Nets

Kyrie + Kawhi would be the best offseason of all time

[MGrand15]

I don't think Kawhi is realistic at all. I'm not sure what the reasoning is but I think Woj is just floating this out there. Philly and NY too?? No way. Not a chance.

I think this is clearly Toronto vs LA.

[zimpy27]

Why not just run back the team and add Horford?

PG: Russell | Dinwiddie
SG: LeVert | Harris
SF: Carroll | Prince
PF: Horford | Kurucs
C: Allen | Davis

You would still have ~15m in cap space tp spend and a 5m MLE to spend. Bogdanovic and Seth Curry maybe

Considering how similar Nets play to Boston did prior to Kyrie, adding Horford (the centerpiece) of that type of ball sharing would be ideal IMO.