Around the NBA: 2021-22 Season Thread

[MrDollarBills]

Udoka was totally wrong and deserves to get his ass kicked for it but not punishing the women involved whatsoever is really ridiculous.

The only excuse not to punish any women involved is if they DID not work for the franchise whatsoever. Leaking it was a staff member was on the Celtics. It clearly wasn’t a staff remember and someone we ALL know’s wife.

^punishing a subordinate of Udoka's who reported sexual harassment is a surefire way for the Celtics to be sued into oblivion.

We don't have all the details, but irregardless of gender, in corporate power structures the onus will always fall on the person who has the higher authority. This is why ppl sleeping with people that report to them will get canned without question 9 out of 10 times. It's unethical and opens the door for abuse of power, i.e. if Udoka tried to coerce this woman to sleep with him after the fact by holding her position with the team hostage.

It's an ugly situation and I understand that it takes two to tango, but this was going to end badly for Udoka the moment he felt brazen enough to start f*cking around with women that work with him

[MrDollarBills]

Udoka was totally wrong and deserves to get his ass kicked for it but not punishing the women involved whatsoever is really ridiculous.

The only excuse not to punish any women involved is if they DID not work for the franchise whatsoever. Leaking it was a staff member was on the Celtics. It clearly wasn’t a staff remember and someone we ALL know’s wife.

It depends honestly. When you are in a position of power and use it to get sexual favors from those who are under you there really is no grounds for punishing the victim.

Now if somehow it's found that the victim[s] had colluded to entrap the abuser to then extort them then things would totally change and punishment would be justified. But so far there's nothing that would indicate that this is what happened.

Victim? She’s as guilty as he is. Again, you are running away from accountability on her and her role by cheating on her husband as equally as he cheated and abused his role.

I get it, she's trash, but if she's a subordinate of Udoka, the onus is on Udoka not to sleep with someone who works for him, for several reasons

Once she reported sexual harassment, Udoka was f*cked. He did this to himself

But I'm waiting to see what else happened because from what Matt Barnes says, the whole story is 100% worse.

[Paradise]

Udoka was totally wrong and deserves to get his ass kicked for it but not punishing the women involved whatsoever is really ridiculous.

The only excuse not to punish any women involved is if they DID not work for the franchise whatsoever. Leaking it was a staff member was on the Celtics. It clearly wasn’t a staff remember and someone we ALL know’s wife.

^punishing a subordinate of Udoka's who reported sexual harassment is a surefire way for the Celtics to be sued into oblivion.

We don't have all the details, but irregardless of gender, in corporate power structures the onus will always fall on the person who has the higher authority. This is why ppl sleeping with people that report to them will get canned without question 9 out of 10 times. It's unethical and opens the door for abuse of power, i.e. if Udoka tried to coerce this woman to sleep with him after the fact by holding her position with the team hostage.

It's an ugly situation and I understand that it takes two to tango, but this was going to end badly for Udoka the moment he felt brazen enough to start f*cking around with women that work with him

Again, this is going off of the reports it was a staff member. I don’t need Matt Barnes to tell me anything. What sources does he have? He got it wrong the first time.

She wouldn’t be ever suspended 1 season as a head coach if we reversed these gender roles and the GB has already admitted to believing she’s the victim here even if it was consensual and even the sex he knew better to accept it and let’s say reported her coming onto him at any point, she still wouldn’t have been disciplined.

She committed insubordination as an employee regardless. It was consensual and if she was NOT ever forced on her which is rape and blackmail…she willingly wanted the relationship which violated her job title.

What would make ANY wife apart of the organization want to cheat with him knowing he has a whole job title and fiancé…..CONSENSUALLY?

[therealbig3]

^The whole “but what about the woman???” vibe isn’t a good look man.

Also since we DON’T know the whole story and we DON’T know how she’s being punished behind the scenes. Udoka is the big name here, especially since his fiancé is also a very high profile celebrity, so obviously everyone is only going to be talking about him. We don’t know how the situation with the staff member is being handled.

But if true and the staffer claimed harassment, how are you going to punish her? She’s got an EXCELLENT case on her side here.

[Shark]

Udoka was totally wrong and deserves to get his ass kicked for it but not punishing the women involved whatsoever is really ridiculous.

The only excuse not to punish any women involved is if they DID not work for the franchise whatsoever. Leaking it was a staff member was on the Celtics. It clearly wasn’t a staff remember and someone we ALL know’s wife.

It depends honestly. When you are in a position of power and use it to get sexual favors from those who are under you there really is no grounds for punishing the victim.

Now if somehow it's found that the victim[s] had colluded to entrap the abuser to then extort them then things would totally change and punishment would be justified. But so far there's nothing that would indicate that this is what happened.

Victim? She’s as guilty as he is. Again, you are running away from accountability on her and her role by cheating on her husband as equally as he cheated and abused his role.

I'm speaking on general terms since the investigation is currently underway and we don't know all the details. But the details that have come out don't really paint a good picture for him.

If you want to make that argument on a moral basis, as it seemed to have been the basis for the initial punishment, sure. They both deserved to get punished for not following the franchis's guidelines.

But I think it changes if your talking about someone who may have used their position within the franchise to get sexual favors from an employee that is lower ranked than they are.

[MrDollarBills]

Udoka was totally wrong and deserves to get his ass kicked for it but not punishing the women involved whatsoever is really ridiculous.

The only excuse not to punish any women involved is if they DID not work for the franchise whatsoever. Leaking it was a staff member was on the Celtics. It clearly wasn’t a staff remember and someone we ALL know’s wife.

^punishing a subordinate of Udoka's who reported sexual harassment is a surefire way for the Celtics to be sued into oblivion.

We don't have all the details, but irregardless of gender, in corporate power structures the onus will always fall on the person who has the higher authority. This is why ppl sleeping with people that report to them will get canned without question 9 out of 10 times. It's unethical and opens the door for abuse of power, i.e. if Udoka tried to coerce this woman to sleep with him after the fact by holding her position with the team hostage.

It's an ugly situation and I understand that it takes two to tango, but this was going to end badly for Udoka the moment he felt brazen enough to start f*cking around with women that work with him

Again, this is going off of the reports it was a staff member. I don’t need Matt Barnes to tell me anything. What sources does he have? He got it wrong the first time.

She wouldn’t be ever suspended 1 season as a head coach if we reversed these gender roles and the GB has already admitted to believing she’s the victim here even if it was consensual and even the sex he knew better to accept it and let’s say reported her coming onto him at any point, she still wouldn’t have been disciplined.

She committed insubordination as an employee regardless. It was consensual and if she was NOT ever forced on her which is rape and blackmail…she willingly wanted the relationship which violated her job title.

What would make ANY wife apart of the organization want to cheat with him knowing he has a whole job title and fiancé…..CONSENSUALLY?

Where are your sources tho? Because you're calling for this woman to be punished when we really don't know just exactly what happened outside of Ime sleeping with her.

Let's let the facts come out. He willingly accepted his punishment. That to me says that there's more to this than just a consensual sexual relationship with a subordinate.

People are coming down hard on Ime because he slept with a subordinate and cheated on Nia Long, publicly humiliating her in the process. Of course no one is going to let up off of him. Regardless of the other woman's behavior, he is a piece of garbage. But we don't know much about the other woman involved here or what Ime is really being accused of in terms of wrong doing towards her.

There are lawyers involved. Her being punished for violating company policy is not happening at this point based on whatever may have happened that led to her filing claims of sexual harassment

[MrDollarBills]

^The whole “but what about the woman???” vibe isn’t a good look man.

Also since we DON’T know the whole story and we DON’T know how she’s being punished behind the scenes. Udoka is the big name here, especially since his fiancé is also a very high profile celebrity, so obviously everyone is only going to be talking about him. We don’t know how the situation with the staff member is being handled.

But if true and the staffer claimed harassment, how are you going to punish her? She’s got an EXCELLENT case on her side here.

Yep.

If she had ended their relationship, and he kept making advances after the fact and using his power over her to to try and coerce her, that is pretty serious sh*t Ime has gotten himself into.

I hope he stashed some money off shore, because between the lawsuit coming his way (if he did do this) and Nia Long probably about to take his ass to court regarding their child, he's done for.

[MrDollarBills]

The Celtics employee with whom Ime Udoka had an affair helped make all his travel arrangements ... and that job sometimes included organizing travel for his fiancee, Nia Long.

Sources connected to the couple and the NBA franchise tell TMZ ... one of the staffer's duties included planning Udoka's team-related travel, and we're told she was also involved in booking travel for Nia to come to Boston or to road games.

Perhaps most upsetting for Nia is that the employee had a hand in Nia's arrangements to move to Boston permanently, according to our sources.

The Celtics are not releasing the name of the employee, but we're told Nia has been told who she is

Both Ime and the employee are absolute scum.

This also confirms that Ime did wield authority over this person. If there's even worse details like ppl are alluding to, my god.