Kyrie Wants Out

[Slim Charless]

Suns are not doing very well though. And CP3 is old and broken down.

Sure KD's situation is not good either.

But I think its very possible Booker could want to go elsewhere. Especially to a bigger market.

Sure he could.

Like I said, anything is possible. I mean, it's possible that tomorrow Wilt Chamberlin, Pistol Pete and George Washington all rise from the dead and head down to Rucker Park to do a 3 on 3 battle for the street ball championship. It's all possible-in theory.

Ahh so you are just here to troll. Cool, won't engage anymore.

No, I came here to talk trades about players that are on the market (Simmons, who you should be lucky to get rid of). You responded with Booker demanding to go to Bed-Stuy. No one thinks that's gonna happen.

[Papi_swav]

this is a horrible move if done. FVV is having a bad season and hes small. Dinwiddie has size and averages about the same as FVV. And then to add draft picks too? that should get Marks fired if he does that. I'm only trading draft picks for players that moves the needle. If we want to make a trade with Toronto we should only be looking at Siakam or OG not light skin Drake

I agree.

If were adding somebody it needs to be somebody at the 3 or 4.

Like a Siakim or Lavine. Maybe even an OG.

The whole point of trading for value is you buy low and sell high. We had no choice with the Kyrie trade as we have to accept the highest bid.

Now FVV vs. Dinwiddie:
FVV's had a longer and more productive career up until this season. Dinwiddie is having his best season (at least in terms of offensive efficiency) If you look at their career advance stats, you can't tell me that Dinwiddie is a superior player. Yes, FVV's lack of size/defense probably narrows their talent gap, but I strongly disagree that Dinwiddie is a better player purely based on 40 games.

Even if FVV is the better player, the margin isn't that wide between both of them, certainly not to be giving up any picks. This trade wouldn't move the needle at all.

[Hello Brooklyn]

this is a horrible move if done. FVV is having a bad season and hes small. Dinwiddie has size and averages about the same as FVV. And then to add draft picks too? that should get Marks fired if he does that. I'm only trading draft picks for players that moves the needle. If we want to make a trade with Toronto we should only be looking at Siakam or OG not light skin Drake

I agree.

If were adding somebody it needs to be somebody at the 3 or 4.

Like a Siakim or Lavine. Maybe even an OG.

The whole point of trading for value is you buy low and sell high. We had no choice with the Kyrie trade as we have to accept the highest bid.

Now FVV vs. Dinwiddie:
FVV's had a longer and more productive career up until this season. Dinwiddie is having his best season (at least in terms of offensive efficiency) If you look at their career advance stats, you can't tell me that Dinwiddie is a superior player. Yes, FVV's lack of size/defense probably narrows their talent gap, but I strongly disagree that Dinwiddie is a better player purely based on 40 games.

I mean I'm not sure hes better. But if FVV is better its not by much.

And size just matters. I'd rather us shore up the defense then add a little more shooting which we already have.

[3pt_chucker]

Sure he could.

Like I said, anything is possible. I mean, it's possible that tomorrow Wilt Chamberlin, Pistol Pete and George Washington all rise from the dead and head down to Rucker Park to do a 3 on 3 battle for the street ball championship. It's all possible-in theory.

Ahh so you are just here to troll. Cool, won't engage anymore.

No, I came here to talk trades about players that are on the market (Simmons, who you should be lucky to get rid of). You responded with Booker demanding to go to Bed-Stuy. No one thinks that's gonna happen.

Show me where I said that??? My original post was me spitballing what Marks will/should do, not "OMG Booker to Nets OMG" like you keep trying to push. This may surprise you but GMs talk to each other all the time to see who may be available. If you think GMs aren't watching Booker when he has aging CP3, disgruntled Ayton as his running mate, you're in lala land. Obviously PHX will do whatever to keep him and he just signed a super max, so it's highly unlikely but not impossible since stars ask out all the damn time.

If you want to actually talk trades here and not troll please read posts correctly.

[MrDollarBills]

Giving up Din + picks for FVV is a garbage trade. If Marks does that he needs to be fired before he can do anything else.

Thankfully, he's not Billy King level, so not worried that would happen.

Houston has all of our picks so i wouldn't give him that much confidence

[MGrand15]

Why are we using Dinwiddie AND draft picks for FVV>? Isn't Dinwiddie already better than him by himself. This makes no sense and Marks better not do this trade.

It would be a very stupid move.

I like Dinwiddie better honestly.

I'd def take Dinwiddie over FVV.

FVV is a baller and a guy who hits big shots and always comes to play but he's small and inefficient. He's been inefficient regardless of role. He can't get to the rim. He's too small to really make a difference on defense. He's not a great playmaker.

I don't buy that we're trying to grab him unless he's packaged with OG or Siakam.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Well the trade is official.

Looks like Dinwiddie and DFS are likely here to stay.

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[therealbig3]

Giving up Din + picks for FVV is a garbage trade. If Marks does that he needs to be fired before he can do anything else.

Thankfully, he's not Billy King level, so not worried that would happen.

Houston has all of our picks so i wouldn't give him that much confidence

That’s not fair, that was for James Harden still in his prime, not Joe Johnson or washed up versions of Gerald Wallace, Paul Pierce, or Kevin Garnett.

Idk, I think there’s a ton of revisionist history with Marks. I think he’s been a great GM, it’s just that the big name guys he brought in messed things up for us. But anyone around the league would have gone all in for Kyrie, KD, and Harden. Injuries and Kyrie happened though.

[sashaturiaf]

Well the trade is official.

Looks like Dinwiddie and DFS are likely here to stay.

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Does this mean they can suit up for the Clippers game? Not sure if medicals have been taken already

[3pt_chucker]

Giving up Din + picks for FVV is a garbage trade. If Marks does that he needs to be fired before he can do anything else.

Thankfully, he's not Billy King level, so not worried that would happen.

Houston has all of our picks so i wouldn't give him that much confidence

Harden trade was a good move in my book. Can haggle it was an over pay but I still think it was the right move conceptually.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Giving up Din + picks for FVV is a garbage trade. If Marks does that he needs to be fired before he can do anything else.

Thankfully, he's not Billy King level, so not worried that would happen.

Houston has all of our picks so i wouldn't give him that much confidence

Harden trade was a good move in my book. Can haggle it was an over pay but I still think it was the right move conceptually.

Objectively it was a good move.

He was an extremely durable Superstar up to that point. The hamstring thing was bad luck.

You could argue the big mistake was not trading Kyrie sooner. Right when he didn't take the vaccine.

[MrDollarBills]

Houston has all of our picks so i wouldn't give him that much confidence

Harden trade was a good move in my book. Can haggle it was an over pay but I still think it was the right move conceptually.

Objectively it was a good move.

He was an extremely durable Superstar up to that point. The hamstring thing was bad luck.

You could argue the big mistake was not trading Kyrie sooner. Right when he didn't take the vaccine.

KD was still protecting Kyrie at that time.

Either way, we gave up too much for a fat slob rental. The trade was a disaster and the Simmons trade was just as bad.

[MrDollarBills]

Well the trade is official.

Looks like Dinwiddie and DFS are likely here to stay.

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Not a good sign imo. Means that Marks couldn't strike a deal with Toronto.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Harden trade was a good move in my book. Can haggle it was an over pay but I still think it was the right move conceptually.

Objectively it was a good move.

He was an extremely durable Superstar up to that point. The hamstring thing was bad luck.

You could argue the big mistake was not trading Kyrie sooner. Right when he didn't take the vaccine.

KD was still protecting Kyrie at that time.

Either way, we gave up too much for a fat slob rental. The trade was a disaster and the Simmons trade was just as bad.

This is all easy to say now. At the time Harden was an MVP level player. And he played like one his first year on the Nets.

The Simmons trade we basically had no choice. And nobody thought Simmons would somehow be worse than before.

No are they disasters in retrospect yes. But they made sense at the time for sure.

[therealbig3]

Yeah I mean, hindsight is 20/20. Nobody thought the Harden trade was a mistake when we dominated the competition and looked to be well on our way to an easy title before we got hurt.

Then it became a bunch of chemistry and personality issues, along with our regularly scheduled injuries, and things fell apart.

Yeah, obviously it was a disaster looking at it now, but at the time, literally everyone else around the league was afraid of us because of how good we were.

And yeah, our hand was forced with the Harden-Simmons trade.

[MrDollarBills]

We need to make a trade but i would not trade Cam or Claxton. The return has to be legit

[NyCeEvO]

Well the trade is official.

Looks like Dinwiddie and DFS are likely here to stay.

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Not a good sign imo. Means that Marks couldn't strike a deal with Toronto.

Not really.

If Dallas has little incentive to expand the deal, they could've put pressure on the Nets to make the trade official asap considering that Luka is injured and the Mavs couldn't play Dinwiddie or DFS while the trade is pending.

IMO, this only means that the Nets couldn't expand the deal in the window of time they've had since the trade was agreed to. I don't think it really means much in terms of whether or not the Nets could or can finalize a deal with Toronto.

[djsunyc]

Well the trade is official.

Looks like Dinwiddie and DFS are likely here to stay.

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Not a good sign imo. Means that Marks couldn't strike a deal with Toronto.

it just means they couldn't expand the deal.

nets and raptors can still make another deal with dinwiddie now. nets just can't trade dfs.

i still don't see a match between both teams where each team gets what they're looking for.

[djsunyc]

this guy called it a few days ago

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[JoseRizal]

We need to make a trade but i would not trade Cam or Claxton. The return has to be legit

I'm with you in this. We cannot afford to let go any semblance of future hope for the franchise without an assurance that KD will not demand a trade again next summer.