2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[Mkdaman1818]

What if the Nuggets sign MilLeap? They're going to then look for a PG. Maybe they'll package Chandler+ Faried+ Gary Harris to dump salary and sign Lowry.

Speaking of Lowry. If he leaves Toronto and Toronto goes young (like was being reported) is DeRozan available in a salary dump?

Someone will give up assets for derozan. I also think the nuggets might end up signing George hill if they get Millsap, don't think they'll be in cap hell, esp if they're not resigning dallo

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[Prokorov]

Pelicans are paying Holiday, Cousins, and Davis 65 million, and have a very poor wing rotation. They can one average wing making 11 mil a year for 2 average wings making a combined 3 mil. It does exactly for the pelicans as you would expect it to do. Cut salary.

I mean obviously it cuts salary, but what does it accomplish for them? they are already under the tax so thats not a consideration. does it get them under the cap? no it doesnt get them close to the being under the cap.

So basically they would be giving up a first round pick to save money that doesnt help them from a cap perspective and the hopes 2 average guys are better then one?

i cant see them giving a pick for so little

As for Crabbe being a catch and shoot player, I already talked about that. Please read my posts before commenting on them ffs

i do read them. its just alot of what you write doesnt make any sense. like when i asked for your take on what you would do with RHJ/Levert/Dlo when they are due extensions/become RFA and you said you responed to it already but you actually didnt beyond saying "thats marks problem"

[Prokorov]

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I'd absolutely love this. i would like this move even without a pick attached to it. great short term vet/mentor and great fit on the floor.

if we can get an asset even better

[Mkdaman1818]

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I'd absolutely love this. i would like this move even without a pick attached to it. great short term vet/mentor and great fit on the floor.

if we can get an asset even better

Right there with you - maybe Carroll, first rounder and Powell/OG Anunoby for Nicholson?

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[Prokorov]

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I'd absolutely love this. i would like this move even without a pick attached to it. great short term vet/mentor and great fit on the floor.

if we can get an asset even better

Right there with you - maybe Carroll, first rounder and Powell/OG Anunoby for Nicholson?

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oh damn they have OG? id love that

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[Ror1997]

Pelicans are paying Holiday, Cousins, and Davis 65 million, and have a very poor wing rotation. They can one average wing making 11 mil a year for 2 average wings making a combined 3 mil. It does exactly for the pelicans as you would expect it to do. Cut salary.

I mean obviously it cuts salary, but what does it accomplish for them? they are already under the tax so thats not a consideration. does it get them under the cap? no it doesnt get them close to the being under the cap.

So basically they would be giving up a first round pick to save money that doesnt help them from a cap perspective and the hopes 2 average guys are better then one?

i cant see them giving a pick for so little

As for Crabbe being a catch and shoot player, I already talked about that. Please read my posts before commenting on them ffs

i do read them. its just alot of what you write doesnt make any sense. like when i asked for your take on what you would do with RHJ/Levert/Dlo when they are due extensions/become RFA and you said you responed to it already but you actually didnt beyond saying "thats marks problem"

It's not that they don't make any sense it's that you can't follow a train of thought. You can count to 3, but when you get to 4 you forgot what happened before 2, and then you just say nothing makes sense.

And you don't read my posts. You skim through them or read the first sentence of them and assume you know what my post is about. You're in your own world. Just please stop responding to my posts. You think you know everything, yet you never have any clue what people are talking about. Just **** off.

[Mosdefinition]

What if the Nuggets sign Millsap? They're going to then look for a PG. Maybe they'll package Chandler+ Faried+ Gary Harris to dump salary and sign Lowry.

Speaking of Lowry. If he leaves Toronto and Toronto goes young (like was being reported) is DeRozan available in a salary dump?

I don't think we have enough to get DeRozan

Unless we give up the 2020 first (I know trading picks and year after we get back control) some combo of caris rhj and allen which is do in a second I went to the billy King school of making deals I think lol

[MGrand15]

Wouldn't mind Gallo at all on a 2 year deal. It's a gamble on his health but he's really talented and can play the 4. When he played, he was great last year.

whats the upside with him? he plays 60 games and we win 33 games instead of 29?

super hard pass on gallo unless he basically comes for peanuts

It's a gamble. Thats the only reason we have a chance at someone of his talent level. He could play 70 games and give us high level production at a position of need. Our performance team might be just what he needs. Not likely but possible.

I don't really care about wins and losses. I care about surrounding our core guys with actual players so we can see them in their ideal role. Having a near elite shooter at the 4 is awesome for Lin, Russell, and LeVert. Letting RHJ play backup 3/4 minutes and possibly spot start is good for his development. He would give Allen more room for lobs and finishes inside.

It's harder to evaluate guys if you're forcing them to take on more than theyre ready for and if the spacing isn't great.

[Vae Victus]

Demarre Carrol is a husk of his former self. He's been heavily deterioting since he left ATL and hasnt played anywhere near the value of his contract.

He's a pure salary dump and not a real asset to this team. If he cant be an assest in TOR what makes you think he'll provide positive value here?

TOR needs to attach a pick for some team to eat his deal outright. Or if the Nets want to be clever offer up Nicolson and also demand a pick. TOR saves about 8-9 mi a year for the next 2, to let them go chasing FAs if they so desire. If TOR goes full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) like the LAL, try to take advantage of it.

[Ror1997]

What if the Nuggets sign Millsap? They're going to then look for a PG. Maybe they'll package Chandler+ Faried+ Gary Harris to dump salary and sign Lowry.

Speaking of Lowry. If he leaves Toronto and Toronto goes young (like was being reported) is DeRozan available in a salary dump?

I don't think we have enough to get DeRozan

Unless we give up the 2020 first (I know trading picks and year after we get back control) some combo of caris rhj and allen which is do in a second I went to the billy King school of making deals I think lol

I wouldn't give up an asset for DeRozan. DeRozan is a good player but that's a huge contract

[13th Man]

Yep, I'm liking this. Try to get Carroll plus a pick and offload Nicholson, that'd be sweet! We could use Norman Powell but I don't think the Raptors would give him up.

[Mkdaman1818]

Yep, I'm liking this. Try to get Carroll plus a pick and offload Nicholson, that'd be sweet! We could use Norman Powell but I don't think the Raptors would give him up.

If this paves the way to resign Lowry, then yeah I think they consider it. We might have to give up Harris or something but I'd still do it

[Prokorov]

It's not that they don't make any sense it's that you can't follow a train of thought. You can count to 3, but when you get to 4 you forgot what happened before 2, and then you just say nothing makes sense.

Sorry if you cant comprehend a graphic showing our cap situation after next season. i tried words and pictures for you... not sure how else to get basic points across to you.

And you don't read my posts. You skim through them or read the first sentence of them and assume you know what my post is about. You're in your own world. Just please stop responding to my posts. You think you know everything, yet you never have any clue what people are talking about. Just **** off.

Nah im good ill keep doing me. its a nets board so ill continue to respond to nets topics. but thanks for the suggestion.

as far as this topic... not sure what is so hard to follow:

-you suggested they give us a first for a salary dump
-the dump would not effect them with regards to the tax
-the dump would not effect their cap situation

Unless you think they would part with a first just to turn solomon hill into 2 similar guys? if thats what youre saying then yea... your right i dont understand because that would make 0 sense for the pelicans

[Mosdefinition]

Yep, I'm liking this. Try to get Carroll plus a pick and offload Nicholson, that'd be sweet! We could use Norman Powell but I don't think the Raptors would give him up.

If this paves the way to resign Lowry, then yeah I think they consider it. We might have to give up Harris or something but I'd still do it

Harris is a borderline nba player

[Mosdefinition]

What if the Nuggets sign Millsap? They're going to then look for a PG. Maybe they'll package Chandler+ Faried+ Gary Harris to dump salary and sign Lowry.

Speaking of Lowry. If he leaves Toronto and Toronto goes young (like was being reported) is DeRozan available in a salary dump?

I don't think we have enough to get DeRozan

Unless we give up the 2020 first (I know trading picks and year after we get back control) some combo of caris rhj and allen which is do in a second I went to the billy King school of making deals I think lol

I wouldn't give up an asset for DeRozan. DeRozan is a good player but that's a huge contract

I feel like he's a piercesque kind of player who in a few years could entice people to come to Brooklyn

[Prokorov]

Demarre Carrol is a husk of his former self. He's been heavily deterioting since he left ATL and hasnt played anywhere near the value of his contract.

He's a pure salary dump and not a real asset to this team. If he cant be an assest in TOR what makes you think he'll provide positive value here?

TOR needs to attach a pick for some team to eat his deal outright. Or if the Nets want to be clever offer up Nicolson and also demand a pick. TOR saves about 8-9 mi a year for the next 2, to let them go chasing FAs if they so desire. If TOR goes full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) like the LAL, try to take advantage of it.

he is a bad fit in toronto. he would be in the same offense he was in atlanta with the nets. im pretty confident he would bounce back close to what he was.

[Prokorov]

I don't think we have enough to get DeRozan

Unless we give up the 2020 first (I know trading picks and year after we get back control) some combo of caris rhj and allen which is do in a second I went to the billy King school of making deals I think lol

I wouldn't give up an asset for DeRozan. DeRozan is a good player but that's a huge contract

I feel like he's a piercesque kind of player who in a few years could entice people to come to Brooklyn

i dont know if we would have interest in derozan but he for sure would have positive value around the league.

he is a 27 year old who dropped 27/5/4 on 24 PEr/55TS%

he isnt a superstar but he is right there in that next tier of perrenial all stars and is still just at the beggining of his prime

[imanshar]

If we get Carroll our 1,2,3 rotation is set and then we only have to worry about couple of bigs. Atkinson knows Caroll and has helped develop him. It is an amazing fit.