mcscotty wrote:You're all saying I'm ignoring the facts. What facts has anyone brought up? Show me the facts? Anyway, I don't want to have arguments with people that resort to calling me a "moron"or "twat". It's clear I'm dealing with the lowest common denominator. I'll just break out the popcorn and enjoy the show. You'll all come around to my views in short order.
1) i did not call you any of those names. I do not condone that. I will say you set yourself up for an abrasive response when you go to another teams forum and baselessly trash their best player and dont back it up with any facts
2) Why do we have to show you the facts? you are the one coming here making the claims. shouldnt the burden be with you? But, since I always bring the facts:
Nets with irving on the floor and on/off
117 points per 100 possessions (101 points per possession without)
+6.4 BPM (more then twice the next net, one of only 3 nets in the positive. dinwiddie is -0.7)
Kyrie is better then diniwiddine in:
points, assists,rebounds, FG%, 3PT% FT% PER, TS%
beyond that he also has a better BPM, VORP, RPM, and win shares
there is not a single metric that shows dinwiddie has helped the team more then kyrie... there isntone that shows its even remotely close.
It is awesome the nets have won 5 of their last 6. it helps that we have played the worst teams in the NBA for 4 of those wins. our bench absolutely KILLED us the first 2 weeks of the season, Kyrie played like an MVP while the bench blew lead after lead. he setup the game winning bucket for allen vs. minny and he missed both FTs. he got 2 huge steals on morant and dinwiddie missed the FTS that allowed the crowder game winning 3.
as far as hero ball, diniwddie has more FGA in isolation than kyrie does. kyrie has more possesions in the pick and roll then dinwiddie does