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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#681 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:41 pm

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Whoa...cool it, man. It's a frickin' basketball game.

Was coming here to wish you guys well and congratulate you on a hard-fought series, but I see emotions are still running high for some.


People come here to talk **** to us after a loss. What do you expect, for me to say "aw shucks haha you sure got us with that one"?

This entire series you've had clowns coming on here trying to kick us while we were down after Kyrie got hurt. Of course I'm going to fight fire with fire.

you and aII nets fans shouId be reaIIy proud of how your team competed. it was eyeopening. duranst stock is up. harden was a warrior. bIake fought and showed he has something Ieft in the tank. i dont think theres any need to fight anything with fire from the fans who come here to be bums. your team gave you more than ampIe ammunition to stay on the high ground and aIot of the bIech your going to read is fear that this team is going to stand in the way of other good teams getting to the mountaintop for years to come. practicaIIy the onIy thing that stands in your way is bad breaks and injuries maybe age and the saIary cap. every other franchise besides maybe the Iakers have far more hurdIes than that.
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Post#682 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:45 pm

DarkXaero wrote:The more I think about it, the better I think it is that we lost last night. Now I don't want anyone here to misunderstand me, it still **** sucks that we got injuries in 1 playoffs round that ruined our season. But when you look at the reality of things in light of those injuries, we would have been delaying the inevitable at a very high cost potentially. Harden said after the game last night that he essentially has a grade 2 hamstring strain. Kyrie was at the game last night and he could barely walk properly (there's a clip floating around on twitter of him walking around).

So even if we got through this game 7 and made it to conference finals, we would have this version of Harden playing on grade 2 hamstring strain, and Kyrie being rushed back from what looks like at least a grade 2 ankle sprain. And then you add KD who was at risk for injury with all the heavy minutes and responsibilities on him. It could have been a recipe for disaster in the conference finals where those injuries/situation could get much worse long term, and you still lose in the end. So in that sense, it's better that we lose now and get it over with, without any further injuries. Our season was over the moment Harden pulled his hamstring in game 1, and then Kyrie landing on Giannis foot, we just didn't fully grasp it in that moment. I'm still deeply upset over the injuries, and there's no question that we still lost a very valuable year of our title window. But losing last night in light of the injury situation, it's not that bad.



I agree. I actually said after Game 5 that we were done for because of how bad the situation was, even if we did win last night, this wasn't sustainable.

Had Kyrie not been injured, we could have powered through. But that was the end right there. I got to give everyone their props for fighting til the end, but essentially, we are better off long term bowing out here and escaping without a Durant injury and further damage to Harden's leg.

Year 2 of the Big 3 will be much better. A better roster around them, an actual training camp for Harden, and hopefully a good place in place to get them to the playoffs healthy.
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Yo Rich are you going to do your job and moderate or just close everyone's reports and do nothing? Ban me if you want but it's being discussed on other boards that this one poster in particular is making your fanbase look like clowns

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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#684 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:52 pm

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Whoa...cool it, man. It's a frickin' basketball game.

Was coming here to wish you guys well and congratulate you on a hard-fought series, but I see emotions are still running high for some.


People come here to talk **** to us after a loss. What do you expect, for me to say "aw shucks haha you sure got us with that one"?

This entire series you've had clowns coming on here trying to kick us while we were down after Kyrie got hurt. Of course I'm going to fight fire with fire.

you and aII nets fans shouId be reaIIy proud of how your team competed. it was eyeopening. duranst stock is up. harden was a warrior. bIake fought and showed he has something Ieft in the tank. i dont think theres any need to fight anything with fire from the fans who come here to be bums. your team gave you more than ampIe ammunition to stay on the high ground and aIot of the bIech your going to read is fear that this team is going to stand in the way of other good teams getting to the mountaintop for years to come. practicaIIy the onIy thing that stands in your way is bad breaks and injuries maybe age and the saIary cap. every other franchise besides maybe the Iakers have far more hurdIes than that.


I feel you, I really do but we have endured years of trolling, abuse and mockery on here from certain fanbases. Other fans here will tell you, during our worst days they would come here and kick us while we were down, and wish injuries on our players so that their draft picks would be higher.

I'm proud of the team and I can't wait for next season, but I'll gladly fight dirty and do them like they do us.
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Post#685 » by HardenGoat » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:53 pm

Why waste time with haters. Some of them act like children the way they burp out media fueled narratives. It isn’t worth it to stoop to their level. Losing this way actually fuels our team to improve and gives us confidence we are the better team being down two of our best players. There’s actually no doubt, anyone with half a brain knows it. The only thing left now is dealing with the haters of a super team. We are branded as a super team, and we will be hated on as a super team. I accept that. I don’t really care. In my view we have really good players and proved we could become much better on defense and build chemistry this year despite the injuries and roster changes. We also have some changes to make, and we need to keep our core together that got us here. Very bright future and the win will be so much sweeter actually. Peace out, haters included. :peace:
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Re: Bucks @ Nets: Game 7 - Sat. June 19 @ 8:30 PM - TNT 

Post#686 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:57 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:soIid points on kyries defense. just throwing it out there from a bucks fans perspective. i thought the series was over when he went down and it wasnt thanks to durants extra usage and efficiency with it........but to the other point.....we were Ieading game 4 in our home gym with the crowd roaring after a 14-2 run to take back the sIow start. we'd aIready proven we couId win the game before. your boards narrative that the series was going to be some cakewaIk if kyrie doesnt go down had aIready been erased. of course we couId have Iost that game......but at home with the Iead and momentum any metric says the bucks winning game 4 was by far the most IikeIy outcome.


I don't think it would be a cake walk, but acting like Kyrie wouldn't make a huge difference especially offensively is not being honest.
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Post#687 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:40 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:soIid points on kyries defense. just throwing it out there from a bucks fans perspective. i thought the series was over when he went down and it wasnt thanks to durants extra usage and efficiency with it........but to the other point.....we were Ieading game 4 in our home gym with the crowd roaring after a 14-2 run to take back the sIow start. we'd aIready proven we couId win the game before. your boards narrative that the series was going to be some cakewaIk if kyrie doesnt go down had aIready been erased. of course we couId have Iost that game......but at home with the Iead and momentum any metric says the bucks winning game 4 was by far the most IikeIy outcome.


I don't think it would be a cake walk, but acting like Kyrie wouldn't make a huge difference especially offensively is not being honest.
Normally I'd say of course you're right....bit what Durant did subsequently became legend whether its ever appreciated that way or not. It's not something I automatically assume would have been duplicated if kyrie had been sharing scoring duties. It may not have been a compliment out there at all.

All I'm saying is there were times I found myself wishing somebody else was going to try and do us besides Durant and we've had a lot if success with kyrie in the past.

Purpose is simply fun discussion. Durant went supernova in two games. It changed how I will view and remember him forever. Next time we play it will be nice to see kyrie try his thing and Durant take some plays off :lol:
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Post#688 » by sewko » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:21 pm

I wish Kyrie was still a Celtic.
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Post#689 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:36 pm

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Rich Rane wrote:Joe Harris, a basketball player making an average of $18,750,00 a year mainly because of his 3-point shooting, should be able to shoot the 3 consistently. Steve Nash is not a good coach. Both statements can be true.


Perfectly said. I believe not having Harden at full strength was the most damaging issue as that we are a vastly better team running through him than anyone else. Ball movement goes to hell without his drives. After that? Nash having zero ability to adjust in games or really any sense of a play book whatsoever, then the inexplicable Harris slump. And its not just his missed 3's. Also bad defense, constantly falling for those Middleton pump fakes, and I have never seen someone miss easy lay ups as often as he does inside at this level. The percentages within 5 feet might justify him driving, but he simply blows LAYUPS. Just can't defend him or Nash whatsoever.
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Post#690 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:49 pm

LiquidSnakeOmen wrote:I said this in the general board but the pivotal moment of the game was Lopez blocking Durant and Harris missing a wide open 3.

If Harris hit this three, then I doubt people would care about Nash's coaching decisions, Sean Marks' acquisitions, the lack of bench play in game 7, or even Harris' struggles.

Harris had the game in his hand with under a minute left and missed.

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Without question this was the moment that defined the game and will stay with us for years. As awful as he had been, you don't get a better look, feet set, perfect spot than this shot.
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Post#691 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:56 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:soIid points on kyries defense. just throwing it out there from a bucks fans perspective. i thought the series was over when he went down and it wasnt thanks to durants extra usage and efficiency with it........but to the other point.....we were Ieading game 4 in our home gym with the crowd roaring after a 14-2 run to take back the sIow start. we'd aIready proven we couId win the game before. your boards narrative that the series was going to be some cakewaIk if kyrie doesnt go down had aIready been erased. of course we couId have Iost that game......but at home with the Iead and momentum any metric says the bucks winning game 4 was by far the most IikeIy outcome.


I don't think it would be a cake walk, but acting like Kyrie wouldn't make a huge difference especially offensively is not being honest.
Normally I'd say of course you're right....bit what Durant did subsequently became legend whether its ever appreciated that way or not. It's not something I automatically assume would have been duplicated if kyrie had been sharing scoring duties. It may not have been a compliment out there at all.

All I'm saying is there were times I found myself wishing somebody else was going to try and do us besides Durant and we've had a lot if success with kyrie in the past.

Purpose is simply fun discussion. Durant went supernova in two games. It changed how I will view and remember him forever. Next time we play it will be nice to see kyrie try his thing and Durant take some plays off :lol:


I would have preferred Durant not have to do all of that stuff tbh...dude was done for by the end of OT. I felt bad for him because he gave everything he had and it wasn't enough.

But yeah no hard feelings man. I look forward to the rematch, hopefully everyone stays healthy so we can really see what's what lol
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Post#692 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:57 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:soIid points on kyries defense. just throwing it out there from a bucks fans perspective. i thought the series was over when he went down and it wasnt thanks to durants extra usage and efficiency with it........but to the other point.....we were Ieading game 4 in our home gym with the crowd roaring after a 14-2 run to take back the sIow start. we'd aIready proven we couId win the game before. your boards narrative that the series was going to be some cakewaIk if kyrie doesnt go down had aIready been erased. of course we couId have Iost that game......but at home with the Iead and momentum any metric says the bucks winning game 4 was by far the most IikeIy outcome.


I don't think it would be a cake walk, but acting like Kyrie wouldn't make a huge difference especially offensively is not being honest.
Normally I'd say of course you're right....bit what Durant did subsequently became legend whether its ever appreciated that way or not. It's not something I automatically assume would have been duplicated if kyrie had been sharing scoring duties. It may not have been a compliment out there at all.

All I'm saying is there were times I found myself wishing somebody else was going to try and do us besides Durant and we've had a lot if success with kyrie in the past.

Purpose is simply fun discussion. Durant went supernova in two games. It changed how I will view and remember him forever. Next time we play it will be nice to see kyrie try his thing and Durant take some plays off :lol:


You guys can say what you want. I don't think we lose Game 4 with Kyrie. You had just finished a run and we were about to punch back.

Even if you win Game 4 I don't think there is any shot you win a Game 7 with Kyrie. KD needed the slightest bit of help from anyone.

With Harden its likely a 5 game series.
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Post#693 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:59 pm

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Rich Rane wrote:Joe Harris, a basketball player making an average of $18,750,00 a year mainly because of his 3-point shooting, should be able to shoot the 3 consistently. Steve Nash is not a good coach. Both statements can be true.


Perfectly said. I believe not having Harden at full strength was the most damaging issue as that we are a vastly better team running through him than anyone else. Ball movement goes to hell without his drives. After that? Nash having zero ability to adjust in games or really any sense of a play book whatsoever, then the inexplicable Harris slump. And its not just his missed 3's. Also bad defense, constantly falling for those Middleton pump fakes, and I have never seen someone miss easy lay ups as often as he does inside at this level. The percentages within 5 feet might justify him driving, but he simply blows LAYUPS. Just can't defend him or Nash whatsoever.


The insane part is, Joe was known for being an adept finisher. Everything good that Joe brought to the table went out the window.

His deficiency in the playoffs is 100% mental. I would definitely think if you're the Nets you ask him to sit down with the team's sports psychologist to talk this offseason.
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Post#694 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:09 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I expect Marks to reshape this roster around the Big 3 in a much better fashion this summer. We need depth at PG, a wing defender, and another big man. Jordan has to go. I would hope we can retain Green, Blake, and Brown.

If Joe gets shipped out I'm fine with that. I'm fine if we keep him as well. But he let the team down on both ends and it will take a lot to repair that trust.

Nash is a terrible coach, but I thought for a game 7 he made the right moves in terms of our offensive strategy and defensively. We just ran out of gas. That being said, Marks needs to think long and hard about giving this guy the keys to this ship again.

I have no respect for Giannis. None. He's a dirty player and if he gets injured in the next round I will be glad. **** him.


Jeff, Brown, Blake, Clax, Alize - stay

The rest I'm either indifferent about (the guys on or near the min or rookie contracts) or have to go, given the tax situation were in we cant be affording to be hard capping ourselves over Joe and DJ who gives us nothing in the postseason.


Yep I'm with you on this. Those 5 are good pieces along with the Big 3. We need to add more veteran depth at PG, wing, and C.


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Post#695 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:24 pm

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Go back to the Bucks board and cry about me being mean, idgaf. I hope his leg snaps in two :lol:
You need to chill out dude. Saying edgy **** just for the sake of saying it does not make you or this fanbase look any good. It's a bad reflection on all of us, and then you've got other teams' fans lurking here and saying this is the way we act on GB. Wishing injuries on a player (even if you don't mean it) is a low no fan should ever cross.


I don't really care that Knicks and Bucks fans are angry to be honest, I intentionally said it to trigger these same lurking fans watching our board who laugh and make jokes about Kyrie being hurt on their own boards (I'm serious, go check out their threads...you had Knick fans clowning when Kyrie got hurt, making jokes about Harden's hamstring, now all of a sudden these dickheads have a moral compass :lol: ). It worked, and now they're furious over it. What's the problem? I think it's hilarious ngl :lol:

And dude, they talk down on us Net fans all the time regardless. I read what they say on the GB and their own boards. They talk trash about us non stop. One day you're going to realize that tip toeing and being polite to these pompous ass holes isn't going to make a difference one way or another. Who cares what they think.

Of course I don't mean any of that stuff, I know Giannis' dumb ass didn't mean to hurt Kyrie intentionally. Doesn't mean that I can't use that to piss off people taking delight in our misfortune. Believe me, I got a good laugh out of how angry and upset Bucks and Knicks fans are over what I said. I didn't go to their boards to say anything, I said it here, and they're all now on their own boards and the GB besides themselves. Good.

And this is a website where dudes regularly express racism, misogyny, and homophobia with impunity. I remember that there was a dude on the GB literally calling for Jews to be exterminated. Compared to that crap, I don't think it's low at all, regardless if I mean it or not. "Wishing" injury on a player...who cares. Nothing I say will impact Giannis' life. You think these same Bucks fans you're worried about who want to make blanket generalizations about us based off of stuff I've said really feel bad about what Giannis did to Kyrie unintentionally or not? They don't. They are all happy that things played out this way. They don't feel bad. And neither should you.



Lol. Compared to some of the stuff said back in the day? Lmfao. But you know...not me. I was always a Saint!
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Post#696 » by enetric » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:43 pm

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Perfectly said. I believe not having Harden at full strength was the most damaging issue as that we are a vastly better team running through him than anyone else. Ball movement goes to hell without his drives. After that? Nash having zero ability to adjust in games or really any sense of a play book whatsoever, then the inexplicable Harris slump. And its not just his missed 3's. Also bad defense, constantly falling for those Middleton pump fakes, and I have never seen someone miss easy lay ups as often as he does inside at this level. The percentages within 5 feet might justify him driving, but he simply blows LAYUPS. Just can't defend him or Nash whatsoever.


The insane part is, Joe was known for being an adept finisher. Everything good that Joe brought to the table went out the window.

His deficiency in the playoffs is 100% mental. I would definitely think if you're the Nets you ask him to sit down with the team's sports psychologist to talk this offseason.

I agree this was mental. It just kept getting worse for him and he couldn't shake it. We saw all year how much better he was than this. But, I will stick to one thing. Even with strong percentages for finishing unexpected drives...he also blows layups that are mind boggling. Its not just about percentage made...its how BAD some of those misses are. And when he gets blocked a couple of times he will lose his nerve. He will still drive, but as soon as someone slides over to cover he will simply continue baseline, go all the way through, drive back outside and hand it to someone else with a spent shot clock. You can't do that. He has to drive with intent and if he gets the defender to come over either learn how to draw contact or, make the pass on the drive. Not come all the way back out. It's a fundamental flaw in his game that can be worked on.
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Post#697 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:11 am

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Jeff, Brown, Blake, Clax, Alize - stay

The rest I'm either indifferent about (the guys on or near the min or rookie contracts) or have to go, given the tax situation were in we cant be affording to be hard capping ourselves over Joe and DJ who gives us nothing in the postseason.


Yep I'm with you on this. Those 5 are good pieces along with the Big 3. We need to add more veteran depth at PG, wing, and C.


Thoughts on Spencer?


The open market will dictate that question I think. I would love to have him back but he most likely wants his big payday and that has luxury tax implications...plus, I think keeping Blake, Green, and Brown are more of a necessity right now
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Post#698 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:13 am

I'm hearing word that KD wants to play in Tokyo. I'm not a fan of this at all, not after what he went through these last two weeks
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Yep I'm with you on this. Those 5 are good pieces along with the Big 3. We need to add more veteran depth at PG, wing, and C.


Thoughts on Spencer?


The open market will dictate that question I think. I would love to have him back but he most likely wants his big payday and that has luxury tax implications...plus, I think keeping Blake, Green, and Brown are more of a necessity right now

We can find another Bruce Brown it’s tougher to find a guy like Dinwiddie. Alize could fill Brown’s role.
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Post#700 » by Rich Rane » Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:25 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I'm hearing word that KD wants to play in Tokyo. I'm not a fan of this at all, not after what he went through these last two weeks


Recruitment? 8-)

I mean, yeah I admire the love for basketball, but goddamn take a well deserved and needed rest.

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