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[ecuhus1981]

I know some people who are considering leaving the country over it.

I'm one of them.

My wife and I have had some conversations about, what if these racial tensions ramp up more than we're comfortable? What if the girls aren't safe in public? I'm not gonna go into details, but we have options, and it would be foolish of us not to talk and prepare ourselves mentally. We're not far ideologically from Germany in the aughts of the last century. History is repeating itself.

[Prokorov]

yea I get that but again, it is a headache to go thru. For instance, in my job if I need some "mental days" they will allow me some days off but they will be on my body after that. That's when I start getting random drug tests and all these pysch evaluations etc.. nobody got time for all that

You make it sounds like some choice. like people with depression or anxiety can just be like... you know what, today im gonna chose not to suffer with mental health. If you have ever known anyone who struggles with Anxiety, it can be crippling. the way a leg cramp cripples you physically is the way anxiety cripples you mentally. it comes on fast and strong and you are kind of paralyized until its over. People often criticize people who suffer from anxiety or depressiong because they "are smiling all the time" or "just saw them doing a fun thing" how can they be sad or anxious? but on the inside those people are struggling.

I have a family to take care of. Most ppl in america are dealing with some sort of anxiety or depression, Kyrie ain't special. He acts like he's special , he's privileged and entitled. Alot of ppl are going thru a whole lot worse than his little hissy fits about the capitol.

Actually no, most people are not dealing with anxiety or depression. and the ones who are need to take care of themselves in order to take care of their families. you push anxiety or depression and the end results are not pretty.

lol bro these conversations make me laugh and cringe at the same time, especially coming from a white guy. Take your cape off bro, you won't get any cool points for it. Oh I forgot you live in Boston, yea racism is definitely a real issue there. Thank god I live in NYC and don't have to deal with that .

if you want to joke about racism thats on you. and the idea that i cant be all in against racism cause im white is straight up nonsense. if its not important enough to you then do you but dont get on me because i view it as the countries biggest problem.

[Prokorov]

But Kyrie is the ONLY one in the NBA pulling these kinda stunts, the only one, nobody else. It's just always so much drama with kyrie, like I don't get it. Does he love this type of attention? It hasn't even been a whole month of basketball and he's already with the shenanigans . He had a whole off season and even last season and even thru the bubble to get his mind right. I don't know what more does he want, what else would make him happy? He seems like he doesn't even care about ball anymore. What went wrong in his life I would really like to know, or is it just not enough. What is it?

What went wrong in his life? Well at 4 years old he watched his mom suffer and die of sepsis. Then one of the kids at his school got shot and killed the day before his high school graduation.

So i mean, you know, there is that. it is why he is so invovled in womens issues and so involved with race/social injustice/poverty issues.

You can say "well alot of people lose their parents" but for many losing a parent at a young age, especially 3-6 years old when you are old enough to know they are gone yet still in your developmental years that can leave long last scars and trauma. Especially around death. MAny who have lose someone tragically at a young age suffer from anxiety. its one of the most common triggers for most non-social anxiety disorders.

So, I know he has made hundreds of millions of dollars. would you trade your mom or wife or kids life for a few hundred million. im not sure any amount of money he makes is going to bring his mom back.

[Prokorov]

I know some people who are considering leaving the country over it.

I'm one of them.

My wife and I have had some conversations about, what if these racial tensions ramp up more than we're comfortable? What if the girls aren't safe in public? I'm not gonna go into details, but we have options, and it would be foolish of us not to talk and prepare ourselves mentally. We're not far ideologically from Germany in the aughts of the last century. History is repeating itself.

Before i had my daughter in 2019 we were dead set on moving to florence. My mom lived there for 12 years when i was in my 20s so we know some people over there. Italy was really easy to get dual citizen ships, we just had to prove one of our great-great grandparents was born there. some paperwork and a few months and we had it. but once we had our daughter, it was tough to leave and pick up and move and made it harden to leave family who we wanted her to grow up knowing. so we waited for this election before deciding. Glad trump is out. now we feel we have options

[vincecarter4pres]

Don't have the time to fully get into this, but one thing I'd like to touch on is the depression and anxiety thing. Prok said just what I wanted to. You can't set a time limit on mental health. It could take 12 days, it can take 12 years. The mind is a strange thing. You can't just say, hey, I don't want anxiety and depression anymore and snap your fingers and your issues are gone. I don't know that Kyrie is suffering from any of this, or if he's just a diva, or a misguided young man with good intentions who hasn't fully grasped how to harness his leverage and power. But as an in general with mental illness for anyone suffering through it, no matter how deep a hold it has over you, if just doesn't work like that. It is unpredictable and hard to treat. It can be something fleeting, or something dominating and crippling. No one really wants it. There are some who are fringe and definitely exploit it for attention, or abuse it to just be a lazy $hit, or avoid standard things and events that no one really wants to do or attend and that's a problem and something of a disease all unto itself. But true depression, anxiety, delusion, paranoia, etc., is a fcking monster to deal with.

My main issue with Kyrie, is that whatever the case maybe... Mental issues, or protesting against these recent and ongoing atrocities, family issues... whatever it is... is that he didn't remain in close contact with Nash and the rest of the coaching staff. If that is the case, even if this recent time off has nothing to do with the reports he's livid with the organization over the Nash hiring, there is a legit issue with him and Nash and those reports do have some substance as a backstory, if he was in contact with some teammates and Marks, but not Nash and his staff. All the other things of this aside, he has serious respect issues and problems with authority.

[MrDollarBills]

I know some people who are considering leaving the country over it.

I'm one of them.

My wife and I have had some conversations about, what if these racial tensions ramp up more than we're comfortable? What if the girls aren't safe in public? I'm not gonna go into details, but we have options, and it would be foolish of us not to talk and prepare ourselves mentally. We're not far ideologically from Germany in the aughts of the last century. History is repeating itself.

The Capitol raid was a modern day Beer Hall Putsch.

Every single person who stepped foot in that building should be jailed for 20 years. Every single one.

[Prokorov]

Don't have the time to fully get into this, but one thing I'd like to touch on is the depression and anxiety thing. Prok said just what I wanted to. You can't set a time limit on mental health. It could take 12 days, it can take 12 years. The mind is a strange thing. You can't just say, hey, I don't want anxiety and depression anymore and snap your fingers and your issues are gone. I don't know that Kyrie is suffering from any of this, or if he's just a diva, or a misguided young man with good intentions who hasn't fully grasped how to harness his leverage and power. But as an in general with mental illness for anyone suffering through it, no matter how deep a hold it has over you, if just doesn't work like that. It is unpredictable and hard to treat. It can be something fleeting, or something dominating and crippling. No one really wants it. There are some who are fringe and definitely exploit it for attention, or abuse it to just be a lazy $hit, or avoid standard things and events that no one really wants to do or attend and that's a problem and something of a disease all unto itself. But true depression, anxiety, delusion, paranoia, etc., is a fcking monster to deal with.

My main issue with Kyrie, is that whatever the case maybe... Mental issues, or protesting against these recent and ongoing atrocities, family issues... whatever it is... is that he didn't remain in close contact with Nash and the rest of the coaching staff. If that is the case, even if this recent time off has nothing to do with the reports he's livid with the organization over the Nash hiring, there is a legit issue with him and Nash and those reports do have some substance as a backstory, if he was in contact with some teammates and Marks, but not Nash and his staff. All the other things of this aside, he has serious respect issues and problems with authority.

WTF you been? Dont want... need your harden take.

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[MrDollarBills]

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Props to Kyrie, he probably didn't want anyone knowing this though.

[vincecarter4pres]

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Props to Kyrie, he probably didn't want anyone knowing this though.

Was thinking that too. He loves helping people, but it feels like he doesn't want the publicity to go with it. That's honorable, but hard to pull off in today's age of social media and smartphones.

[Whiskey Slick]

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Props to Kyrie, he probably didn't want anyone knowing this though.

Was thinking that too. He loves helping people, but it feels like he doesn't want the publicity to go with it. That's honorable, but hard to pull off in today's age of social media and smartphones.

I'm glad he was able to buy George Floyd's family a house (for real). What I'm not happy about is he bought it with the money the Nets/NBA are paying him NOT to play basketball.

[MrDollarBills]

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Props to Kyrie, he probably didn't want anyone knowing this though.

Was thinking that too. He loves helping people, but it feels like he doesn't want the publicity to go with it. That's honorable, but hard to pull off in today's age of social media and smartphones.

I'm glad he was able to buy George Floyd's family a house (for real). What I'm not happy about is he bought it with the money the Nets/NBA are paying him NOT to play basketball.

Kyrie has amassed $126,446,207 so far in his career not including endorsements. He can buy several houses in full without it making a dent in his finances. It's irrelevant what game checks have gone towards the purchase of a house for a family that could use some kindness.

I'm mad at him too about how things went down, but this ain't it. We can separate the two issues, acknowledge that Kyrie is a kind man who uses his wealth for good causes, but also leaves a lot to be desired as a basketball teammate.

[Whiskey Slick]

Kyrie has amassed $126,446,207 so far in his career not including endorsements. He can buy several houses in full without it making a dent in his finances. It's irrelevant what game checks have gone towards the purchase of a house for a family that could use some kindness.

I'm mad at him too about how things went down, but this ain't it. We can separate the two issues, acknowledge that Kyrie is a kind man who uses his wealth for good causes, but also leaves a lot to be desired as a basketball teammate.

That's fair.

[MrDollarBills]

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Say no more. Welcome back.

[CalamityX12]

Luv the response. Mature and a professional way to own it.

Done. Like he said, he'll let his actions do all the talking. Bounce back KI!

[Paradise]

He still looks sad. Nobody knows what kind of personal dynamics might’ve happened since returning home with his entire immediate family.

Like I said, I know personally in my own life it’s extremely hard to balance certain things but I couldn’t imagine having that spotlight and ridicule through it all.

The man isn’t some scrub either, he’s missing time on 27 PPG, 5 REBs, 6 ASTs, 50% FG, 42% 3pt, 99% FT, 63.6% TS%.

Put some respect on his name.

[Prokorov]

I hope now that we got a few wins and some time has passed people have came around on what I always viewed as a justified step away. People went REALLY hard on Kyrie. No benefit of the doubt. Never waited for more details. For me anything to do with Family, personal/mental/physical health is always a justified reason to step away. take care of those things and come back when you are focused. For Kyrie especially, having lost his mom at a young age, then his grandfather in 2019 and kobe in 2020 anytime something family comes up it needs to be amplified for him. Even if you dont notice, losing a parent at a young age has ripples that last your lifetime.

Also, if anyone isnt at least mostly satisified with:

1) Kyrie taking 100% accountability and blame, showing he knows it effects others
2) the reason being "family related"

then there really was never any satisfying you and you were predetermined to hate on him here.

Dude is back, whatever is going on clearly is hurting him, its not some random hiatus. and he seems bought in on basketball too, with perspective family is always first

[MrDollarBills]

He still looks sad. Nobody knows what kind of personal dynamics might’ve happened since returning home with his entire immediate family.

Yeah I was going to say, his body language and facial expressions when he was answering questions are a complete 360 from how he was a few weeks ago. He is definitely going through a down period.

[Prokorov]

He still looks sad. Nobody knows what kind of personal dynamics might’ve happened since returning home with his entire immediate family.

Yeah I was going to say, his body language and facial expressions when he was answering questions are a complete 360 from how he was a few weeks ago. He is definitely going through a down period.

Body language is not something you can use reliably to judge someones personal, mental or emotional health. Robin Williams looked like the happiest guy on earth before he committed suicide. Being depressed or having anxiety doesnt prevent you from smiling or taking joy in any given moment, and in many cases is a defense mechanism as being "outed" as being unhappy can often lead to further anxiety or is the source of it to begin with.

It isnt reasonable (not saying you are doing this MDB) to ask someone to communicate their emotions 24/7 or explain themselves when they are struggling with something.

And as far as a family issue who knows. could he dad, his daughter, his sister, could be death threats (common for threats to be issued to family members of those involved in black causes). it could be someone sick, passed, away, someone in a fight, someone hurt, someone in trouble with the law or drugs.

I know it would be hard for me to be at work if i got acall my sister checked into rehab.

[MrDollarBills]

He still looks sad. Nobody knows what kind of personal dynamics might’ve happened since returning home with his entire immediate family.

Yeah I was going to say, his body language and facial expressions when he was answering questions are a complete 360 from how he was a few weeks ago. He is definitely going through a down period.

Being depressed or having anxiety doesnt prevent you from smiling or taking joy in any given moment, and in many cases is a defense mechanism as being "outed" as being unhappy can often lead to further anxiety or is the source of it to begin with.

Believe me, I know. Having to smile and look chipper to people at work on days when suicide ideation and other anxiety fueled intrusive thoughts are rampaging inside of your brain isn't very fun.

I just brought up his body language and facial expressions because I can see it in him, I know that look all too well. He's not feeling well at all but he's back and going to push through.

I admit that I let the whole party issue and zoom call (which we now know, was fine since he was already in QT) get to me and I got pissed because i thought he was dicking around when he really wasn't (the party was stupid though, and i think part of his apology is definitely about that).

If I could apologize to the guy, I would.