Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[MrDollarBills]

Him getting ripped off is all but a forgone conclusion.

[ALL HAIL]

Jordan Hill and Carlos Boozer for Lopez ... save money, (arguably) get better.

[Lamak]

The desire to trade Lopez for trash at this point is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) just to salary dump. It's also starting to be frustrating that he hasn't been starting, the man has been balling.

[Paradise]

Jordan Hill and Carlos Boozer for Lopez ... save money, (arguably) get better.

Get better how?

[Luca Brasi]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

[F3LON]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

Reggie Jackson is a bum and is looking to get paid. He isn't getting you Lopez. OKC doesn't have enough to get Lopez.

[F3LON]

Is he trying to create enemies across the league?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson/status/562423157207072768[/tweet]

Reading the discussion off of this tweet is great. This guy is flat out calling Billy King a LIAR.

Which he is.

It's funny how full of it the Nets FO is. Their trained parrot spews whatever they feel at the moment. For Example, NI went out of his way to say that Blatche would never be allowed back on the Nets. NEVER. Now he is trying to sell the company line that the Nets need him. He's their little btch boy

[Antti22]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

Reggie Jackson is a bum and is looking to get paid. He isn't getting you Lopez. OKC doesn't have enough to get Lopez.

Its weird to see your opinion differ from most of the user here who are gushing over scrubs like PJIII and Lamb and saying that Lopez is not enough to get them, not to mention Reggie.

But for once, I agree with you.

[F3LON]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

Reggie Jackson is a bum and is looking to get paid. He isn't getting you Lopez. OKC doesn't have enough to get Lopez.

Its weird to see your opinion differ from most of the user here who are gushing over scrubs like PJIII and Lamb and saying that Lopez is not enough to get them, not to mention Reggie.

But for once, I agree with you.

Reggie is a lose/lose for the Nets. Let's pretend that he is an above average player. He is looking to get paid this offseason. Why dump Lopez's salary just to pay this guy and waste 2016 salary.

Now lets deal in reality, Reggie isnt a very good player. Sub par shooter who is a high usage player. Why would we take him when we have the better version of him in Jack already?

I like Perry Jones but he isnt enough for Lopez. Lamb can be a good player but I dont think he moves the needle. He is too passive. OKC is trying to dump thier junk on us and they are mad that we arent buying.

[ALL HAIL]

Much like Billy King, many Nets fans, it seems, are unclear on what they really want.

If the Nets are about winning to make the playoffs, they should, by my estimation, keep Lopez. But according to many posters, keeping Lopez would be "irresponsible". There seems to be a need for wing and froncourt depth in any return for Lopez, but that "need" seems quite specific, so specific that it seems that trading Lopez could be an extremely challenging endeavor ...

... so, knowing all of this, why would it be such a travesty if King did not find a deal for Lopez?

There isn't even a very general consensus as to what would be a reasonable return for Lopez--a guy who is lambasted for being utterly worthless, soft, and a non-winner for this franchise. If Net's fans see these qualities, isn't it reasonable to think that NBA execs see them too?

If you want the best chance to win, keep him (regardless of what the advanced stats show).
If you want to save money next year, trade him for expirings that give you a chance to be as good or better than you are now.
If you want to acquire a player that is better than Lopez, the chances are very, very, very slim.

[kerry kittles]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

Reggie Jackson is a bum and is looking to get paid. He isn't getting you Lopez. OKC doesn't have enough to get Lopez.

Its weird to see your opinion differ from most of the user here who are gushing over scrubs like PJIII and Lamb and saying that Lopez is not enough to get them, not to mention Reggie.

But for once, I agree with you.

Jeremy Lamb's numbers:
16.2 MPG 7.4 ppg, 54.6 TS%, 12.3 AST%, 9 TOV%, 36% 3p%, 15.4 PER

Bojan Bogdanovic:
22.7 MPG, 7.5 ppg, 52.3 TS%, 5.6 AST%, 10.5 TOV%, 30.8 3P%, 9.6 PER

Anderson and Bogdanovic both have PERs below 10. The guys we have splitting the SG positions are scrubs. Lamb is 3 full years younger than Bogdanovic. He would be the 3rd best 3 point shooter on this team, that could use a SG that could hit an open 3.

I want Mitch McGary too, a guy drafted in the first round a year ago that fills a position of need.

McGary and Lamb are upgrades over Bogdanovic/Jefferson and both are younger.

It better balances the team, injects youth plus Perkins expiring gives the team the full MLE this offseason, the ability to do S&T's.

If you don't think OKC has the pieces to get a Lopez deal done you think Perkins, Lamb, McGary, plus a 1st - which I don't think OKC would do, wouldn't be enough in your eyes?!?

[Paradise]

Is he trying to create enemies across the league?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson/status/562423157207072768[/tweet]

Reading the discussion off of this tweet is great. This guy is flat out calling Billy King a LIAR.

Which he is.

It's funny how full of it the Nets FO is. Their trained parrot spews whatever they feel at the moment. For Example, NI went out of his way to say that Blatche would never be allowed back on the Nets. NEVER. Now he is trying to sell the company line that the Nets need him. He's their little btch boy

We do. Blatche was a big part of our team for the last two seasons. We lost alot of talent and depth when Livingston/Pierce/Blatche left. Getting him back to fill the PF void is a big deal.

[lkitt0804]

Much like Billy King, many Nets fans, it seems, are unclear on what they really want.

If the Nets are about winning to make the playoffs, they should, by my estimation, keep Lopez. But according to many posters, keeping Lopez would be "irresponsible". There seems to be a need for wing and froncourt depth in any return for Lopez, but that "need" seems quite specific, so specific that it seems that trading Lopez could be an extremely challenging endeavor ...

... so, knowing all of this, why would it be such a travesty if King did not find a deal for Lopez?

There isn't even a very general consensus as to what would be a reasonable return for Lopez--a guy who is lambasted for being utterly worthless, soft, and a non-winner for this franchise. If Net's fans see these qualities, isn't it reasonable to think that NBA execs see them too?

If you want the best chance to win, keep him (regardless of what the advanced stats show).
If you want to save money next year, trade him for expirings that give you a chance to be as good or better than you are now.
If you want to acquire a player that is better than Lopez, the chances are very, very, very slim.

I think there are a few posters here that get overly harsh on the players. There's a lot of passion in Nets fans and with that comes over reactions to a certain degree. At the end of the day we need to make the playoffs. The Nets FO from the day they said our big 3 were on the block have maintained that this isn't a fire sale and we weren't just dumping salary. With that being said we can't just tank because it doesn't benefit the team in any way. So we are in the position of playoffs or bust.

We need a legit 2/3 type and a legit 4. We maybe able to get a legit 4 in Blatche. Lance is an option at the 2 but if we get him we should start Deron instead of Jack.


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[MrDollarBills]

Is he trying to create enemies across the league?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson/status/562423157207072768[/tweet]

Reading the discussion off of this tweet is great. This guy is flat out calling Billy King a LIAR.

Which he is.

It's funny how full of it the Nets FO is. Their trained parrot spews whatever they feel at the moment. For Example, NI went out of his way to say that Blatche would never be allowed back on the Nets. NEVER. Now he is trying to sell the company line that the Nets need him. He's their little btch boy

Yeah, his opinion changes like that wind. I suppose that making a complete ass out of yourself is the cost of doing business when the Nets are giving you free season tickets in exchange for running a mouthpiece blog to spin nonsense to whatever's left of the fanbase.

[MrDollarBills]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

Reggie Jackson is a bum and is looking to get paid. He isn't getting you Lopez. OKC doesn't have enough to get Lopez.

Its weird to see your opinion differ from most of the user here who are gushing over scrubs like PJIII and Lamb and saying that Lopez is not enough to get them, not to mention Reggie.

But for once, I agree with you.

I'd be down to get Jackson but he isn't worth overpaying in the offseason. Lamb and Jones are two young players that we can use since we aren't getting talent through the draft for the next few years. Lamb is BETTER than Bojan, Karasev, and Anderson.

If we can make a deal where we can acquire Perkins' expiring and flip it to Minnesota for Thad, Jones, and Lamb I'd consider that a decent haul for a player who is inconsistent, poor defensively, brings questionable energy and effort, and is a ticking time bomb injury wise.

While I don't think Lopez is worth a bag of balls like what Denver offered, I don't think he's fetching more than what OKC is offering. Net fans need to come to terms with the fact that the fanbase grossly overrates Lopez, especially after one of the few games where he plays hard, whereas outside of the biased net fandom Lopez is viewed as an injury prone, soft player that doesn't defend and doesn't rebound.

[MrDollarBills]

Much like Billy King, many Nets fans, it seems, are unclear on what they really want.

If the Nets are about winning to make the playoffs, they should, by my estimation, keep Lopez. But according to many posters, keeping Lopez would be "irresponsible". There seems to be a need for wing and froncourt depth in any return for Lopez, but that "need" seems quite specific, so specific that it seems that trading Lopez could be an extremely challenging endeavor ...

... so, knowing all of this, why would it be such a travesty if King did not find a deal for Lopez?

There isn't even a very general consensus as to what would be a reasonable return for Lopez--a guy who is lambasted for being utterly worthless, soft, and a non-winner for this franchise. If Net's fans see these qualities, isn't it reasonable to think that NBA execs see them too?

If you want the best chance to win, keep him (regardless of what the advanced stats show).
If you want to save money next year, trade him for expirings that give you a chance to be as good or better than you are now.
If you want to acquire a player that is better than Lopez, the chances are very, very, very slim.

I think there are a few posters here that get overly harsh on the players. There's a lot of passion in Nets fans and with that comes over reactions to a certain degree. At the end of the day we need to make the playoffs. The Nets FO from the day they said our big 3 were on the block have maintained that this isn't a fire sale and we weren't just dumping salary. With that being said we can't just tank because it doesn't benefit the team in any way. So we are in the position of playoffs or bust.

We need a legit 2/3 type and a legit 4. We maybe able to get a legit 4 in Blatche. Lance is an option at the 2 but if we get him we should start Deron instead of Jack.


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Billy King talks out of both sides of his mouth. We have no idea what their intentions are regarding firesale or making the post season. the team is also up for sale and the owner has checked out

[Keith Van Horn]

OKC will probably keep Jackson as insurance in case Westbrook goes down, then let him walk in the summer.

[Prokorov]

Jordan Hill and Carlos Boozer for Lopez ... save money, (arguably) get better.

i dont think boozer can be traded

i dont see why LA would do it

but obviusly that would be a great deal for us

[Prokorov]

It seems the most logical thing to happen would be a Lopez for Reggie Jackson/Kendrick Perkins trade.

Both teams wanna do a deal. You guys get a prize piece for Lopez, we get the scoring center we want.

Maybe a third team gets involved somehow, or maybe a few other pieces are thrown in. But I think the best thing for both teams at this point is to do what is basically a Reggie for Lopez swap.

Thoughts?

id do it for sure, cant see okc parting with jackson for lopez though.

[Prokorov]

The desire to trade Lopez for trash at this point is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) just to salary dump. It's also starting to be frustrating that he hasn't been starting, the man has been balling.

he shouldnt start. he has been better off the bench and does disrupt the offense as much when playing with reserves. Plumlee is also a better option and KG works better next to him.

there is no reason brook should be starting over mason