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Post#81 » by Claud » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:02 pm

Will definatelly have to keep tabs on the Nuggets' season. If we can get a pick in the mid teens out of this deal... :o :o


Combining picks to move up is also a great option. Marks has so much flexibility. Curious to see what happens.
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Post#82 » by 13th Man » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:49 pm

Paradise wrote:The 2019 lottery class just released by Yahoo.com

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1. R.J. BARRETT, Duke

Barrett seems like he is ready to follow in the footsteps of Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins before him, becoming the third Canadian youngster to get picked No. 1 in the draft. Before we get into stats and projections, it must be noted: Barrett was phenomenal at the U19 World Cup last summer, as he led the Canadians to a gold medal. That included a semifinal win over Team USA where Barrett put up 38 points, 13 boards and five assists on an American team that included the likes of P.J. Washington, Cam Reddish, Carsen Edwards and first round picks Josh Okogie and Kevin Huerter.

There is an awful lot to like about Barrett and the way that he projects at the NBA level. He stands 6-foot-6. He already has a solid build. He can play on the ball given his passing ability and has the athleticism to play as a wing and a slasher off the ball. He should be able to guard multiple positions. His ceiling will be determined by how well his jumper develops, but he’s already spent time working with the Three-Point Whisperer, Drew Hanlen.

2. NASSIR LITTLE, North Carolina

Little’s college career got off to something of a rocky start before it even started. He found himself ensnared in the FBI’s investigation into corruption in college basketball when shoe company executives were caught on wiretaps talking about a bidding war between Nike and Adidas and whether they’d funnel him to Arizona or Miami. That turned out well for North Carolina, because he fell into their lap and could end up being the highest Tar Heel picked in the draft since Marvin Williams went No. 2 in 2005.

Little was one of the biggest risers in this recruiting class, going from being a four-star recruit to a top five player in the class. He was the MVP of the McDonalds game. He’s added strength and continuously played with a motor that he hasn’t always shown. His size (6-foot-7), length (7-foot-1 wingspan) and athletic ability makes him an ideal switchable wing, and if his jumper continues to progress, he’ll have a chance to play for a long time in the NBA.

3. CAM REDDISH, Duke

Like Little and Barrett, Reddish is a fluid, 6-foot-7 wing with a long wingspan and the kind of athleticism that would lead you to believe he can play and defend multiple positions. Unlike Barrett and Little, Reddish is further along on the offensive side of the ball than on the defensive side. He’s a better shooter than the two guys listed in front of him, but his growth will come as he learns to be tougher and improves defensively.

But that skill-set he has offensively is really intriguing, and there are some that believe that, given what his ceiling is as a scorer, he could end up being the best player in this class if it all comes together for him.

4. DE’ANDRE HUNTER, Virginia

Hunter is going to be an interesting draft prospect to monitor. For the most part, Tony Bennett has done a phenomenal job at turning relatively average — from an NBA perspective — prospect into quality pros. Mike Scott is still in the NBA. Malcolm Brogdon won Rookie of the Year and looks like a steal of a second round pick. Joe Harris. Justin Anderson. Even Klay Thompson is a Tony Bennett product from the Washington State days.

But Hunter, who averaged 9.2 points and 3.5 boards last season, is different. Given his physical tools and skill-set, he fits the mold of a wing in the modern NBA perfectly. He has the size at 6-foot-7, the wingspan, the defensive versatility. He can makes threes and attack closeouts. He has some ability to create his own shot. How will he develop in a system that is so … well, Virginia?

5. QUENTIN GRIMES, Kansas

Grimes is stepping into a situation at Kansas that is going to be somewhat strange. On the one hand, with four starters gone — including the entire perimeter — the Jayhawks are going to have shots available. On the other hand, Kansas had three players, including all-american Dedric Lawson, sitting out as transfers. Rarely has a new roster ever been so experienced.

Grimes should fit in just fine. At 6-foot-5, he has the size and ability to play on or off the ball. He can shoot it, he can operate in ball-screens and he has a feel for the game. He’s just a good, solid basketball player that has some upside and should provide Bill Self — who he spent July playing for with the U18 team — with some immediate backcourt relief.

6. SEKOU DOUMBOUYA, France

I’m not going to pretend like I’ve watched a ton of video on Doumbouya, but people I trust are high on him. The native of Guinea checks all the boxes for what NBA teams are looking for: Long, athletic, versatile defensively. Read this profile on him to get a feel.

7. DANIEL GAFFORD, Arkansas

Gafford was arguably the biggest surprise in this draft class, as he turned down a chance to sneak into the back-end of the lottery to return to Arkansas for his sophomore season. At 6-foot-11, Gafford, who posted 11.8 points, 6.2 boards and 2.2 blocks as a freshman in the SEC, is an absolute freak of an athlete with solid length, some defensive instincts and quite a bit of potential.

To me, Gafford is built in the mold of of the rim-running, lob-catching, paint-protecting big with the potential to be switchable on the perimeter. We’ll see if his jumper ever comes around, but even if it doesn’t, he’s giving off some strong Clint Capela vibes, and that’s something that everyone is going to be looking for.

8. ROMEO LANGFORD, Indiana

Langford has all the hype. An Indiana high school basketball legend that chased another Indiana high school basketball legend’s state scoring record, never left the state and opted to play his college ball for the Hoosiers. There’s a reason this kid spent an hour signing autographs for fans after his high school games.

He’s going to be an even bigger star for the Hoosiers next season, who I think will be in the NCAA tournament. Langford, a 6-foot-5 scorer and big-time athlete with a 6-foot-10 wingspan, could end up averaging 18 points next season. “He’s a bucket.”

9. LOUIS KING, Oregon

Bol Bol, the 7-foot-3 son of Manute Bol who spends all day shooting threes, is the Oregon player that is inevitably going to get the most hype, but for my money it’s Louis King that will end up being the best pro. At 6-foot-7 with a 7-foot wingspan, King is the kind of fluid, skilled wing that is en vogue in the modern NBA.

The thing that’s intriguing about him is that he has some skill offensively. He’s more of a combo-forward than he is a natural wing, but he can do some things off the dribble, has shown flashes of being a playmaker and has developed into a guy that is threat from beyond the arc. He should thrive in Dana Altman’s system at Oregon.

10. RUI HACHIMURA, Gonzaga

Rui’s potential is off the charts, and I still get the sense that the 6-foot-8 Beninese-Japanese Gonzaga product doesn’t totally have a feel for how the game is played here just yet. I fully believe that Rui is going to get buckets for the Zags next season, but if he is going to develop into a top ten pick, there are some things that he needs to improve on.

Shooting is an issue for him — he’s shot just 9-for-40 from three in two seasons in Spokane. He is also going to need to continue to develop on the defensive end of the floor, where he is fairly unproductive for a player with his physical tools. But the potential is there, and he’ll spend plenty of time on national television; Gonzaga is No. 2 in the NBC Sports Preseason Top 25.

11. DARIUS GARLAND, Vanderbilt

For me, Garland is the best NBA prospect of the point guards in the 2018 recruiting class. As competitive as Ashton Hagans is and as much of a proven winner as Tre Jones is, Garland’s game seems to fit the best at the next level. The NBA is a league where skill-level is becoming more and more important, which is why you saw Trae Young end up the No. 5 pick in the 2018 NBA Draft despite his warts.

For my money, Garland is the most skilled of the point guards. He’s probably the best shooter, he can operate in ball-screens and he’s a passer. He’ll be asked to shoulder plenty of the load for Vandy next season, so he should be fun to track.

12. CARSEN EDWARDS, Purdue

I think Edwards is going to have a monstrous season as a junior for the Boilermakers. He averaged 18.5 points and 2.8 assists this season while shooting 40.6 percent from three despite playing on a team with four seniors, three of whom were all-league players.

Next year, Purdue will be his team, and I think we’ll get a better look at just how dynamic he can be. The key for Edwards will be his passing ability. He’s always been something of a score-first guard, and there’s a place for that in the NBA, but if he is going to end up being picked this high, he needs to showcase a better ability to get teammates involved.

13. HERB JONES, Alabama

All the talk about Alabama’s recruiting class last season centered on Collin Sexton and, to a lesser extent, John Petty, but there is reason to believe that Jones could end up being the best of the bunch. At 6-foot-7 with a 7-foot wingspan, he was the guy that Avery Johnson tasked with slowing down Trae Young when the Crimson Tide faced Alabama this season. He has all the tools that you need to be a terrific defender in the NBA.

The issue is the other side of the ball. He averaged just 4.2 points last season, and his jumper was … let’s just say not great. But he played as a secondary ball-handler at times and initiated some offense, and he seems to have a decent feel of how to play. This is a big summer for him. With Sexton gone, someone is going to need to fill that void, and Jones could be the guy.

14. ZION WILLIAMSON, Duke

The hype-train for Zion, one of the single-most explosive athletes that I have ever seen, went totally off the rails during his senior season in high school, as the 6-foot-5, 275-pound forward went viral on a nightly basis with his in-game aerial antics. And look, I’m all the way here for the dunks, but I can’t help but wonder just how he impacts a basketball game beyond that.

In my mind, stardom for Williamson comes if he turns into Draymond Green, a small-ball five that fully embraces being a defensive stopper that can guard any position, protects the rim and is a threat to grab-and-go in transition. But Green is a terrific passer that played as a de facto point guard in college, and I’m not sure Williamson is that. Maybe he’s Julius Randle, who seems to be just good enough for the Lakers to have to resign but not quite good enough to have much trade value. That success, however, lies in accepting that he’s closer to being a five than a three. We’ll see how it plays out, I guess.

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FTR, I was touting Nassir Little in this very thread when he was ranked #10 and now he's #2, no longer a secret! :)

I was very impressed with him in the games where he played against Barrett and even seemed to outplay him as well. He then stole the McDonald's MVP from Barrett which propelled him all the way to #2.
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Post#83 » by shakendfries » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:53 am

Being realistic about this draft, all the talented players are guards and we need a skilled forward. I like Sekou Doumbouya and even if we're decent this season, we'll probably still have a chance to draft him or Zion Williamson in the later part of the lottery
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Post#84 » by Sleepyazn » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:56 am

I don't really like how all 3 of the "top" prospect right now are basically the same players. Not ultra athletic 6'6-7 dudes that all need to learn to shoot to be a real star. This might be a disaster.
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Post#85 » by shakendfries » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:17 pm

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Post#86 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:37 pm

Williamson needs to show a lot this winter at Duke. His high school footage is not impressive at all.
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Post#87 » by Prokorov » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:59 pm

shakendfries wrote:Being realistic about this draft, all the talented players are guards and we need a skilled forward. I like Sekou Doumbouya and even if we're decent this season, we'll probably still have a chance to draft him or Zion Williamson in the later part of the lottery


other then maybe center, we need everything. especially since crabbe/russell/dinwiddie are at least 50/50 to not return

you take best player available, period, top 3-5 which we should be
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Post#88 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:23 pm

I still think we come in around 30 wins and the 7th or 8th worst record. Hopefully we make a top 3 jump from there.
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Post#89 » by shakendfries » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:51 pm

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shakendfries wrote:Being realistic about this draft, all the talented players are guards and we need a skilled forward. I like Sekou Doumbouya and even if we're decent this season, we'll probably still have a chance to draft him or Zion Williamson in the later part of the lottery


other then maybe center, we need everything. especially since crabbe/russell/dinwiddie are at least 50/50 to not return

you take best player available, period, top 3-5 which we should be


I agree that the Nets should take the best player available, I just don't think that BPA will be easy to gague in this draft. Aside from RJ Barrett, a lot of the players projected in the lottery are flawed shooters. They'll spend a lot of time in the gym this season working on their game and sharpening their skillset, so their progress remains to be seen. But at this point, this feels like a draft where a player drafted in the late lottery might become the best player in the draft.
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Post#90 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:23 am

shakendfries wrote:
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shakendfries wrote:Being realistic about this draft, all the talented players are guards and we need a skilled forward. I like Sekou Doumbouya and even if we're decent this season, we'll probably still have a chance to draft him or Zion Williamson in the later part of the lottery


other then maybe center, we need everything. especially since crabbe/russell/dinwiddie are at least 50/50 to not return

you take best player available, period, top 3-5 which we should be


I agree that the Nets should take the best player available, I just don't think that BPA will be easy to gague in this draft. Aside from RJ Barrett, a lot of the players projected in the lottery are flawed shooters. They'll spend a lot of time in the gym this season working on their game and sharpening their skillset, so their progress remains to be seen. But at this point, this feels like a draft where a player drafted in the late lottery might become the best player in the draft.


RJ Barrett is actually a flawed shooter, its the biggest question mark about his game. Cam Reddish and Nassir Little are both better shooters than him at this point.

I actually think that this draft class has some really good players. The top 5 guys (RJ, Reddish, Doumboya, Little, Williamson) are all super intriguing and would be great in a Nets uniform.
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Post#91 » by 13th Man » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:35 pm

Can't remember where but someone was saying that Barrett has been working extensively on his shooting this summer and is vastly improving in this aspect if so, watch out! Can't wait to follow Duke this year!
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Post#92 » by shakendfries » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:17 pm


6’7” & 285
Definitely out of shape & I hope they’re being conservative with the height, but he’s a tank. Hope he’s better at hoopin than Justice Winslow


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Post#93 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:07 pm

285 lbs and jumps out of the building. jesus

lets see how well this translates in college though.
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Post#95 » by akhan786 » Fri Aug 3, 2018 11:44 pm

shakendfries wrote:
6’7” & 285
Definitely out of shape & I hope they’re being conservative with the height, but he’s a tank. Hope he’s better at hoopin than Justice Winslow


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Are we sure he's out of shape? That skin looks taut and look at his arms at 4:46. Questions about his work ethic are coming from lazy people making conclusions based off just his weight.



As an aside...it's strange seeing such a large human have a voice and innocence of a teenager haha.
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Post#96 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Aug 4, 2018 2:51 am

I'm skeptical of Williamson but the idea that he is out of shape is ridiculous. Out of shape players aren't jumping from the free throw line throwing down dunks. The kid's physique is tank like and he has elite athletic ability. If you're Sean Marks, he's definitely on your draft board in the lottery. I just need to see what else he can do besides bully smaller players. I will be watching Duke games like a hawk this year because they have multiple targets on their roster.

It would not be shocking if he ends up as a Net next season. That being said, we need to land the best athlete with upside in this draft. The kid who will be playing for UNC is an intriguing prospect, as well as the kid from Gonzaga.
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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm skeptical of Williamson but the idea that he is out of shape is ridiculous. Out of shape players aren't jumping from the free throw line throwing down dunks. The kid's physique is tank like and he has elite athletic ability. If you're Sean Marks, he's definitely on your draft board in the lottery. I just need to see what else he can do besides bully smaller players. I will be watching Duke games like a hawk this year because they have multiple targets on their roster.

It would not be shocking if he ends up as a Net next season. That being said, we need to land the best athlete with upside in this draft. The kid who will be playing for UNC is an intriguing prospect, as well as the kid from Gonzaga.



theyre discussing Zion playing smallball 5 and he's so underskilled as a wing they're comparing him to tractor traylor :nonono:
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Post#98 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:15 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm skeptical of Williamson but the idea that he is out of shape is ridiculous. Out of shape players aren't jumping from the free throw line throwing down dunks. The kid's physique is tank like and he has elite athletic ability. If you're Sean Marks, he's definitely on your draft board in the lottery. I just need to see what else he can do besides bully smaller players. I will be watching Duke games like a hawk this year because they have multiple targets on their roster.

It would not be shocking if he ends up as a Net next season. That being said, we need to land the best athlete with upside in this draft. The kid who will be playing for UNC is an intriguing prospect, as well as the kid from Gonzaga.



theyre discussing Zion playing smallball 5 and he's so underskilled as a wing they're comparing him to tractor traylor :nonono:


See this is what I was saying about a year or so ago about him. Nothing in his high school tape stood out outside of his size and athletic ability. His wingspan is only 6'10. That's not good.
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Post#99 » by NetSymptom » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:24 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm skeptical of Williamson but the idea that he is out of shape is ridiculous. Out of shape players aren't jumping from the free throw line throwing down dunks. The kid's physique is tank like and he has elite athletic ability. If you're Sean Marks, he's definitely on your draft board in the lottery. I just need to see what else he can do besides bully smaller players. I will be watching Duke games like a hawk this year because they have multiple targets on their roster.

It would not be shocking if he ends up as a Net next season. That being said, we need to land the best athlete with upside in this draft. The kid who will be playing for UNC is an intriguing prospect, as well as the kid from Gonzaga.



theyre discussing Zion playing smallball 5 and he's so underskilled as a wing they're comparing him to tractor traylor :nonono:


See this is what I was saying about a year or so ago about him. Nothing in his high school tape stood out outside of his size and athletic ability. His wingspan is only 6'10. That's not good.


I think his Freshman year will be very telling. We know that he does not have the wing skills now, but we really don't know how much he was being coached on those skills either. For all we know, the HS Coaches saw their ticket to a winning season by relying on Zion's sheer dominance, and asked him to not stray from that or work on developing other skills.

I'm glad he's going somewhere like Duke where Coach K is going to be asking for more fundamentals and development. He will be an interesting guy to watch this year.
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