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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#81 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:13 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:I'm gamed for Okafor....

what would be the package?


Sean Kilpatrick and a swap of 2nd rounders. Maybe we give them one of ours this year for a future protected one. It’s really hard to justify a second round pick by itself, now that Okafors on a 1 year deal.
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Post#82 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:15 pm

I want Okafar as well.

We still don't have enough bigs on the roster and maybe Kenny Atkinson can get something out of him.

He's still pretty talented offensively, and its not like were a defensive minded team anyway.

I'd give up a 2nd rounder for him.
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Post#83 » by Paradise » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:20 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I want Okafar as well.

We still don't have enough bigs on the roster and maybe Kenny Atkinson can get something out of him.

He's still pretty talented offensively, and its not like were a defensive minded team anyway.

I'd give up a 2nd rounder for him.

If they waive him, we get first dibs to claim him. He’s going to be UFA by the summer. We might as well wait it out. We’ll have cap room to sign him outright.
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Post#84 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:59 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I want Okafar as well.

We still don't have enough bigs on the roster and maybe Kenny Atkinson can get something out of him.

He's still pretty talented offensively, and its not like were a defensive minded team anyway.

I'd give up a 2nd rounder for him.

If they waive him, we get first dibs to claim him. He’s going to be UFA by the summer. We might as well wait it out. We’ll have cap room to sign him outright.


This.

Thats why I said it was hard to justify a 2nd rounder. I proposed a Kilpatrick+Orl/La 2nd for Okafor/Hou 2nd but even that might be too much. We really should just wait for them to waive him. I doubt any other team wants him now that he's gonna be a UFA without Bird Rights. Not like anyone wanted him in the first place.
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Post#85 » by JoseRizal » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:06 pm

For a team devoided by talent and has time to develop (with one of the best development coaches in the league) and make mistakes we are the "ideal" team to take on Okafor.

We're not expecting him to anchor our starting 5. If we can somehow make him our scoring punch off the bench (floor) while resting our starters then the risk of taking him is very much justified.

He's still very young like D'lo. And like DAR, he's a reclamation project that might turn out to be a worthy one.

Again, developing young talent is what we are currently doing. Well, both young and talented fairly describes Okafor so I'm all for giving him a chance...
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Post#86 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Nov 1, 2017 12:04 am

Looks like Okafar is looking for a buyout.

If so we should definitely pick him up.
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Post#87 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Nov 1, 2017 2:37 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Looks like Okafar is looking for a buyout.

If so we should definitely pick him up.


apply for disabled player exception for JLIn, use it to sign Okafor if he gets buy out.
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Post#88 » by Paradise » Wed Nov 1, 2017 3:31 am

IceManBK1 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Looks like Okafar is looking for a buyout.

If so we should definitely pick him up.


apply for disabled player exception for JLIn, use it to sign Okafor if he gets buy out.


We also get first right of refusal for buyout candidates.
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Post#89 » by SubZero » Wed Nov 1, 2017 3:37 am

Man I know people get on Okafor a lot for his lack of D, being slow and all that, but this dude is a monster in the post. Would love to have him on the team. He got a nice lil midrange too already, add in a 3 ball, could develop into a solid stretch big here to go along with the fact he a maestro on the block.

I like Allen a lot and his potential on BOTH ends, but Okafor could be a big time help taking the load off DLo/RHJ in the starting lineup, and if anything, it would be Moz minutes he'd be taking not Allen.

IDK how we would acquire him though. Wonder what Philly's asking price is.

Okafor situation sorta like DLo's too in LA. The team that drafted him just don't want him anymore and gave up on him. You know Okafor is hungry as **** to show what he got after how Philly's handled him.
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Post#90 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Nov 1, 2017 5:00 pm

If he gets bought out and we can get him here for the DPE, then absolutely I'm game. Even for Skil + 2nd rounder swap I'd consider it. Either way it's a total low risk move for a guy who would (hopefully) be fighting for redemption and his second chance... similar to Russell.

I'd work with him ASAP on getting acclimated to playing the 5 for us. We need a big body to bang in the paint when the floaters and 3 pointers aren't falling in. We're also in desperate need of a guy who can stop those second chance points from happening. Then I'm sure we'll see him develop his 3 point shot at some point as well... but I wouldn't worry too much about that area of his game right now.

Then for the rest of the season, run Okafor and Moz as your main 2 centers. I love Jarrett Allen as much as everyone else, but we should let him rock out in LI to work on polishing his game for the rest of the season. Call him up next year when it's the Allen and Okafor show, and let Moz be the odd man out.
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Post#91 » by 13th Man » Wed Nov 1, 2017 6:26 pm

I'm more concerned about his bad attitude and work ethics, don't need any of this rubbing off on the young players like Allen.
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Post#92 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Nov 1, 2017 6:31 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:If he gets bought out and we can get him here for the DPE, then absolutely I'm game. Even for Skil + 2nd rounder swap I'd consider it. Either way it's a total low risk move for a guy who would (hopefully) be fighting for redemption and his second chance... similar to Russell.

I'd work with him ASAP on getting acclimated to playing the 5 for us. We need a big body to bang in the paint when the floaters and 3 pointers aren't falling in. We're also in desperate need of a guy who can stop those second chance points from happening. Then I'm sure we'll see him develop his 3 point shot at some point as well... but I wouldn't worry too much about that area of his game right now.

Then for the rest of the season, run Okafor and Moz as your main 2 centers. I love Jarrett Allen as much as everyone else, but we should let him rock out in LI to work on polishing his game for the rest of the season. Call him up next year when it's the Allen and Okafor show, and let Moz be the odd man out.

Allen can get his burn here too... we're an NBA G-League team about development....
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#93 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Nov 1, 2017 6:32 pm

13th Man wrote:I'm more concerned about his bad attitude and work ethics, don't need any of this rubbing off on the young players like Allen.

that does concern me... although I don't think Allen will be affected by it, definitely a smart guy in himself.

But I do/did worry about Okafor's attitude and drive....

really hoping for the best if bought out.
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Post#94 » by shakendfries » Wed Nov 1, 2017 7:55 pm

13th Man wrote:I'm more concerned about his bad attitude and work ethics, don't need any of this rubbing off on the young players like Allen.


I'm willing to wager on Okafor starting strong, but ultimately becoming Allen's whipping boy in practice if he winds up a Net. I get why some people are high on Okafor, but I'm not sure if he's a better player than Kanter in the absolute best case scenario.
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Post#95 » by brook » Wed Nov 1, 2017 9:40 pm

I read the Celtics would sign Okafor if is get a buyout from the 76ers. I hope so, i don't want this guy at all.


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Post#96 » by SubZero » Thu Nov 2, 2017 4:36 am

Where is all this attitude issue talk coming from? The punching a fan incident from when he was a 19 year old rookie? What issues have come up in the last year with him that would concern you about his attitude, or even work ethic? He worked hard to change his body over the summer, went vegan and slimmed down like crazy.

I'm guessing all these negative views about Jahlil is kinda like DLo, where it had to do with perception from incidents when they were rookies. Embiid just had a interview on NBATV today where he talks about Jahlil, and how professional he's been about the whole thing and how Jah's been one of the best teammates he's ever had.

When asked about the situation this was Okafor's response. Great reply:
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Post#97 » by GoodDayLa » Thu Nov 2, 2017 5:49 am

Please for the love of God, do not sign Jahlil OKafor. It will make the Nets worse.
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Post#98 » by Ror1997 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 12:31 pm

GoodDayLa wrote:Please for the love of God, do not sign Jahlil OKafor. It will make the Nets worse.


Our Centers (Mosgov + Allen) currently rank 43rd and 45th in both PER and estimated value added among Centers. Mosgov is 31st in rebounding among C, and Allen isn't even ranked. Mosgov is 38th in Estimated wins added and Allen is 44th.

I don't see how adding Okafor could make our production from C any worse than it already is lol.

Furthermore, at least Okafor can be productive offensively. Mosgov isn't anything special and Allen is raw enough to give you salmonella :lol:
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Post#99 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Nov 2, 2017 1:09 pm

Ror1997 wrote:
GoodDayLa wrote:Please for the love of God, do not sign Jahlil OKafor. It will make the Nets worse.


Our Centers (Mosgov + Allen) currently rank 43rd and 45th in both PER and estimated value added among Centers. Mosgov is 31st in rebounding among C, and Allen isn't even ranked. Mosgov is 38th in Estimated wins added and Allen is 44th.

I don't see how adding Okafor could make our production from C any worse than it already is lol.

Furthermore, at least Okafor can be productive offensively. Mosgov isn't anything special and Allen is raw enough to give you salmonella :lol:


the thing is how would you incorporate Okafor into Nets offense... I just don't see Kenny wants the type of players like Okafor... I don't see any post-up plan from Kenny ... that being said, Okafor is a talent, but if you want him, u do have to have a plan for him first
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Re: Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas 

Post#100 » by Ror1997 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 1:27 pm

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Ror1997 wrote:
GoodDayLa wrote:Please for the love of God, do not sign Jahlil OKafor. It will make the Nets worse.


Our Centers (Mosgov + Allen) currently rank 43rd and 45th in both PER and estimated value added among Centers. Mosgov is 31st in rebounding among C, and Allen isn't even ranked. Mosgov is 38th in Estimated wins added and Allen is 44th.

I don't see how adding Okafor could make our production from C any worse than it already is lol.

Furthermore, at least Okafor can be productive offensively. Mosgov isn't anything special and Allen is raw enough to give you salmonella :lol:


the thing is how would you incorporate Okafor into Nets offense... I just don't see Kenny wants the type of players like Okafor... I don't see any post-up plan from Kenny ... that being said, Okafor is a talent, but if you want him, u do have to have a plan for him first


You say this about a coach who just changed Brook Lopez offensive game, and has Timofey f'n Mosgov shooting threes. I understand your argument, I just don't think its a strong one. Kenny is a developmental coach. The whole point of bringing in Kenny was so he can take guys like RHJ and Dinwiddie and Harris (non elite prospects) and turn them into solid nba players. To say Kenny wouldnt know what to do with a player with the upside Okafor possesses is laughable. Its what Kenny does best.

If you wanna say Okafor doesn't have what it takes to be an NBA player, that's fine. But to say KA wouldn't know how to approach the situation is asinine.

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