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Re: Celtic's @ Nets 2/8 7:30 

Post#81 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:26 am

MrDollarBills wrote:You quote books written like two years ago and pretend to have an inside track on how these guys think. The situation has changed. You don't know anything that is going on inside of the Nets just like the rest of us do.


You are bringing up a situation from 2 years ago.... im bringing up a book that references that EXACT moment, first hand, from an author who was actually there... quote players who were actually there at the time. there is no more relevant text regarding atkinsons situation then that book.
You continually gas light people on here. Kyrie is absolutely selfish by not getting vaccinated. It is a simple, harmless process that takes less than 2 mins. Saying other wise is the thing that is absurd


No, honestly you are the one gaslighting. im just laying out facts and quotes and reality. you are the one speculating. you are the one projecting hate on to others who have said nothing to that degree and often say the exact opposite of what you are insinuating. by the very definition, you are gaslighting.

There is nothing selfish about him not getting the vaccine. thats his health choice. its his choice to make. its not a basketball decision. he is extremely unlucky that he plays in a city with a mandate. in 46 other states he would be fine. The mandate is also a BS one that allows unvaccinated players to play at barclays, but not him. He handled the entire thing with grace. spoke of no anti-vaxx rhetoric yet you put that on him like he is out there speaking like some trumper. he took the nets decision in stride. he made no gripe and gave no pushback on losing 17 million... these are all facts... not opinions... facts.

You are being selfish. you want other people to change their health decisions so your team can be better.

This situation has gone south and you are in denial


The Kyrie situation is fine and will only get better.

KD got hurt, when the best player in the league gets hurt, your second best player in Harden is also playing hurt and now out hurt... yeah things will go south.

but we still have a great shot at a title. mandate will end. KD will be back. we have more talent then anyone. Nash is all that can hold us back... and he probably will, but its not as doom and gloom as its being made out to be,
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Post#82 » by GYK » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:30 am

This roster. This support cast. It’s bad.
Contending was not the time to cut salary. Nor was it the time to try to make gimmicks work. Every championship team let alone the dynasties would’ve smashed payroll records. Because there’s no dynasties or championship teams without hood role players. This team solely relies on 3 players. The others don’t bring nothing. Considering the 3 they need to bring spacing, defense, rebounding and length. Letting big contracts like Spencer and DJ walk for nothing was ridiculously foolish. They didn’t fit but they could’ve brought back the role players needed to be the team we wanted to be. Not to mention the bizarre build they went for in the off-season. Stretch bigs and rolling/cutting perimeter players is a niche style which one pairing of players could’ve provided but it shouldn’t be our identity. As seen when Blake and Paul became useless it just means a bunch of non shooters surrounding your core.

We have a day and a half. We have to trade this role players and use the TPE’s.
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Post#83 » by Pablo Escobar » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:31 am

MrDollarBills wrote:You don't know this though.

Steph, Klay, and Draymond are all serious about winning and did what they had to do to be available.

Can't say that about Kyrie.


Kd got in his feelings about all the hate he got going to the Warriors. So he left a stable no nonsense team to go play with his bff. Get his buddy Nash to coach and get his other friend dj to become a starter over Allen :lol: and the front office just bent over and said yes to every demand. He brought Harden on board and yet Kd claims that winning titles isn't important :lol: he's my fav player atm but he's a very odd individual and dude just allows Kyrie to run everything and he just follows whatever he says.
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Re: Celtic's @ Nets 2/8 7:30 

Post#84 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:34 am

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Kyrie would be there giving his all if he was allowed to play. once he is he will be


He could have gotten vaccinated like the rest of us who aren't selfish, paranoid conspiracy theorists.


He could have. its his body and his choice. its not a basketball decision. Kyrie has no control over the mandate or a once in a 100 year pandemic.

and the only selfishness is ignorant fans thinking these players owe it to them to change their personal health/family choices so they can be more entertained watching basketball on TV.

If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.
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Post#85 » by Karate Diop » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:35 am

Yeah.. So I'm continuing my boycott until Nash is fired.
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Post#86 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:36 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
He could have gotten vaccinated like the rest of us who aren't selfish, paranoid conspiracy theorists.


He could have. its his body and his choice. its not a basketball decision. Kyrie has no control over the mandate or a once in a 100 year pandemic.

and the only selfishness is ignorant fans thinking these players owe it to them to change their personal health/family choices so they can be more entertained watching basketball on TV.

If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.


Its still america and he still gets to make his own health choices. all of what you said is irrelevant.
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Post#87 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:38 am

God this is a disaster.
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Post#88 » by GTR11 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:46 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
He could have gotten vaccinated like the rest of us who aren't selfish, paranoid conspiracy theorists.


He could have. its his body and his choice. its not a basketball decision. Kyrie has no control over the mandate or a once in a 100 year pandemic.

and the only selfishness is ignorant fans thinking these players owe it to them to change their personal health/family choices so they can be more entertained watching basketball on TV.

If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.

It's not even that. I mean just look at the entire situation. We got people defending narcistic Dunning Kruger while showing their egoistic views.

Paradise blaming Harden for quitting? While defending Kyrie? Is this s*** serious? Dude literally quit on a team before season started, went mia on multiple occasions without notifying anyone, fired coach just because he preached discipline and order, I mean where did I stop with this guy? Harden on the other hand went out on the court hurt giving us all and risking his health last year.

I just can't Fandom how egoistic it is. This is pure egoism 101, I'm not sure what can be worse, because rest of issues come along from it.
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Post#89 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:46 am

MrDollarBills wrote:God this is a disaster.


Not Yet , disaster would be having 8th spot while Nix claim to 10th and get eliminated by them in play ins :lol:
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Post#90 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:50 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:God this is a disaster.


Not Yet , disaster would be having 8th spot while Nix claim to 10th and get eliminated by them in play ins :lol:


Yeah... i think the mood in here will be alot different when we are the 8th seed, win the playgame by 20 and then go up 1-0 on the 1 seed with the big 3 going off.
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Post#91 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:51 am

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Marvin Martian wrote:
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He could have. its his body and his choice. its not a basketball decision. Kyrie has no control over the mandate or a once in a 100 year pandemic.

and the only selfishness is ignorant fans thinking these players owe it to them to change their personal health/family choices so they can be more entertained watching basketball on TV.

If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.

It's not even that. I mean just look at the entire situation. We got people defending narcistic Dunning Kruger while showing their egoistic views.

Paradise blaming Harden for quitting? While defending Kyrie? Is this s*** serious? Dude literally quit on a team before season started, went mia on multiple occasions without notifying anyone, fired coach just because he preached discipline and order, I mean where did I stop with this guy? Harden on the other hand went out on the court hurt giving us all and risking his health last year.

I just can't Fandom how egoistic it is. This is pure egoism 101, I'm not sure what can be worse, because rest of issues come along from it.


The people that defend Kyrie are honestly beyond reasoning because they sympathize with antivax views and conspiracies. I'm about done with all of this.
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Post#92 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:54 am

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Marvin Martian wrote:If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.

It's not even that. I mean just look at the entire situation. We got people defending narcistic Dunning Kruger while showing their egoistic views.

Paradise blaming Harden for quitting? While defending Kyrie? Is this s*** serious? Dude literally quit on a team before season started, went mia on multiple occasions without notifying anyone, fired coach just because he preached discipline and order, I mean where did I stop with this guy? Harden on the other hand went out on the court hurt giving us all and risking his health last year.

I just can't Fandom how egoistic it is. This is pure egoism 101, I'm not sure what can be worse, because rest of issues come along from it.


The people that defend Kyrie are honestly beyond reasoning because they sympathize with antivax views and conspiracies. I'm about done with all of this.


I sympathize with the constitution and freedoms of this country. I got vaccinated with no hesitation... but people have a right to make their own health choices.
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Post#93 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:57 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
GTR11 wrote:It's not even that. I mean just look at the entire situation. We got people defending narcistic Dunning Kruger while showing their egoistic views.

Paradise blaming Harden for quitting? While defending Kyrie? Is this s*** serious? Dude literally quit on a team before season started, went mia on multiple occasions without notifying anyone, fired coach just because he preached discipline and order, I mean where did I stop with this guy? Harden on the other hand went out on the court hurt giving us all and risking his health last year.

I just can't Fandom how egoistic it is. This is pure egoism 101, I'm not sure what can be worse, because rest of issues come along from it.


The people that defend Kyrie are honestly beyond reasoning because they sympathize with antivax views and conspiracies. I'm about done with all of this.


I sympathize with the constitution and freedoms of this country. I got vaccinated with no hesitation... but people have a right to make their own health choices.


The greater good > personal choice. Get vaccinated all of you
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Re: Celtic's @ Nets 2/8 7:30 

Post#94 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:01 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
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The people that defend Kyrie are honestly beyond reasoning because they sympathize with antivax views and conspiracies. I'm about done with all of this.


I sympathize with the constitution and freedoms of this country. I got vaccinated with no hesitation... but people have a right to make their own health choices.


The greater good > personal choice. Get vaccinated all of you


I dont think the greater good has a ton to do with it. the guy has to follow rigorous safety protocols, gets tested multiple times daily and quarantines if he tests positive or contact tracing identifies him.... meanwhile barclays welcomes unvaxxed athletes and performers from out of town into the arena with open arms.
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Post#96 » by NetsJets » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:05 am

I don’t know when we’ll win our next game.
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Post#97 » by LOUiS-D » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:05 am

We're driving on bald tires right now. The longer this streak goes on the uglier the potential wreckage. This is no longer a what doesn't kill you makes you stronger situation.
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Post#98 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:07 am

NetsJets wrote:I don’t know when we’ll win our next game.


Kds 3rd game back, when he is no longer on minutes restriction, its on the road with Kyrie and Harden and we play the pelicans or thunder?
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Post#99 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:12 am

Prokorov wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
He could have. its his body and his choice. its not a basketball decision. Kyrie has no control over the mandate or a once in a 100 year pandemic.

and the only selfishness is ignorant fans thinking these players owe it to them to change their personal health/family choices so they can be more entertained watching basketball on TV.

If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.


Its still america and he still gets to make his own health choices. all of what you said is irrelevant.


Except that this is not a health choice. Considering Irving's fitness level is at top 1% of the world and that he has access to best doctors money can buy, he is going to be healthy regardless of his vaccination status.
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Post#100 » by Prokorov » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:21 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
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Marvin Martian wrote:If the issue is regarding health, then Kyrie has no concerns getting vaccinated because he has access to the best care money can buy. He is not in the same boat as the average NY layman who cannot afford to get treatment, or cannot afford to take days off if anything goes wrong. Not to mention that other people who decided to not get vaccinated are either fired or about to be fired. Kyrie will never have carry that burden because he will still make millions while sitting at home.


Its still america and he still gets to make his own health choices. all of what you said is irrelevant.


Except that this is not a health choice. Considering Irving's fitness level is at top 1% of the world and that he has access to best doctors money can buy, he is going to be healthy regardless of his vaccination status.


It is a health choice. What you put in your body is always a health choice. Risk aversion is also a person decision. We all have our own scale of what we are comfortable with. Eating mean he would be healthy, he doesnt eat meat. eating dairy he would be fine, he doesnt eat dairy. drinking coffee he would be fine, he doesnt drink coffee. Its not just about risk.

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