ImageImageImageImageImage

GT: Nets vs Kings

Moderators: Rich Rane, NyCeEvO

NetsWorld
Starter
Posts: 2,443
And1: 1,034
Joined: Feb 17, 2014

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#81 » by NetsWorld » Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:10 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I turned this off at halftime.

This isn't a championship team with or without Kyrie. It's pointless to argue about it at this stage.

Trade KD and end this



Agreed, this experiment is over. Time to accept that be it the team intervention or league/media intervention, Nets were always getting low balled to rip this team apart at the seams. It truly makes me sad that this team looked ridiculously good two seasons ago only to morph back into the old Nets. Time to rebuild and build future talent and get rid of Management and Tsai sells the team. We need a fresh slate where no one in the media gives this team too much attention.


Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.


You know, it's crazy because the Simmons story is coming out about players being frustrated and the players don't know what's going on with Kyrie. It seems like Kyrie is pulling chess moves of his own and leaking info to Shams.... It's becoming clearer and clearer, day by day. Go back to late October when he tweeted the dumb link, I mentioned HE KNEW WHAT HE was doing; well it should have been clear he may have been looking for a way to take time off by sharing that link knowing the league could take action against him. Now he is using the media against the Nets and playing victim. I don't know, I am starting to believe he shared that link deliberately and wanted to create controversy. Problem is you cannot do that on an NBA platform. He is always looking to create the narrative that he is a martyr.
FREE PALESTINE
User avatar
NyCeEvO
Forum Mod - Nets
Forum Mod - Nets
Posts: 22,057
And1: 6,082
Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#82 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:11 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I turned this off at halftime.

This isn't a championship team with or without Kyrie. It's pointless to argue about it at this stage.

Trade KD and end this



Agreed, this experiment is over. Time to accept that be it the team intervention or league/media intervention, Nets were always getting low balled to rip this team apart at the seams. It truly makes me sad that this team looked ridiculously good two seasons ago only to morph back into the old Nets. Time to rebuild and build future talent and get rid of Management and Tsai sells the team. We need a fresh slate where no one in the media gives this team too much attention.


Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.

One of the ramifications that has come from Kyrie being suspended is the attention that has been drawn towards Tsai and how he has accrued his money and/or stays in power.

Even though calls by NBA fans to look into Tsai instigated have been primarily instigated by those who would like to see retribution against Tsai for suspending Kyrie, nonetheless more and more people are hearing what others are saying and forming an opinion about it.

An even bigger shoe dropped in Jaylen Brown's last media session when he was asked about Tsai and Kyrie's suspension. At one point, he made a comment stating "it's 2022, it doesn't take long for people to find out where team owners make their money." And in response to Tsai's comment that Kyrie has "more work to do," Brown said "everyone has more work to do...Joe Tsai has more work to do."

Regardless of whether one agrees with Jaylen Brown's personal motives or agenda as NBPA VP, the bigger point is that he (and other players) could make this a much bigger issue if they want to. Reading between the lines of Brown's comments, I got the feeling that if Kyrie isn't allowed to resume playing soon, the NBPA will be take more formal measures in seeing that a resolution happens sooner rather than later.

Do not be surprised if Brown and others start becoming more candid with their criticisms of Tsai. If they do, this drama will reach a whole new level.
User avatar
3pt_chucker
Head Coach
Posts: 6,908
And1: 2,003
Joined: Apr 23, 2013
Location: Practicing my 3's
       

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#83 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:28 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Not sure if the team is waiting until December 15th when signed free agents are eligible to be traded but yeah I think blowing up the team is happening soon.

No news on Kyrie. 2 back to back gutless blowouts. This completely unnecessary Ben Simmons leak. Players openly questioning the team about Kyrie.

It's time to pull the plug. This is the 1 year we can get a very good lottery pick. The time is now to rebuild.


I won't hold my breath.

Nets had all off season to TRY and do something about the wing and center depth on this team. Did not bring back Bruce Brown, has 4 players coming off surgery!! and thought that was ok. Saw that Cam, Sharpe and DDJ were mid in Summer League and still didn't do anything.

Heck let's go even further back. Nets could've easily flipped the Philly pick from the Harden trade for someone like Jerami Grant (many of us were calling for this and rumors were KD wanted that move made), instead Marks held onto the pick and the Blazers got him for peanuts. Simmons is also a shell of himself.

Why not go back further, 2 years ago we had 2 FRPs we could've flipped for a legit NBA player. Instead we kept both picks, which is fine but Marks had to nail these picks. Instead we got Cam Thomas, who is years away from being a legit NBA player and Sharpe who is destined for Europe.

Sean Marks did a hell of a job getting the Nets to the point of getting KD, Kyrie but after that he's made a number of horrible moves.

I've lost any faith that he will make the right moves for this team.
User avatar
MrDollarBills
RealGM
Posts: 77,489
And1: 54,351
Joined: Feb 15, 2008
       

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#84 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:20 pm

NetsWorld wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:

Agreed, this experiment is over. Time to accept that be it the team intervention or league/media intervention, Nets were always getting low balled to rip this team apart at the seams. It truly makes me sad that this team looked ridiculously good two seasons ago only to morph back into the old Nets. Time to rebuild and build future talent and get rid of Management and Tsai sells the team. We need a fresh slate where no one in the media gives this team too much attention.


Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.


You know, it's crazy because the Simmons story is coming out about players being frustrated and the players don't know what's going on with Kyrie. It seems like Kyrie is pulling chess moves of his own and leaking info to Shams.... It's becoming clearer and clearer, day by day. Go back to late October when he tweeted the dumb link, I mentioned HE KNEW WHAT HE was doing; well it should have been clear he may have been looking for a way to take time off by sharing that link knowing the league could take action against him. Now he is using the media against the Nets and playing victim. I don't know, I am starting to believe he shared that link deliberately and wanted to create controversy. Problem is you cannot do that on an NBA platform. He is always looking to create the narrative that he is a martyr.


There's an old saying: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I'll stick to that for now regarding Kyrie, but I wouldn't be surprised either if what you said ultimately was true. this entire thing is crazy.
Please consider donating blood: https://www.nybc.org/

2025-2026 Indiana Pacers

C: J. Valanciunas/C. Castleton
PF: K. Kuzma/J. Robinson-Earl
SF: T. Evbuomwan/J. Howard
SG: T. Hardaway Jr./C. Williams
PG: C. Payne/J. Springer
User avatar
MrDollarBills
RealGM
Posts: 77,489
And1: 54,351
Joined: Feb 15, 2008
       

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#85 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:24 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:

Agreed, this experiment is over. Time to accept that be it the team intervention or league/media intervention, Nets were always getting low balled to rip this team apart at the seams. It truly makes me sad that this team looked ridiculously good two seasons ago only to morph back into the old Nets. Time to rebuild and build future talent and get rid of Management and Tsai sells the team. We need a fresh slate where no one in the media gives this team too much attention.


Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.

One of the ramifications that has come from Kyrie being suspended is the attention that has been drawn towards Tsai and how he has accrued his money and/or stays in power.

Even though calls by NBA fans to look into Tsai instigated have been primarily instigated by those who would like to see retribution against Tsai for suspending Kyrie, nonetheless more and more people are hearing what others are saying and forming an opinion about it.

An even bigger shoe dropped in Jaylen Brown's last media session when he was asked about Tsai and Kyrie's suspension. At one point, he made a comment stating "it's 2022, it doesn't take long for people to find out where team owners make their money." And in response to Tsai's comment that Kyrie has "more work to do," Brown said "everyone has more work to do...Joe Tsai has more work to do."

Regardless of whether one agrees with Jaylen Brown's personal motives or agenda as NBPA VP, the bigger point is that he (and other players) could make this a much bigger issue if they want to. Reading between the lines of Brown's comments, I got the feeling that if Kyrie isn't allowed to resume playing soon, the NBPA will be take more formal measures in seeing that a resolution happens sooner rather than later.

Do not be surprised if Brown and others start becoming more candid with their criticisms of Tsai. If they do, this drama will reach a whole new level.


You know what?

Let it happen. It needs to.

This has been a trainwreck ever since Tsai gained 100% control. He needs to go too.

I wonder if Steve Cohen can afford to buy the Nets or put together a group to purchase the team? I like what he's done with the NY Mets.
Please consider donating blood: https://www.nybc.org/

2025-2026 Indiana Pacers

C: J. Valanciunas/C. Castleton
PF: K. Kuzma/J. Robinson-Earl
SF: T. Evbuomwan/J. Howard
SG: T. Hardaway Jr./C. Williams
PG: C. Payne/J. Springer
ArksNetsSince99
General Manager
Posts: 7,889
And1: 7,136
Joined: Apr 10, 2021
 

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#86 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:34 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:

Agreed, this experiment is over. Time to accept that be it the team intervention or league/media intervention, Nets were always getting low balled to rip this team apart at the seams. It truly makes me sad that this team looked ridiculously good two seasons ago only to morph back into the old Nets. Time to rebuild and build future talent and get rid of Management and Tsai sells the team. We need a fresh slate where no one in the media gives this team too much attention.


Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.

One of the ramifications that has come from Kyrie being suspended is the attention that has been drawn towards Tsai and how he has accrued his money and/or stays in power.

Even though calls by NBA fans to look into Tsai instigated have been primarily instigated by those who would like to see retribution against Tsai for suspending Kyrie, nonetheless more and more people are hearing what others are saying and forming an opinion about it.

An even bigger shoe dropped in Jaylen Brown's last media session when he was asked about Tsai and Kyrie's suspension. At one point, he made a comment stating "it's 2022, it doesn't take long for people to find out where team owners make their money." And in response to Tsai's comment that Kyrie has "more work to do," Brown said "everyone has more work to do...Joe Tsai has more work to do."

Regardless of whether one agrees with Jaylen Brown's personal motives or agenda as NBPA VP, the bigger point is that he (and other players) could make this a much bigger issue if they want to. Reading between the lines of Brown's comments, I got the feeling that if Kyrie isn't allowed to resume playing soon, the NBPA will be take more formal measures in seeing that a resolution happens sooner rather than later.

Do not be surprised if Brown and others start becoming more candid with their criticisms of Tsai. If they do, this drama will reach a whole new level.


Silvers playing two sides of the court it’s not gonna work this time

Tsai made costly mistake , he had every right to suspend Kyrie as a team owner , employer

He didn’t had any rights, to act as a **** leader of communist party with his comments

Now with Jalen Brown comments all of a sudden he found a lot of **** on his own plate , I won’t be surprised if he sells the team in a matter of days ( not weeks or months )
ArksNetsSince99
General Manager
Posts: 7,889
And1: 7,136
Joined: Apr 10, 2021
 

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#87 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:41 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Unfortunately Tsai, who is apart of the problem, won't sell.

One of the ramifications that has come from Kyrie being suspended is the attention that has been drawn towards Tsai and how he has accrued his money and/or stays in power.

Even though calls by NBA fans to look into Tsai instigated have been primarily instigated by those who would like to see retribution against Tsai for suspending Kyrie, nonetheless more and more people are hearing what others are saying and forming an opinion about it.

An even bigger shoe dropped in Jaylen Brown's last media session when he was asked about Tsai and Kyrie's suspension. At one point, he made a comment stating "it's 2022, it doesn't take long for people to find out where team owners make their money." And in response to Tsai's comment that Kyrie has "more work to do," Brown said "everyone has more work to do...Joe Tsai has more work to do."

Regardless of whether one agrees with Jaylen Brown's personal motives or agenda as NBPA VP, the bigger point is that he (and other players) could make this a much bigger issue if they want to. Reading between the lines of Brown's comments, I got the feeling that if Kyrie isn't allowed to resume playing soon, the NBPA will be take more formal measures in seeing that a resolution happens sooner rather than later.

Do not be surprised if Brown and others start becoming more candid with their criticisms of Tsai. If they do, this drama will reach a whole new level.


You know what?

Let it happen. It needs to.

This has been a trainwreck ever since Tsai gained 100% control. He needs to go too.

I wonder if Steve Cohen can afford to buy the Nets or put together a group to purchase the team? I like what he's done with the NY Mets.


I hope he sells , building thru the draft is long grueling process and usually doesn’t work unless you draft ( Duncan’s , LeBrons , ) and I can assure you , Nets under his ownership is dead last in entire league considering acquiring high profile free agents, this bridge is burned by Tsai , He was right about suspending Kyrie at first , he just went with this a little bit to far and it backfired
User avatar
MrDollarBills
RealGM
Posts: 77,489
And1: 54,351
Joined: Feb 15, 2008
       

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#88 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:31 pm

I just saw what KD said last night about who he's playing with.

Trade the guy. This situation isn't going anywhere. It's not like he's wrong.
Please consider donating blood: https://www.nybc.org/

2025-2026 Indiana Pacers

C: J. Valanciunas/C. Castleton
PF: K. Kuzma/J. Robinson-Earl
SF: T. Evbuomwan/J. Howard
SG: T. Hardaway Jr./C. Williams
PG: C. Payne/J. Springer
Shark
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,829
And1: 983
Joined: Dec 22, 2010
       

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#89 » by Shark » Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:05 pm

Yeah we just need to blow it up already. Muddling around like we have is pointless for all sides. All of this really should have happened in the summer.
TheNetsFan
Head Coach
Posts: 7,424
And1: 2,823
Joined: Feb 11, 2007
   

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#90 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:31 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I just saw what KD said last night about who he's playing with.

Trade the guy. This situation isn't going anywhere. It's not like he's wrong.

That was one relatively small statement in a very positive interview. Of course, social media takes one line out of context & goes viral with it.
Decipher
Analyst
Posts: 3,285
And1: 3,772
Joined: May 13, 2022
 

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#91 » by Decipher » Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:06 am

TheNetsFan wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I just saw what KD said last night about who he's playing with.

Trade the guy. This situation isn't going anywhere. It's not like he's wrong.

That was one relatively small statement in a very positive interview. Of course, social media takes one line out of context & goes viral with it.


And the media took Simmons own words & made it sound as if it was the Nets locker room speaking about him
User avatar
Hello Brooklyn
RealGM
Posts: 17,547
And1: 13,324
Joined: Dec 24, 2012
   

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#92 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:11 am

GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
GTR11 wrote:Problem is, we not better with Kyrie either.

What exactly did Kyrie do to make any legit Nets fan feel confident in him? You know he is major reason we in this shi*. Whether most agree or not, but Harden trade was made because of Kyrie.


Maybe not. He was playing amazing on offense.

And I frankly think this stupid post he mad deserved a 2-3 game suspension max. The media overreacted like crazy.

Joe Tsai is literally helping facilitiate the genocide of Muslim in China and hes clutching his pearls about a movie Kyrie posted.

What Muslim genocide? I need to see evidence, concrete videos where they execute entire Muslim population.

I stopped believing USA propaganda after Iraq War.

Back to kyrie. What exactly makes you think he can and will improve this team? We didn't even go two weeks into this season before he started his shenanigans again. You think he didn't know Nets get sponsored by Jewish companies? You really think he thought that movie won't bring no impact? After all the protest it made since published? You can consider me skeptical, I know exactly what Kyrie wanted to do, guess what, he achieved it.

You think this off-season has nothing to do with Kyrie? You no he did opt out and looked for teams to pay him right?


Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.
GTR11
RealGM
Posts: 10,310
And1: 2,847
Joined: Jan 17, 2019

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#93 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:20 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Maybe not. He was playing amazing on offense.

And I frankly think this stupid post he mad deserved a 2-3 game suspension max. The media overreacted like crazy.

Joe Tsai is literally helping facilitiate the genocide of Muslim in China and hes clutching his pearls about a movie Kyrie posted.

What Muslim genocide? I need to see evidence, concrete videos where they execute entire Muslim population.

I stopped believing USA propaganda after Iraq War.

Back to kyrie. What exactly makes you think he can and will improve this team? We didn't even go two weeks into this season before he started his shenanigans again. You think he didn't know Nets get sponsored by Jewish companies? You really think he thought that movie won't bring no impact? After all the protest it made since published? You can consider me skeptical, I know exactly what Kyrie wanted to do, guess what, he achieved it.

You think this off-season has nothing to do with Kyrie? You no he did opt out and looked for teams to pay him right?


Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.
GTR11
RealGM
Posts: 10,310
And1: 2,847
Joined: Jan 17, 2019

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#94 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
About this particular game ? Sure , because he is AWAY FROM THE TEAM , what’s so hard to understand ?

He’s been out two weeks , not near the team , he doesn’t had any influence about how this game was played , scouted , prepared for , NONE , ZERO , NADA

Do I have to explain this to you on apples ?

So he's not the reason why D'Antoni and Ime left and Harden forced his way out. Kenny? Steve Nash hire that led to JV? You do understand that this is over 70m in cap space that provide jack shi* because of him?

You really think this game has nothing to do with what Kyrie has done? You really need to step back and look at entire picture few times and what really happened.

I can show you what happens when team has no issue player like Kyrie.



All of this it’s just a theory that you believe in , is it true ? most likely not , could part of it could be true ? most likely
We don’t know the reasons for DAntoni leaving, it was never talked publicly, could be Kyrie , could be Nash or other factors ( health , pride , etc )

Ime went for head coaching gig , anybody in his shoes would’ve done it the same

Harden ? He said after arriving in Philly that it was always his first choice , no word about Kyrie or other explanation, ( I’m glad he went away , straight Up Bum , not anywhere close to max player )

Nash hire ? I Blame Marks here , huge mistake ( you don’t believe that Kyrie went to Marks and required Nash to be hired , do you ?

You blame Kyrie for Vaughn hire as well?

Finally Kenny , yes here I suspect Kyrie along with Durant might have an inside in firing Kenny , but again is 50-50 shot , not documented, not talked about in details in any credible outlet

So , I’m Not Kyrie apologist or die hard fan like you’re compared me to ( trumpist ) Kyrie have a lot of his faults in all this cluster **** , vaccines status , zoom disappearances, bubble absence , now this instagram link , I get it all

But on this trajectory people soon gonna start blaming Kyrie for , Ukrainian War , Global warming and god knows what other ****

All this 7 points outlined for him is ridiculous and in some way degrading ( remember he never said he was antisemitic towards any race or religion) he did stupid **** , he should’ve been banned for 3-5 games without pay , end of story

If he does it gain he should be banned for a season or in this case his career

If you really believe in that taram taram you just posted, I got few bridges to sell you. Yes Kyrie was direct reason for Nash hire. Because of him Kenny got fired, you know why he called for his head? Kenny has system that needs discipline, and Kyrie is everything else but discipline, he is antonym of it. Rest is chain reaction that he has influenced too.
User avatar
Hello Brooklyn
RealGM
Posts: 17,547
And1: 13,324
Joined: Dec 24, 2012
   

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#95 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:57 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
GTR11 wrote:What Muslim genocide? I need to see evidence, concrete videos where they execute entire Muslim population.

I stopped believing USA propaganda after Iraq War.

Back to kyrie. What exactly makes you think he can and will improve this team? We didn't even go two weeks into this season before he started his shenanigans again. You think he didn't know Nets get sponsored by Jewish companies? You really think he thought that movie won't bring no impact? After all the protest it made since published? You can consider me skeptical, I know exactly what Kyrie wanted to do, guess what, he achieved it.

You think this off-season has nothing to do with Kyrie? You no he did opt out and looked for teams to pay him right?


Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.


Bro I'm not getting into genocide denial with you right now. Nor am I listening to your bull conspiracy theories.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence on what China is doing to Muslims over there.

If you wanna be the Kyrie of this forum go ahead.
GTR11
RealGM
Posts: 10,310
And1: 2,847
Joined: Jan 17, 2019

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#96 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:38 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.


Bro I'm not getting into genocide denial with you right now. Nor am I listening to your bull conspiracy theories.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence on what China is doing to Muslims over there.

If you wanna be the Kyrie of this forum go ahead.

What you doing is, being misinformed Corporate propaganda victim. This is not place to be debating this subject. If you want to take it to another place, I got more than enough documented data to prove otherwise. I can tell you names of these corporations that order such subjects and during what times. That's why I said check Sabby Sabs, she did good job breaking how Corporate Hits work and why.
Heezzi
Pro Prospect
Posts: 905
And1: 272
Joined: Nov 19, 2008

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#97 » by Heezzi » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:47 pm

GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
GTR11 wrote:What Muslim genocide? I need to see evidence, concrete videos where they execute entire Muslim population.

I stopped believing USA propaganda after Iraq War.

Back to kyrie. What exactly makes you think he can and will improve this team? We didn't even go two weeks into this season before he started his shenanigans again. You think he didn't know Nets get sponsored by Jewish companies? You really think he thought that movie won't bring no impact? After all the protest it made since published? You can consider me skeptical, I know exactly what Kyrie wanted to do, guess what, he achieved it.

You think this off-season has nothing to do with Kyrie? You no he did opt out and looked for teams to pay him right?


Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.

The Kazakh Muslims detained in China's camps

Since 2017, thousands of Kazakh Muslims have been detained in China’s infamous re-education camps. Survivors who have returned to Kazakhstan, say during months of incarceration they were tortured, beaten and received unknown injections.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51097159

Uzbekistan resists as U.S. seeks to rally Central Asians against China
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uzbekistan-usa-china-rights-idUSKBN1ZX1HQ

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/2/24/why-are-central-asian-countries-so-quiet-on-uighur-persecution
ArksNetsSince99
General Manager
Posts: 7,889
And1: 7,136
Joined: Apr 10, 2021
 

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#98 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:04 pm

GTR11 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:So he's not the reason why D'Antoni and Ime left and Harden forced his way out. Kenny? Steve Nash hire that led to JV? You do understand that this is over 70m in cap space that provide jack shi* because of him?

You really think this game has nothing to do with what Kyrie has done? You really need to step back and look at entire picture few times and what really happened.

I can show you what happens when team has no issue player like Kyrie.



All of this it’s just a theory that you believe in , is it true ? most likely not , could part of it could be true ? most likely
We don’t know the reasons for DAntoni leaving, it was never talked publicly, could be Kyrie , could be Nash or other factors ( health , pride , etc )

Ime went for head coaching gig , anybody in his shoes would’ve done it the same

Harden ? He said after arriving in Philly that it was always his first choice , no word about Kyrie or other explanation, ( I’m glad he went away , straight Up Bum , not anywhere close to max player )

Nash hire ? I Blame Marks here , huge mistake ( you don’t believe that Kyrie went to Marks and required Nash to be hired , do you ?

You blame Kyrie for Vaughn hire as well?

Finally Kenny , yes here I suspect Kyrie along with Durant might have an inside in firing Kenny , but again is 50-50 shot , not documented, not talked about in details in any credible outlet

So , I’m Not Kyrie apologist or die hard fan like you’re compared me to ( trumpist ) Kyrie have a lot of his faults in all this cluster **** , vaccines status , zoom disappearances, bubble absence , now this instagram link , I get it all

But on this trajectory people soon gonna start blaming Kyrie for , Ukrainian War , Global warming and god knows what other ****

All this 7 points outlined for him is ridiculous and in some way degrading ( remember he never said he was antisemitic towards any race or religion) he did stupid **** , he should’ve been banned for 3-5 games without pay , end of story

If he does it gain he should be banned for a season or in this case his career

If you really believe in that taram taram you just posted, I got few bridges to sell you. Yes Kyrie was direct reason for Nash hire. Because of him Kenny got fired, you know why he called for his head? Kenny has system that needs discipline, and Kyrie is everything else but discipline, he is antonym of it. Rest is chain reaction that he has influenced too.


You do YOU , your hate thing Taram Taram
ArksNetsSince99
General Manager
Posts: 7,889
And1: 7,136
Joined: Apr 10, 2021
 

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#99 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:08 pm

Heezzi wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.

The Kazakh Muslims detained in China's camps

Since 2017, thousands of Kazakh Muslims have been detained in China’s infamous re-education camps. Survivors who have returned to Kazakhstan, say during months of incarceration they were tortured, beaten and received unknown injections.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51097159

Uzbekistan resists as U.S. seeks to rally Central Asians against China
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uzbekistan-usa-china-rights-idUSKBN1ZX1HQ

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/2/24/why-are-central-asian-countries-so-quiet-on-uighur-persecution


Don’t even try to explain to him , he can’t see a **** from behind the bridges he trying to sell at all times :lol: :lol:
GTR11
RealGM
Posts: 10,310
And1: 2,847
Joined: Jan 17, 2019

Re: GT: Nets vs Kings 

Post#100 » by GTR11 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:03 pm

Heezzi wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Its not the US that is accusing China of doing this. Its the entire world.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights

I know hes a great offensive player. Something we completely lack right now.

We obviously suck without him. So whats the downside exactly?

Yes it was a dumb post. But hes paid a price for. Time to move on.

Or blow it up! I don't care anymore.

estimated eight hundred thousand to two million Uyghurs and other Muslims, including ethnic Kazakhs and Uzbeks, have been detained since 2017, according to international researchers and U.S. government officials [PDF].


Entire world you say?

Where is Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan officials talking about it? Show me one?

I can show you hundreds of similar reports about Hong Kong. There's still concentration camps there?

You need to educate yourself and learn what is political propaganda and how not to get fooled. I suggest listening to Sabby Sabs aka Sabrina Salvati, than move to more detailed experts reporters that be on her show.

The Kazakh Muslims detained in China's camps

Since 2017, thousands of Kazakh Muslims have been detained in China’s infamous re-education camps. Survivors who have returned to Kazakhstan, say during months of incarceration they were tortured, beaten and received unknown injections.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51097159

Uzbekistan resists as U.S. seeks to rally Central Asians against China
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uzbekistan-usa-china-rights-idUSKBN1ZX1HQ

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2020/2/24/why-are-central-asian-countries-so-quiet-on-uighur-persecution

“We want to see Central Asia as a region of stable development, prosperity and cooperation, and we would really not like to feel on ourselves unfavorable political consequences in relation to some competition in our region between large powers,” Uzbek Foreign Minister Abdulaziz Kamilov said.


Where exactly did any of the central asian countries officials said Muslim population being tortured again?

I like this piece here the most

Pompeo’s comments put the region’s governments in an awkward position as they rely on China for much of their foreign trade and investment.

Speaking on a visit to the Uzbek capital, Tashkent, Pompeo said he would raise the Uighur issue with counterparts from all five ex-Soviet Central Asian nations - Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan.


So in other words, he going to apply pressure on them if they won't comply.

You know we had air basis in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan right. Now pull me the reason why they asked USA to leave.

Not one of your articles shows quotes of any officials central asians saying China committed/committing genocide of muslim population.

Now give us all a favor and pull Kazakh, Uzbek etc countries officials saying how important Chinese investments to that region. From their local newspapers and not Corporate ran propoganda that serve interest of select few oligarchy.

Google translate is your help.

As a muslim myself, I did lot's of research on China and it's muslims.

Return to Brooklyn Nets