GT: Nets vs Lakers 1/30 - 7:30

[GTR11]

I didn't even look at stats yet, I bet Fakers shot less than 20%. My eye test says they didn't even go over 10. They only made few in a 3rd

[Hello Brooklyn]

Terrible 3rd but we regrouped well. Thank God for Westbrick

[Stone]

Day’Ron had 8 offensive rebounds, definitely a difference maker tonight

[NetsWorld]

Best part about the W was Philly lost

[NetsWorld]

Day’Ron had 8 offensive rebounds, definitely a difference maker tonight

He needs to get some burn. As much as I like him, I still want a stretch big. Naz Reid’s ceiling is higher.

[Papi_swav]

Good that we won, that 3rd quarter was giving me a headache, it should of never got that close. But we did what we had to do, I just don't like that we have to always count on Kyrie so heavily even when we're playing 3rd stringers. Cam gave us a huge boost and so did Patty. Sharpe and Yuta had solid games as well.

This is what Vaughn needs to do when our core guys are struggling. Guys like Seph Curry and Joe Harris are too hot and cold, so when they're not hitting shots just put in Patty and/or Cam. At least we know Cam can get buckets and dribble into the paint. I'm still waiting on Vaughn to give Kessler Edwards and Duke some minutes, I feel like they can help especially in a game like today when we're playing against 3rd stringers. Glad we won because Celtics will be tough.

[sashaturiaf]

Sharpe can play as long as the other team doesn't have a guard who can shoot, yeah so he's not going to play at all in the playoffs.

We still need a backup big in the worst way.

[sashaturiaf]

Good that we won, that 3rd quarter was giving me a headache, it should of never got that close. But we did what we had to do, I just don't like that we have to always count on Kyrie so heavily even when we're playing 3rd stringers. Cam gave us a huge boost and so did Patty. Sharpe and Yuta had solid games as well.

This is what Vaughn needs to do when our core guys are struggling. Guys like Seph Curry and Joe Harris are too hot and cold, so when they're not hitting shots just put in Patty and/or Cam. At least we know Cam can get buckets and dribble into the paint. I'm still waiting on Vaughn to give Kessler Edwards and Duke some minutes, I feel like they can help especially in a game like today when we're playing against 3rd stringers. Glad we won because Celtics will be tough.

I'd shop Seth to every team in the league, we need to get some value for him before he expires.

We know that Seth, Joe and Patty can't play together. Out of those 3 I'd rather Joe and Patty play and Seth is the odd guy out, Joe offers some real size on defense and Patty's energy is infectious

[Karate Diop]

I know the consensus is to trade Cam... But I really want to keep him to see how he develops.

His body seems to have improved significantly from Year 1 and he's generally making better reads when he's out there. If he has a game slows down moment there could be some sneaky good value there...

[Papi_swav]

Good that we won, that 3rd quarter was giving me a headache, it should of never got that close. But we did what we had to do, I just don't like that we have to always count on Kyrie so heavily even when we're playing 3rd stringers. Cam gave us a huge boost and so did Patty. Sharpe and Yuta had solid games as well.

This is what Vaughn needs to do when our core guys are struggling. Guys like Seph Curry and Joe Harris are too hot and cold, so when they're not hitting shots just put in Patty and/or Cam. At least we know Cam can get buckets and dribble into the paint. I'm still waiting on Vaughn to give Kessler Edwards and Duke some minutes, I feel like they can help especially in a game like today when we're playing against 3rd stringers. Glad we won because Celtics will be tough.

I'd shop Seth to every team in the league, we need to get some value for him before he expires.

We know that Seth, Joe and Patty can't play together. Out of those 3 I'd rather Joe and Patty play and Seth is the odd guy out, Joe offers some real size on defense and Patty's energy is infectious

One of those guys got to go because they all do the same thing pretty much. I think I'd rather trade Joe because he's way overpaid and we can probably get somebody solid with his 20M contract. Joe is way too shaky, it's like he panics when the ball is in his hands and we've seen him in the playoffs, he's a choker.

And idk what you're seeing but his defense is atrocious, his foot speed is way too slow and he constantly gives up AND1s. Curry is very streaky, but when his shot is on he can drop 30 pts for us and he's done it multiple times this season. And Curry can dribble and pull up for a mid range shot. Joe gives us absolutely nothing if his 3 isn't falling. Before his injury, he was very good taking it up at the rim but he's so scared to do that now.

[JoseRizal]

These type of games is when Cam really shines. He needs to play more, especially when Kai is resting.

[sashaturiaf]

Good that we won, that 3rd quarter was giving me a headache, it should of never got that close. But we did what we had to do, I just don't like that we have to always count on Kyrie so heavily even when we're playing 3rd stringers. Cam gave us a huge boost and so did Patty. Sharpe and Yuta had solid games as well.

This is what Vaughn needs to do when our core guys are struggling. Guys like Seph Curry and Joe Harris are too hot and cold, so when they're not hitting shots just put in Patty and/or Cam. At least we know Cam can get buckets and dribble into the paint. I'm still waiting on Vaughn to give Kessler Edwards and Duke some minutes, I feel like they can help especially in a game like today when we're playing against 3rd stringers. Glad we won because Celtics will be tough.

I'd shop Seth to every team in the league, we need to get some value for him before he expires.

We know that Seth, Joe and Patty can't play together. Out of those 3 I'd rather Joe and Patty play and Seth is the odd guy out, Joe offers some real size on defense and Patty's energy is infectious

One of those guys got to go because they all do the same thing pretty much. I think I'd rather trade Joe because he's way overpaid and we can probably get somebody solid with his 20M contract. Joe is way too shaky, it's like he panics when the ball is in his hands and we've seen him in the playoffs, he's a choker.

And idk what you're seeing but his defense is atrocious, his foot speed is way too slow and he constantly gives up AND1s. Curry is very streaky, but when his shot is on he can drop 30 pts for us and he's done it multiple times this season. And Curry can dribble and pull up for a mid range shot. Joe gives us absolutely nothing if his 3 isn't falling. Before his injury, he was very good taking it up at the rim but he's so scared to do that now.

Joe's no stopper but he's at least something of a deterrent, guys see Seth and just attack him like he's not even there. For all his strengths he's a bottom 10 defender in the NBA. Having said that I don't trust Joe in the playoffs at all, much rather Patty take the shot instead.

Reason why I advocate trading Seth instead of Joe is that Joe will be a huge expiring next season whereas Seth is gone after this season, we're over the cap and have to maximise any assets we have. Of course if Joe's contract brings us an impact player like Myles Turner this season that's a different story, but Seth's deal should be able to get us a contributing player in return. We need size, athleticism and physicality and that's what I want in return.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Sharpe can play as long as the other team doesn't have a guard who can shoot, yeah so he's not going to play at all in the playoffs.

We still need a backup big in the worst way.

How many bigs exactly can guard guards?

Gobert routinely got exposed for this in the playoffs.

Hes a goo rebounder which is basically what you need in a big man.

If we need to go small there are no shortage of options of the Nets.

[sashaturiaf]

Sharpe can play as long as the other team doesn't have a guard who can shoot, yeah so he's not going to play at all in the playoffs.

We still need a backup big in the worst way.

How many bigs exactly can guard guards?

Gobert routinely got exposed for this in the playoffs.

Hes a goo rebounder which is basically what you need in a big man.

If we need to go small there are no shortage of options of the Nets.

Come on bro Gobert and Sharpe have nothing in common other than their height. if Sharpe was 1/10th the player Gobert is we wouldn't be having these backup 5 discussions in the first place.

Gobert shuts down 1-5 pick and rolls by himself, there's a reason a team just gave up 5 first round picks for him. And Gobert did not get exposed in the playoffs the other team simply schemed for him to guard off-ball instead as one man can't guard an entire team. Imagine if we had that, teams scheme to get Gobert off the ball to be guarded by KD and Ben instead, nobody would be able to score against us.

[Papi_swav]

I'd shop Seth to every team in the league, we need to get some value for him before he expires.

We know that Seth, Joe and Patty can't play together. Out of those 3 I'd rather Joe and Patty play and Seth is the odd guy out, Joe offers some real size on defense and Patty's energy is infectious

One of those guys got to go because they all do the same thing pretty much. I think I'd rather trade Joe because he's way overpaid and we can probably get somebody solid with his 20M contract. Joe is way too shaky, it's like he panics when the ball is in his hands and we've seen him in the playoffs, he's a choker.

And idk what you're seeing but his defense is atrocious, his foot speed is way too slow and he constantly gives up AND1s. Curry is very streaky, but when his shot is on he can drop 30 pts for us and he's done it multiple times this season. And Curry can dribble and pull up for a mid range shot. Joe gives us absolutely nothing if his 3 isn't falling. Before his injury, he was very good taking it up at the rim but he's so scared to do that now.

Joe's no stopper but he's at least something of a deterrent, guys see Seth and just attack him like he's not even there. For all his strengths he's a bottom 10 defender in the NBA. Having said that I don't trust Joe in the playoffs at all, much rather Patty take the shot instead.

Reason why I advocate trading Seth instead of Joe is that Joe will be a huge expiring next season whereas Seth is gone after this season, we're over the cap and have to maximise any assets we have. Of course if Joe's contract brings us an impact player like Myles Turner this season that's a different story, but Seth's deal should be able to get us a contributing player in return. We need size, athleticism and physicality and that's what I want in return.

You're not wrong, it all depends what Nets can get for either guy. But we definitely need another 2 way player and a backup 5.

[MrDollarBills]

Cam really stepped up tonight. I wish he could maintain this kind of consistency

[Sharcm1]

I know the consensus is to trade Cam... But I really want to keep him to see how he develops.

His body seems to have improved significantly from Year 1 and he's generally making better reads when he's out there. If he has a game slows down moment there could be some sneaky good value there...

He’s not going to develop here sitting on the bench.

[sashaturiaf]

Cam really stepped up tonight. I wish he could maintain this kind of consistency

Hard to develop any consistency when coach is firmly riding the hot hand when it comes to dishing out minutes to the bench guys. Out of our guards only Kyrie and Seth are guaranteed minutes, Patty, Sumner and Cam just take what is available depending on the matchup.

Like we all been saying Marks needs to convert one of our shooters into a backup 5, it'll smooth out our backcourt rotation as well as stop us needing to play Sharpe and Morris unless in case of emergency. I think Cam can be a valuable player if you give him a clearly defined role, right now he's not being put in a position to succeed and it's a pretty clear misuse of talent.

[MrDollarBills]

Cam really stepped up tonight. I wish he could maintain this kind of consistency

Hard to develop any consistency when coach is firmly riding the hot hand when it comes to dishing out minutes to the bench guys. Out of our guards only Kyrie and Seth are guaranteed minutes, Patty, Sumner and Cam just take what is available depending on the matchup.

Like we all been saying Marks needs to convert one of our shooters into a backup 5, it'll smooth out our backcourt rotation as well as stop us needing to play Sharpe and Morris unless in case of emergency. I think Cam can be a valuable player if you give him a clearly defined role, right now he's not being put in a position to succeed and it's a pretty clear misuse of talent.

That's my thing...it's hard to grade Cam. Like, when he's on the money like last night, he's a massive plus. But when he's not, and statistically we know this to be true, he's a net negative. However, this season, he's shooting 43%FG, 38%3PT and has been pretty efficient when he has gotten minutes the last few games.

The log jam is on Marks, not Vaughn though. It's hard to justify bumping anyone out of the line up when we're all healthy. We need to flip either Seth or Joe for a back up C and that should open up the door for Cam, but I imagine any trade discussions will have to involve Cam since he's the only asset on a rookie contract that has some value.

[TheNetsFan]

Cam really stepped up tonight. I wish he could maintain this kind of consistency

Hard to develop any consistency when coach is firmly riding the hot hand when it comes to dishing out minutes to the bench guys. Out of our guards only Kyrie and Seth are guaranteed minutes, Patty, Sumner and Cam just take what is available depending on the matchup.

Like we all been saying Marks needs to convert one of our shooters into a backup 5, it'll smooth out our backcourt rotation as well as stop us needing to play Sharpe and Morris unless in case of emergency. I think Cam can be a valuable player if you give him a clearly defined role, right now he's not being put in a position to succeed and it's a pretty clear misuse of talent.

That's my thing...it's hard to grade Cam. Like, when he's on the money like last night, he's a massive plus. But when he's not, and statistically we know this to be true, he's a net negative. However, this season, he's shooting 43%FG, 38%3PT and has been pretty efficient when he has gotten minutes the last few games.

The log jam is on Marks, not Vaughn though. It's hard to justify bumping anyone out of the line up when we're all healthy. We need to flip either Seth or Joe for a back up C and that should open up the door for Cam, but I imagine any trade discussions will have to involve Cam since he's the only asset on a rookie contract that has some value.

I hate the idea of moving Joe for a backup C, because that makes the backcourt even smaller. We can't get away with continuing to play Kyrie+Seth together.