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Re: GT: Nets vs Twolves. 3/10 at 8 pm 

Post#81 » by bwgood77 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:04 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
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He might easily end up as an overpay especially since he turned down a contract that's almost similar to Mikal.


I always thought he should get like 4/$60. It might be beneficial that he had an injury this year and isn't playing quite as well yet upon return to get a better contract if you keep him. There was rumor the Suns didn't extend him at what he wanted because they were a little worried about how injury prone he was. I think if he stays healthy he'd be worth a contract in the $15-$17 million per year range. I also think some team that needs shooting may want him and you could potentially work out a S&T and at least get something back, even if it's not much.

The Suns offered him 4/$72 and he turned it down.


I know, but that's before he got injured and was out for much of the season. And he hasn't played particularly well. It may have been a mistake not to take that. But, shooters are valuable, so we will see.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Twolves. 3/10 at 8 pm 

Post#82 » by ChuckS » Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:42 pm

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Dinwiddie is much more Harden than Kyrie with his ball dominance, only he doesn't have Harden's prodigious vision and playmaking ability. Mavs had Din in the right role as the 6th man, he should not be closing games as the lead ballhandler.


should kind of has nothing to do with it - if not him then who else?

in the offseason 100% it's a spot they should look to upgrade, but they traded for dinwiddie to replace what they had in kyrie, and honestly kyrie's biggest weakness was the same as dinwiddie and maybe even worse in terms of playmaking, he was just a better pure scorer. with either of them the end of game was going to run through KD.

this year turned into a year to try to make chicken salad out of you know what, and honestly that's what they've done the last week. hats off to JV, marks nabbing bridges, and even dinwiddie for playing what i thought was his best game as a net probably ever. he made big plays on defense against edwards, he attacked the rim to both score and distribute, and ultimately made the plays in OT on the road to win the game.



Your first sentence says it all.

I suppose although misleading it is technically correct, to say that Din is closer to Harden than Kyrie regarding ball dominance. Kyrie is 15th in the league with a 28.9 useage rate, James 69th at 24.9, and Spencer 102d at 22.2. For context, Cam T as a sub is 26.5. And while it is true he doesn't have Harden's "prodigious vision", that is far from saying Din's is bad. James has adapted to us and Philly and is averaging 10.8 assists per game. He has a career average of 7. Dinwidde has also adapted. He is averaging 6.9 assists for us, up from his 5.3 with Dallas, which is what Kyrie had with us.

What is outright wrong is that Dinwiddie was a sixth man with the Mavs. He started 53 games with them this year. And the implication that he is not a starting caliber point guard is belied by Hollinger's rating him 19th in the league by PER. Since that is primarily a measure of offense, if Marks thinks we need more than his 18PPG at the position then, by all means, have him find someone else. Based on our recent history, however, I've appreciated someone controlling the ball with a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio.

But I digress. Back to your post. Dinwiddie is what we have right now and there is no feasible onboard option. I see him as one of the two most valuable players on the team, and their minutes suggest that so does does JV. I believe he might be being denigrated because of end of game time management decisions, decided above his pay grade. All in all, and admitting "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", I think he is the least of our immediate concerns.

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