All Things "Brooklyn Nets" Thread

Keith Van Horn · Post #821 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:35 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Blatche - Camp down low loves da hoes

ahahaha!

can I use this?

therealbig3 · Post #822 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 8:04 am

Can we please stop the Knicks from getting K-Mart...by signing him ourselves?

N Ireland Nets · Post #823 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:49 pm

macgyver893 wrote:
N Ireland Nets wrote:Blatche - Camp down low loves da hoes

ahahaha!

can I use this?

Yes sure fire away

rj2496 · Post #824 » by **rj2496** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:33 pm

Man, this video has me in tears! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... uJEZohJk18

Harper4Ferry? · Post #825 » by **Harper4Ferry?** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:13 pm

With the Kings moving to Seattle, do you think that Brooklyn would buy the Kings nickname? I see there's some minor league team with that name already, but I think it would really complete the rebranding.

jeff1624 · Post #826 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:26 pm

No chance they ever change it to Kings. Why would they?

N Ireland Nets · Post #827 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:29 pm

Random comment, I believe Joe Johnson, mainly due to his contract and lack of 'flash' has become underrated. I mean we're 13.5 points per 100 off possessions better off when he's on the floor and I think he is quietly having a good season.

Again, I think his defence is underrated as well. I don't have any stats on his defensive side but he seems to defend his position well and I rarely remember many SG's going off on us. I'd say for instance he win's his personally battle versus the opposition SG nightly.

I'm starting to think people overrate Wallace's defence, again this is my own opinion with zero stats to back it up.

MGrand15 · Post #828 » by **MGrand15** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:53 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Random comment, I believe Joe Johnson, mainly due to his contract and lack of 'flash' has become underrated. I mean we're 13.5 points per 100 off possessions better off when he's on the floor and I think he is quietly having a good season.

Again, I think his defence is underrated as well. I don't have any stats on his defensive side but he seems to defend his position well and I rarely remember many SG's going off on us. I'd say for instance he win's his personally battle versus the opposition SG nightly.

I'm starting to think people overrate Wallace's defence, again this is my own opinion with zero stats to back it up.

I agree with both your statements. JJ is as solid as they get - I wish he had a couple more nights where he went off for 30, 40+ and he used his size and creativity to get to the line (like Pierce does) but he's been really solid this year. Hitting 3s, scoring in isolation when we have nothing going on, making plays for his teammates, defending 2s and 3s. I love his floater too. His defense is very underrated because he doesn't really block shots or get steals or hustle all of the place. He just uses his size and defends his man. No dumb fouls, no incredibly easy buckets.

I don't know if Crash's defense is overrated BUT when he has an easy matchup (non star) or he's guarding a shooter, he tends to float and gamble too much, giving up open 3s/jump shots. He's all over the place though, so we he's having a good defensive night - EVERYONE notices since he's flying around blocking shots, destroying PnRs, causing TOs.

My random thought - Marshon is up to over 50% from the field on the year. In the last 3 games, he's shooting 13 for 25, 7 for 7 from the line, 7 assists with only 3 TOs. As long as he's not the only offensive option on the floor, he normally cuts out the non-sense and moves the ball. I really want to see PJ keep developing him. He's not good on defense but we need to find ways to hide him with good team defense. We don't need 5 great defenders in every line up. He was one of the best spot up shooters in college so if he could get his 3PT% back to normal, he could be a major weapon for us off the bench + he could get JJ some more rest.

JMaine518 · Post #829 » by **JMaine518** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:03 pm

@BrooklynNets: The Brooklyn Nets have signed forward Damion James (@KONJames10) to a 10-day contract, GM @bkdefend announced today. http://t.co/PiurgTeF

vincecarter4pres · Post #830 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:10 pm

Oh **** me! :lol:

therealbig3 · Post #831 » by **therealbig3** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:38 pm

I'll never understand the obsession that this team has with Damion James.

You have Kenyon Martin just sitting there, waiting for a call from someone, and we sign Damion James to a 10-day contract. The guy who has proven that he can't stay healthy for more than a handful of games, and sucks anyway when he does play. Meanwhile, a PF that plays good defense, which we totally couldn't use, with legitimate playoff experience, with the kind of heart and attitude that this team sorely needs, is ignored.

Good call Billy King.

vincecarter4pres · Post #832 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:54 pm

I don't even see the issue in relation to Kenyon to be honest and only because as of now our big man rotation is solid to where I don't think he brings a ton extra and more so because we are in dire need of a 3 with Wallace on the shelf for an expected extended period.

But Damion James?

I still gave him a shout on Twitter, he seems like a cool enough dude, but he's always injured and yeah, he pretty much sucks.

Why not take a chance on one of the top rated D League 3's?

Or someone who's in Europe like David Lighty?

How about Kris Joseph?

Eh, not the end of the world, but it's still kind of silly. Chances are none of these guys are better then Bogans *shudders* but it would be a nice to take a swing at a home run again instead of signing a guy you know if he works out straight best case and stays healthy is basically a tweener 9th to 10th man while Crash is hurt and basically a non-rotation player once he's back.

Keith Van Horn · Post #833 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:00 pm

It's good to see we're not putting too much stock in having a Bogans/Stackhouse rotation at SF.

deepblueday · Post #834 » by **deepblueday** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:03 pm

its a nothing depth signing hopefully. my mind will explode if we invest minutes in him over toko, who practices well, pretty much always performs in garbage time, and actually has a chance to be something in this league. and really, toko is basically all of damion's size, strength, and hustle, plus he can actually play the game of basketball.

but yeah the minutes will probably just go to bogans, marshon, and stack.

N Ireland Nets · Post #835 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:12 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't even see the issue in relation to Kenyon to be honest and only because as of now our big man rotation is solid to where I don't think he brings a ton extra and more so because we are in dire need of a 3 with Wallace on the shelf for an expected extended period.

But Damion James?

I still gave him a shout on Twitter, he seems like a cool enough dude, but he's always injured and yeah, he pretty much sucks.

Why not take a chance on one of the top rated D League 3's?

Or someone who's in Europe like David Lighty?

How about Kris Joseph?

Eh, not the end of the world, but it's still kind of silly. Chances are none of these guys are better then Bogans *shudders* but it would be a nice to take a swing at a home run again instead of signing a guy you know if he works out straight best case and stays healthy is basically a tweener 9th to 10th man while Crash is hurt and basically a non-rotation player once he's back.

Kris Joseph would've been an interesting signing.

I think they realised Wallace is out for a while and needed someone who could come in and play right away. With James playing for us in the past he should know the terminology of the defence and just be more familiar with things on the team.

It strikes me as just a stop gap. James is some what like Wallace in a sense, can't shoot well, good defender but James is an elite rebounder for his position. He averaged something like 7rpg in 15mins for Atlanta pre season.

vincecarter4pres · Post #836 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:26 pm

Yeah poor man's Shawn Marion was the comparison I used to make for him coming into the draft.

You never know, maybe he sticks?

deepblueday · Post #837 » by **deepblueday** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:51 pm

nah, avery don live here no mo. homeless man with mental problem's shawn marion. he's just a crippling player to have on the floor. he has like half the skill and 1/10 of the pass catching of your typical keith bogans, ronnie brewer type nba defensive scrub.

vincecarter4pres · Post #838 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:49 pm

deepblueday wrote:nah, avery don live here no mo. homeless man with mental problem's shawn marion. he's just a crippling player to have on the floor. he has like half the skill and 1/10 of the pass catching of your typical keith bogans, ronnie brewer type nba defensive scrub.

That's the way it seems to me as well, I'm just trying to have some optimism now that he's back on this team haha.

Paradise · Post #839 » by **Paradise** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:57 pm

therealbig3 wrote:I'll never understand the obsession that this team has with Damion James.

You have Kenyon Martin just sitting there, waiting for a call from someone, and we sign Damion James to a 10-day contract. The guy who has proven that he can't stay healthy for more than a handful of games, and sucks anyway when he does play. Meanwhile, a PF that plays good defense, which we totally couldn't use, with legitimate playoff experience, with the kind of heart and attitude that this team sorely needs, is ignored.

Good call Billy King.

Yeah, this makes no sense but I'm hoping Billy atleast is keeping in contact with Martin and this is a short term, injury move.

It better be.

therealbig3 · Post #840 » by **therealbig3** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:00 pm

Our offensive and defensive numbers since PJ took over:

Offense: 113.9 ORating against an average 105.7 DRating (+8.2)

Defense: 103.9 DRating against an average 103.7 ORating (+0.2)

Super small sample size obviously, but it looks like the defense hasn't really changed, it's been the offense that's exploded. Off the top of my head, a +8.2 offense for an entire season would be the 2nd best offensive team of all time.

During our 6 game winning streak:

Offense: 118.6 ORating against an average 105.2 DRating (+13.4)

Defense: 101.4 DRating against an average 103.1 ORating (-1.7)