Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

[Keith Van Horn]

i find it interesting that not one person here brought the idea bringing CP3 here for our TPE. He is exactly what we need and has build chemistry with Bridges and CamJ. Not going to lie, moving Din for additional pick or two can go a long way for us if we be looking to trade for tier 1A player.

what about for Simmons? would Washington want?

[Netaman]

i find it interesting that not one person here brought the idea bringing CP3 here for our TPE. He is exactly what we
need and has build chemistry with Bridges and CamJ. Not going to lie, moving Din for additional pick or two can go a long way for us if we be looking to trade for tier 1A player.

cp3 needed more of his deal guaranteed to match beal so i dont think he'd fit within the trade exception. he is going to end up on one of the LA teams either via minimum deal on a buyout or trade.

[Tha King]

Royce and 22 can fetch us 12th pick.
DFS and 22 still in play for 10.

Eric is everywhere guessing what's on Marks mind



Honestly I'm not a fan of undersized guards with shaky defense due to size. I'd rather see where Casen Wallace will end up ( here I couldn't wait no more because these guys starting to catch up )

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This kid is Tony Allen/Matisse Thybulle with a jumper. Some compare him to Jrue Holliday. Anyway, he can start from day one along with Ben at the guard and be complete disaster for opposing guards. With Maxey and Brunson being in our division, I would love for Marks to go get him. Royce or DFS with that 22 pick for OKC's 12th is out there for us. Rumer is Masai going to pick him at 13 and they did scouted him hard. Also explains why they letting FVV go.

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Royce & #22 won't get 12. Maybe it gets #17.

DFS at #21 maybe gets you to #10 if you take back Bertans. Maybe. I would not be opposed to grabbing a couple of Memphis future picks for DFS instead given how aggressive they seem.

Wallace has been my trade up draft crush for a long while. Great skill set & easy to fit into any system, plus Kentucky guards seem to really pan out well.

I just don’t get how people can watch both these guys play and value DFS over Royce, both on court and in trade.

And I’m not calling you out specifically at all, but it just boggles my mind.

Both are starter level players on a good roster, but mainly awful when on a mediocre to bad team.

But Royce is much more dynamic and the better shooter.

A lot of people share that opinion though.


I just don’t get it.

Also, if even true, I’d do DFS and the 21 for the 10 and Betrans, and Royce and the 22 for say 15.

I think value difference is because DFS is bigger so he's seen as a more versatile defender and he has a few more years on a very good contract.

They are about the same level imo as you're right Royce is more dynamic offensively while I think DFS is the slightly better perimeter defender.

[TheNetsFan]

Royce & #22 won't get 12. Maybe it gets #17.

DFS at #21 maybe gets you to #10 if you take back Bertans. Maybe. I would not be opposed to grabbing a couple of Memphis future picks for DFS instead given how aggressive they seem.

Wallace has been my trade up draft crush for a long while. Great skill set & easy to fit into any system, plus Kentucky guards seem to really pan out well.

I just don’t get how people can watch both these guys play and value DFS over Royce, both on court and in trade.

And I’m not calling you out specifically at all, but it just boggles my mind.

Both are starter level players on a good roster, but mainly awful when on a mediocre to bad team.

But Royce is much more dynamic and the better shooter.

A lot of people share that opinion though.


I just don’t get it.

Also, if even true, I’d do DFS and the 21 for the 10 and Betrans, and Royce and the 22 for say 15.

I think value difference is because DFS is bigger so he's seen as a more versatile defender and he has a few more years on a very good contract.

They are about the same level imo as you're right Royce is more dynamic offensively while I think DFS is the slightly better perimeter defender.

This. I think Royce is better and more skilled. DFS is bigger and capable of eating some minutes as a small ball center, which appeals to teams.

[GTR11]

i find it interesting that not one person here brought the idea bringing CP3 here for our TPE. He is exactly what we need and has build chemistry with Bridges and CamJ. Not going to lie, moving Din for additional pick or two can go a long way for us if we be looking to trade for tier 1A player.

what about for Simmons? would Washington want?

Just my take on Ben
I talked myself into kicking tires one last time on Ben before anything. He rushed his rehab and aggravated it later on, thus made him sit out at the end. The glimpses of elite defense he gave were good enough for me to say, let's see him at 100%.

I mean look at the roster and judge for yourself. Nic been practicing 3pt and elbow shots with development coaches. They also working on his strengths, it gave amazing result last season. CamJ, Bridges, Din pretty much rest of the team willing shooters who can run PnR. If we get to draft Casen Wallace, that kid can spot up shoot at 38% from 3.

Again, Ben needed 18 month full rehab and strengthening before anything. 18 month will be up September or October, meaning he should be good to go. If he fails or his body will give up on him again, than moving expiring contract can be used as an assets and not dead weight.

[GTR11]

i find it interesting that not one person here brought the idea bringing CP3 here for our TPE. He is exactly what we
need and has build chemistry with Bridges and CamJ. Not going to lie, moving Din for additional pick or two can go a long way for us if we be looking to trade for tier 1A player.

cp3 needed more of his deal guaranteed to match beal so i dont think he'd fit within the trade exception. he is going to end up on one of the LA teams either via minimum deal on a buyout or trade.

Lakers emerged as a team to sign FVV for 20+m, LAC has Russ and relationship with Ballmer ain't perfect.

I really doubt LA teams is a sure bet. For vet min he better go to Milwaukee, Denver or Saltics. Much higher chances there.

[Netaman]

this is an interesting analysis of which gms trade with each other most frequently and lo and behold sean marks + kevin pritchard are at the top of the list.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/most-common-nba-trade-partners-1924/

pacers have expressed interest in DFS, would presume that means that's 2 more late firsts possibly available for nets if they want them. pacers own 7, 26, 29 but obviously 7 is unlikely to be an option.

if the other 2 picks get packaged to move up for a lotto, I wouldn't be opposed to adding 26 or 29 or both for DFS. or maybe it's a 3 team where IND gets DFS, a lotto team sends a pick here and gets some other TBD assets from IND/BKL.

[Tha King]

this is an interesting analysis of which gms trade with each other most frequently and lo and behold sean marks + kevin pritchard are at the top of the list.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/most-common-nba-trade-partners-1924/

pacers have expressed interest in DFS, would presume that means that's 2 more late firsts possibly available for nets if they want them. pacers own 7, 26, 29 but obviously 7 is unlikely to be an option.

if the other 2 picks get packaged to move up for a lotto, I wouldn't be opposed to adding 26 or 29 or both for DFS. or maybe it's a 3 team where IND gets DFS, a lotto team sends a pick here and gets some other TBD assets from IND/BKL.

you're right on 7 but I think DFS has more value than 26 and 29 when you factor his contract.

For both DFS and O'Neale I think the team could be well positioned to get premium value. There's always a need for starting caliber 3&D wings and when you look around most of the supply is in Brooklyn. OG is the tier 1 wing but he might not even be available and beyond him the next best are basically all in Brooklyn or are FAs.

[TheNetsFan]

this is an interesting analysis of which gms trade with each other most frequently and lo and behold sean marks + kevin pritchard are at the top of the list.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/most-common-nba-trade-partners-1924/

pacers have expressed interest in DFS, would presume that means that's 2 more late firsts possibly available for nets if they want them. pacers own 7, 26, 29 but obviously 7 is unlikely to be an option.

if the other 2 picks get packaged to move up for a lotto, I wouldn't be opposed to adding 26 or 29 or both for DFS. or maybe it's a 3 team where IND gets DFS, a lotto team sends a pick here and gets some other TBD assets from IND/BKL.

you're right on 7 but I think DFS has more value than 26 and 29 when you factor his contract.

For both DFS and O'Neale I think the team could be well positioned to get premium value. There's always a need for starting caliber 3&D wings and when you look around most of the supply is in Brooklyn. OG is the tier 1 wing but he might not even be available and beyond him the next best are basically all in Brooklyn or are FAs.

Indiana has #32 as well, and some view early 2nds more valuable than the latest firsts. Also don't underestimate the value of Indy's cap space. They don't need to send any salary back, which helps if we're trying to duck the tax or make it a multiple team deal.

[Rastas]

DFS and #51 (possibly a future 2nd) for #26/#29 and #32

Marks needs to find a similar deal for Dinwiddie and any number of this drafts picks for that lotto pick.

[Papi_swav]

How the heck does Boston keep getting these good players without giving up anything it's crazy. So now they have a big 3 with KP. This move might finally put them over the top but I don't see them resigning KP next year so he's pretty much 1 and done up there.

[vincecarter4pres]

How the heck does Boston keep getting these good players without giving up anything it's crazy. So now they have a big 3 with KP. This move might finally put them over the top but I don't see them resigning KP next year so he's pretty much 1 and done up there.

Doubtful he doesn’t extend.

[Papi_swav]

How the heck does Boston keep getting these good players without giving up anything it's crazy. So now they have a big 3 with KP. This move might finally put them over the top but I don't see them resigning KP next year so he's pretty much 1 and done up there.

Doubtful he doesn’t extend.

With the new CBA rules idk how they can afford Tatum/JB/KP all together

EDIT: well now Smart is going to the Grizz which I'm happy he's not on the Celtics anymore. Tyus Jones going to the Wiz for nothing, maybe we can try to swoop in and steal him from them.

[Marvin Martian]

If we wanted Jones, we would have gotten him already. Marks already having a bad offseason

[vincecarter4pres]

If we wanted Jones, we would have gotten him already. Marks already having a bad offseason

Well I guess by that logic we didn’t want him. Not sure how Marks is always having a bad offseason?

[vincecarter4pres]

How the heck does Boston keep getting these good players without giving up anything it's crazy. So now they have a big 3 with KP. This move might finally put them over the top but I don't see them resigning KP next year so he's pretty much 1 and done up there.

Doubtful he doesn’t extend.

With the new CBA rules idk how they can afford Tatum/JB/KP all together

EDIT: well now Smart is going to the Grizz which I'm happy he's not on the Celtics anymore. Tyus Jones going to the Wiz for nothing, maybe we can try to swoop in and steal him from them.

None of that stuff kicks in until July and most of the penalties don’t begin until next summer, teams are trying to abuse loopholes while they still can.

[ecuhus1981]

i find it interesting that not one person here brought the idea bringing CP3 here for our TPE. He is exactly what we need and has build chemistry with Bridges and CamJ. Not going to lie, moving Din for additional pick or two can go a long way for us if we be looking to trade for tier 1A player.

TBH, I'd be up for bringing CP3 here, IF we can wash some unsavory contracts and maneuever some draft picks in the process. We might be able to save the Beal deal and enrich ourselves in the process. I think he prefers LA, but I'm not sure LA prefers him. And he has a prior relationship with the Twins and the Kardashians, so he's destined to be a Net.

[Riconet]

what about for Simmons? would Washington want?

This is a great idea. The Wizards have traded their top 2 assets and not received a single FRP, although they now have a ton of cap space. The Nets have a bunch of FRPs. Maybe they can get the Wizards to take Simmons for just a single FRP.

[Netaman]

here's a deal that combines a few different rumors:

1. obviously mavs #10 is on the block for veteran help, if they are bringing back kyrie adding 3+d in the front court would probably be the best use of that veteran help.

2. hawks want to cut $ and move up in the draft, supposedly willing to trade collins or murray to do it.

3. we know nets want to move up and are dangling both dfs/royce. murray is an interesting new twist that i think is worth giving up the philly pick. they still have enough assets to go after lillard at a later date if they choose (and aren't engaging now).



Murray gives them another defensive pest that will upgrade dinwiddie on the point and fits the age of the existing group. McGee is filler but also a functional backup C.

at #15 maybe the nets are in play for Lively or Coulibaly or Wallace or Bufkin whoever it is they are targeting to move up for.

At #22 they can maybe grab Hawkins or Jackson or the Jaquez (or Podz, or Prosper, or Whitehead, or whoever).

plenty of expiring salary left to make additional moves as the offseason moves along (dinwiddie, harris, patty). i think they'd be under apron even after extending cam j, so i think they'd have use of the TPMLE if they wanted to.

[TheNetsFan]

here's a deal that combines a few different rumors:

1. obviously mavs #10 is on the block for veteran help, if they are bringing back kyrie adding 3+d in the front court would probably be the best use of that veteran help.

2. hawks want to cut $ and move up in the draft, supposedly willing to trade collins or murray to do it.

3. we know nets want to move up and are dangling both dfs/royce. murray is an interesting new twist that i think is worth giving up the philly pick. they still have enough assets to go after lillard at a later date if they choose (and aren't engaging now).



Murray gives them another defensive pest that will upgrade dinwiddie on the point and fits the age of the existing group. McGee is filler but also a functional backup C.

at #15 maybe the nets are in play for Lively or Coulibaly or Wallace or Bufkin whoever it is they are targeting to move up for.

At #22 they can maybe grab Hawkins or Jackson or the Jaquez (or Podz, or Prosper, or Whitehead, or whoever).

plenty of expiring salary left to make additional moves as the offseason moves along (dinwiddie, harris, patty). i think they'd be under apron even after extending cam j, so i think they'd have use of the TPMLE if they wanted to.

Hawks are getting hosed, giving up what are probably the second, third and fourth best assets in the deal.